Topic: Who built the Moon?
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Sun 06/17/12 09:16 PM
The enigma of the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcqtsrOBi2U



HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 03:00 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Tue 06/19/12 03:05 AM
I can't comprehend that educated adults actually fall for this unscientific gibberish.

How does the QUT study support your rather unorthodox hypothesis? Notwithstanding that the soil samples originate from the Apollo missions that supposedly never happened.

Methinks you are winding people up with this silliness.

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/19/12 04:17 AM

I can't comprehend that educated adults actually fall for this unscientific gibberish.

How does the QUT study support your rather unorthodox hypothesis? Notwithstanding that the soil samples originate from the Apollo missions that supposedly never happened.

Methinks you are winding people up with this silliness.


So, you noticed a pattern?:wink:

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/19/12 06:40 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 06/19/12 06:41 AM

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Tue 06/19/12 08:34 AM
That's no moon. It's a space station.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 06/19/12 08:40 AM

That's no moon. It's a space station.
It's the only thing i could think of to support JBs theory of a hollow metal moon...laugh drinker

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 10:48 AM

I can't comprehend that educated adults actually fall for this unscientific gibberish.

How does the QUT study support your rather unorthodox hypothesis? Notwithstanding that the soil samples originate from the Apollo missions that supposedly never happened.

Methinks you are winding people up with this silliness.


some people like to get attention by spreading obvious lies and half truths, just to try to talk/argue with someone, anyone...

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Tue 06/19/12 11:32 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 06/19/12 11:32 AM
First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.


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Tue 06/19/12 11:35 AM
If you are interested in exploring possibilities, I tell you about a book that someone took the time to write, or I link to an interesting video.

If you are not interested in exploring possibilities and are dead set in your personal perception of reality then you could just stay out of my threads with your personal insults.




mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 11:35 AM

First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.




i was talking about you thinking man did not land on the moon, what 7 or 8 times?... i like the original topic, and would like to learn more, but i can't deal with the off topic non sense about nasa lying about putting men on the moon....

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Tue 06/19/12 11:36 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 06/19/12 11:39 AM


First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.




i was talking about you thinking man did not land on the moon, what 7 or 8 times?... i like the original topic, and would like to learn more, but i can't deal with the off topic non sense about nasa lying about putting men on the moon....



I don't really know if man landed on the moon. I know that the moon videos looked really faked.

If man did go to the moon, its possible they did that and also made fake videos.

Maybe they went to the moon in a top secret alien craft and had to cover that up. laugh laugh

So they had to fake the videos of their moon trip. In any case, you can see the wires attached to them when they jumped up, and there are two different light sources on the videos indicating that they were faked.

So which is it? What do the fake videos mean? Did we go to the moon in some alien space craft and then fake our own supposed trip?


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Tue 06/19/12 11:40 AM
OR can you present evidence that the NASA moon videos that appear to be faked, were faked by a faker trying to make it look like they were faked.

Seems like a lot of trouble to go through.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 12:23 PM



First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.




i was talking about you thinking man did not land on the moon, what 7 or 8 times?... i like the original topic, and would like to learn more, but i can't deal with the off topic non sense about nasa lying about putting men on the moon....



I don't really know if man landed on the moon. I know that the moon videos looked really faked.

If man did go to the moon, its possible they did that and also made fake videos.

Maybe they went to the moon in a top secret alien craft and had to cover that up. laugh laugh

So they had to fake the videos of their moon trip. In any case, you can see the wires attached to them when they jumped up, and there are two different light sources on the videos indicating that they were faked.

So which is it? What do the fake videos mean? Did we go to the moon in some alien space craft and then fake our own supposed trip?




they don't look faked to me... what exactly are you talking about? and this is the last post on the off topic comments you're goading me into, if you wanna talk about the moon being hollow, then we can talk, but not about this crap your trying to get attention with....

no photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:33 PM




First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.




i was talking about you thinking man did not land on the moon, what 7 or 8 times?... i like the original topic, and would like to learn more, but i can't deal with the off topic non sense about nasa lying about putting men on the moon....



I don't really know if man landed on the moon. I know that the moon videos looked really faked.

If man did go to the moon, its possible they did that and also made fake videos.

Maybe they went to the moon in a top secret alien craft and had to cover that up. laugh laugh

So they had to fake the videos of their moon trip. In any case, you can see the wires attached to them when they jumped up, and there are two different light sources on the videos indicating that they were faked.

So which is it? What do the fake videos mean? Did we go to the moon in some alien space craft and then fake our own supposed trip?




they don't look faked to me... what exactly are you talking about? and this is the last post on the off topic comments you're goading me into, if you wanna talk about the moon being hollow, then we can talk, but not about this crap your trying to get attention with....



I don't want your attention so get over yourself.

If you haven't looked into the fake looking moon videos and seen where you can see the wires and the double shadows and all the other stuff, then don't ask me to explain it for you.

Plus, there were no stars in the sky. That would have been a dead giveaway.


mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 02:07 PM





First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.

I always consider all possibilities.

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.

This is a strange and enormous universe.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.




i was talking about you thinking man did not land on the moon, what 7 or 8 times?... i like the original topic, and would like to learn more, but i can't deal with the off topic non sense about nasa lying about putting men on the moon....



I don't really know if man landed on the moon. I know that the moon videos looked really faked.

If man did go to the moon, its possible they did that and also made fake videos.

Maybe they went to the moon in a top secret alien craft and had to cover that up. laugh laugh

So they had to fake the videos of their moon trip. In any case, you can see the wires attached to them when they jumped up, and there are two different light sources on the videos indicating that they were faked.

So which is it? What do the fake videos mean? Did we go to the moon in some alien space craft and then fake our own supposed trip?




they don't look faked to me... what exactly are you talking about? and this is the last post on the off topic comments you're goading me into, if you wanna talk about the moon being hollow, then we can talk, but not about this crap your trying to get attention with....



I don't want your attention so get over yourself.

If you haven't looked into the fake looking moon videos and seen where you can see the wires and the double shadows and all the other stuff, then don't ask me to explain it for you.

Plus, there were no stars in the sky. That would have been a dead giveaway.




when did i ask for your explanations? i don't care about that crap, your spreading lies... are we going to talk about that moon being hollow, or are you just going to talk about irrelevant, off topic ignorance?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 02:09 PM
from wiki:
The Hollow Moon theory is a pseudoscientific hypothesis proposing that Earth's Moon is either wholly hollow or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. No scientific evidence exists to support the idea.

The concept is related to or derived from the better-known Hollow Earth theory, and was an infrequent but recurring plot device in pre-spaceflight science fiction.


Two versions

The Hollow Moon theory never gained enough popularity for any major quasi-scientific hypothesis attempting to rationalize it to become notable. Modern Hollow Moon adherents can however be broadly grouped in two major camps:[citation needed]

the Moon's formation process produced a hollow sphere through natural means. Details vary widely; the proposed mechanism is usually an undefined or pseudoscentific factor in accretion-disk dynamics. Some proponents of this view maintain that the Moon is not exceptional, but that all planetary bodies are hollow.
the Moon's hollowness stems from its being an artifact. This view (the "Spaceship Moon Theory") usually correlates with other beliefs such as UFOs or ancient astronauts.

The scientific community considers both sub-theories to be entirely unsupported by evidence.
Scientific perspective

Mainstream scientific opinion on the internal structure of the Moon overwhelmingly supports a solid internal structure with a thin crust, an extensive mantle and a small denser core.[1][2] This is based on:

Seismic observations. Besides Earth, the Moon is the only planetary body with a seismic observation network in place. Analysis of lunar seismic data have helped constrain the thickness of the crust (~45 km)[3] and mantle, as well as the core radius (~350 km).[4][5]
Moment of inertia parameters. For the Moon, moment of inertia parameters have demonstrated that the core is ~1.4% of the total mass.[6] One such parameter, the normalized polar moment of inertia, is 0.393+/-0.001.[6][7] This is very close to the value for a solid object with radially constant density, which would be 0.4 (for comparison, Earth's value is 0.33). The normalized polar moment of inertia for a hollow Moon would have a higher value, closer to 0.67. In other words, the moment of inertia parameters indicate that the core of the Moon is both dense and small, with the rest of the Moon consisting of material with nearly-constant density.
Fine-scale variation (e.g., variation along the orbit of the Lunar Prospector orbiter) of the lunar gravitational field, which is consistent with geologic processes involving a crust, mantle, and core.[6]

The large-scale gravitational field of the Moon, however, is unaffected by the internal distribution of mass if the internal density is assumed to vary only radially. For example, had the Moon been replaced with a point object of identical mass, the current gravitational field would continue to exist at distances greater than the ~1700 km[8] lunar radius. This can be derived directly for a spherically symmetric Moon by applying the integral form[9] of Gauss's law. Therefore, the large-scale gravitational field of the Moon does not convey any information about the internal radial distribution of mass. Hollow Moon proponents would, however, have to account for the incredible density of the Moon's crust if it were in fact hollow. As gravitational pull is determined by mass, a hollow moon would require an inordinately dense crust to achieve observed gravitational values.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 02:21 PM
11 things about the moon that hasn't been explained...
the list was long, so i just posted the site...

http://home1.gte.net/poofalow/moon11.htm

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 06/19/12 02:45 PM

from wiki:
The Hollow Moon theory is a pseudoscientific hypothesis proposing that Earth's Moon is either wholly hollow or otherwise contains a substantial interior space. No scientific evidence exists to support the idea.

The concept is related to or derived from the better-known Hollow Earth theory, and was an infrequent but recurring plot device in pre-spaceflight science fiction.


Two versions

The Hollow Moon theory never gained enough popularity for any major quasi-scientific hypothesis attempting to rationalize it to become notable. Modern Hollow Moon adherents can however be broadly grouped in two major camps:[citation needed]

the Moon's formation process produced a hollow sphere through natural means. Details vary widely; the proposed mechanism is usually an undefined or pseudoscentific factor in accretion-disk dynamics. Some proponents of this view maintain that the Moon is not exceptional, but that all planetary bodies are hollow.
the Moon's hollowness stems from its being an artifact. This view (the "Spaceship Moon Theory") usually correlates with other beliefs such as UFOs or ancient astronauts.

The scientific community considers both sub-theories to be entirely unsupported by evidence.
Scientific perspective

Mainstream scientific opinion on the internal structure of the Moon overwhelmingly supports a solid internal structure with a thin crust, an extensive mantle and a small denser core.[1][2] This is based on:

Seismic observations. Besides Earth, the Moon is the only planetary body with a seismic observation network in place. Analysis of lunar seismic data have helped constrain the thickness of the crust (~45 km)[3] and mantle, as well as the core radius (~350 km).[4][5]
Moment of inertia parameters. For the Moon, moment of inertia parameters have demonstrated that the core is ~1.4% of the total mass.[6] One such parameter, the normalized polar moment of inertia, is 0.393+/-0.001.[6][7] This is very close to the value for a solid object with radially constant density, which would be 0.4 (for comparison, Earth's value is 0.33). The normalized polar moment of inertia for a hollow Moon would have a higher value, closer to 0.67. In other words, the moment of inertia parameters indicate that the core of the Moon is both dense and small, with the rest of the Moon consisting of material with nearly-constant density.
Fine-scale variation (e.g., variation along the orbit of the Lunar Prospector orbiter) of the lunar gravitational field, which is consistent with geologic processes involving a crust, mantle, and core.[6]

The large-scale gravitational field of the Moon, however, is unaffected by the internal distribution of mass if the internal density is assumed to vary only radially. For example, had the Moon been replaced with a point object of identical mass, the current gravitational field would continue to exist at distances greater than the ~1700 km[8] lunar radius. This can be derived directly for a spherically symmetric Moon by applying the integral form[9] of Gauss's law. Therefore, the large-scale gravitational field of the Moon does not convey any information about the internal radial distribution of mass. Hollow Moon proponents would, however, have to account for the incredible density of the Moon's crust if it were in fact hollow. As gravitational pull is determined by mass, a hollow moon would require an inordinately dense crust to achieve observed gravitational values.


The gravitational pull of the Moon contradicts any claim
that the Moon is hollow.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 05:24 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Tue 06/19/12 05:25 PM

First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.


Why bother then?

I always consider all possibilities.


Even if the so-called 'possibilities' are ridiculous?

You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.


We have, it is called 'education'.

This is a strange and enormous universe.


True.

The Moon has some very strange things going on there and I am not the only person who thinks so.


There is nothing 'going on' on the moon, it is lifeless. Many people believed the Raelians, but they still died.



no photo
Tue 06/19/12 07:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 06/19/12 07:21 PM


First of all it is NOT MY "hypothesis."

You should not assume that just because I post an IDEA that I believe it.


Why bother then?


Because the conversations on these forums are so mind blowingly boring and dull.




I always consider all possibilities.


Even if the so-called 'possibilities' are ridiculous?


Yes, because once you start dismissing possibilities your brain shrinks.laugh laugh laugh




You people need to open your MINDS JUST A LITTLE and consider the possibilities.


We have, it is called 'education'.



rofl rofl rofl rofl