Topic: Terrifying Similiarities Between Obama And Hitler
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Mon 09/03/12 02:40 PM

BANKERS.... OR THE RICH ELITE WHO THINK THEY ARE SUPREME BEINGS. THE ILLUMINATI.

We should kill all of the Illuminati and impose our own oppressive, totalitarian regime.:smile:



They were all killed in the late 1700's. They were merely a group of free thinkers.

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Mon 09/03/12 04:35 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 09/03/12 04:36 PM


BANKERS.... OR THE RICH ELITE WHO THINK THEY ARE SUPREME BEINGS. THE ILLUMINATI.

We should kill all of the Illuminati and impose our own oppressive, totalitarian regime.:smile:



They were all killed in the late 1700's. They were merely a group of free thinkers.


laugh laugh laugh

Unfortunately, the rich Elite and the bankers are still here and still controlling the world, and yes, they think they are supreme beings and probably call themselves the Illuminated ones.


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Mon 09/03/12 05:58 PM
We have us a classic 'Godwin'. laugh

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Mon 09/03/12 06:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 09/03/12 06:05 PM
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distasteful

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Mon 09/03/12 06:10 PM











OK, I've got to say it, this post is simply despicable. What happened to a sense of proportion? I really can't believe the number of people who have responded to this without criticizing the basic assertion.

NO. Obama is NOTHING like Hitler, never will be, never could be.




I think the basic premise is

person A was 'bad'
person A had a, b, c qualities

a, b, c qualities are bad


anyone with a, b, c qualities is likely bad...



,,,,its a false premise for certain

but we all have things in common even though we are all individually unique

my response is ....so what!


God is brilliant, the devil is brilliant
God knows the bible the devil knows the bible
God works in our lives the devil works in our lives


politicans can be corrupt, citizens can be corrupt
politicans can be greedy, people can be greedy,,


I mean, seriously, we should be in constant fear of EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY (and I realize there are some people who are)

if all it takes is for similarities to be found between them

so, tell me how this is anyway false? did someone lie about what this article says? can you disprove anything about this article?




who said it was false? or a lie?

what I said was 'SO WHAT!'



the 'truth' can mislead even better than a lie


thats what fuels 'conspiracies' often times is the truth factor and the LEAP IN OPINIONS and assumptions people take off of random 'truths'


",,,,its a false premise for certain " your words...and i think the words "so what" have been said before the start of many, many wars...how many people said "so what" when hitler was doing his thing? How many people said "so what" before the great depression in the 20's, and in the 2000's? how many people are saying "so what" now?




from wordiq.com

A false premise is an erroneous proposition on which a statement is made or conclusion is drawn. Since the premise (proposition, assumption, suggestion, or idea from which a conclusion is drawn)is not correct or not fully correct, the conclusion drawn may be in error. Since logical arguments always require a core assumption, that specific core assumption (or set of assumptions) must be valid in order to draw a valid conclusion, or to correctly link a cause and its effect. The general issue is causal relationships.

For instance, the statement, "Anyone who kills another person must be insane," presumes there is no valid reason to kill, and that all killing is linked with insanity.

Killing exists as a component of human behavior. (premise)

Killing is insane. (false premise)

Therefore insanity is established in people who kill. (conclusion)

Given this premise, all armies at war would be insane (as would their generals and leaders), the death penalty would be insane, mercy killings would be insane, discontinuation of heart-lung function support on a 'brain-dead' person could be insane, defending one's own life or the lives of family or others would be insane, and so on. By extension, then, anyone killing another would naturally be subject only to an insanity plea in court, and never to regular prison for a murder they committed.

In reality, however, many of these points are debatable and might fall into the realm of a false premise.


In this thread

a 'terrifying' man had a, b, c, characteristics (premise)

characteristics a, b, and c are 'terrifying' (false premise)

therefore anyone with a, b, c characteristics is 'terrifying' (conclusion)




i don't what all of this irrelevant talk means, but someone made a comparison... and the similarities are there, whether you like it or not....



similarities were not the issue

the issue was the characterization that they were 'terrifying'


it would be like finding some random similarities between Jesus and Obama and calling them 'supernatural'


No, in some cases the exact same techniques are being used for the exact same purpose. Some of the exact same results are occurring. You are trying to make an apples to oranges comparison of what is an apples to apples event. They are propaganda techniques used to sway the people in a national political campaign. The aftermath of both was an increase on political power and violations of people's rights.

A difference is that in Hitler's case, the people gave him the power. In Obama's case, he is just taking the power by violating the constitution. Due process is falling by the wayside.



really?

so what was Hitler and Obamas common purpose?

obviously it isnt to create a blonde haired blue eyed race,,,,lol

what are the similar results?

any american demographic been rounded up and gassed lately?

and what power has Obama 'taken'?


more rhetoric with no backup,,,,as inane as trying to make strengths like oratory skills seem 'terrifying'





As I stated and you ignored ... due process. Obama is now murdering American citizens without due process. There is a list of Constitutional violations that is all over the news in different parts. You are working hard to avoid the direct comparisons.

Gassing citizens? The straw argument raises it's head once again. Do I need to post the definition of a straw man argument again?

The comparison has been clearly stated more than once that this thread is about the techniques used to rise to power, not the atrocities committed during WWII.


i really didn't see the need to point that out to her any more... she knows that everything in that article was true and to the point, no matter how much she doesn't want to see... Hitler was in power for about 6 years before he started gassing people, and his rise to that point is very similar to what is happening now... I'm not saying thats what obama wants, but i would not be surprised if a false flag event happens before the elections to cancel them...

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Mon 09/03/12 06:13 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 09/03/12 06:14 PM
No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?

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Mon 09/03/12 06:22 PM

No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?



SMH!!

really

OBAMA has a hit list?


good grief

,,'hit lists' are not something that are NEW under OBAMA

because the information has been more TRANSPARENT, people keep assuming its new or some exclusive 'obama' plan



mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/03/12 06:50 PM


No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?



SMH!!

really

OBAMA has a hit list?


good grief

,,'hit lists' are not something that are NEW under OBAMA

because the information has been more TRANSPARENT, people keep assuming its new or some exclusive 'obama' plan





he's had the hit list for about 2 years now, and the takes them out with drones... there is nothing "transparent" about the government, if anything, it's more secretive now than ever before... (another obama lie, BTW)

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Mon 09/03/12 06:52 PM



No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?



SMH!!

really

OBAMA has a hit list?


good grief

,,'hit lists' are not something that are NEW under OBAMA

because the information has been more TRANSPARENT, people keep assuming its new or some exclusive 'obama' plan





he's had the hit list for about 2 years now, and the takes them out with drones... there is nothing "transparent" about the government, if anything, it's more secretive now than ever before... (another obama lie, BTW)



any names of all these americans being killed by EXPENSIVE drones rather than by simple snipers?


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Mon 09/03/12 07:07 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 09/03/12 07:08 PM
Statistics
See also: List of Taliban fatality reports in Pakistan
1) US Drone Strike Statistics estimate according to the New America Foundation analysis of Newspaper articles.[2] Year Number of
Attacks Number Killed
Min. Max.
2004 1 4 5
2005 2 6 7
2006 2 23 23
2007 4 56 77
2008 33 274 314
2009 53 369 725
2010 118 607 993
2011 70 378 536
2012 28 162 207
Total 311 1,879 2,887

2) US Drone Strike statistic based on months of research by a team of journalists of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:[3][16]

Total reported killed: 2,520 – 3,240
Civilians reported killed: 482 – 849
Children reported killed: 175
Total reported injured: 1,200 – 1,326
Strikes under the Bush Administration: 52
Strikes under the Obama Administration: 284

Total strikes: 336

US viewpoint

notice how it jumps at 2008...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

also, this is just Pakistan....

feel free to google "people killed by drones" and see the names...

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 07:22 PM

Statistics
See also: List of Taliban fatality reports in Pakistan
1) US Drone Strike Statistics estimate according to the New America Foundation analysis of Newspaper articles.[2] Year Number of
Attacks Number Killed
Min. Max.
2004 1 4 5
2005 2 6 7
2006 2 23 23
2007 4 56 77
2008 33 274 314
2009 53 369 725
2010 118 607 993
2011 70 378 536
2012 28 162 207
Total 311 1,879 2,887

2) US Drone Strike statistic based on months of research by a team of journalists of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:[3][16]

Total reported killed: 2,520 – 3,240
Civilians reported killed: 482 – 849
Children reported killed: 175
Total reported injured: 1,200 – 1,326
Strikes under the Bush Administration: 52
Strikes under the Obama Administration: 284

Total strikes: 336

US viewpoint

notice how it jumps at 2008...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

also, this is just Pakistan....

feel free to google "people killed by drones" and see the names...



missing the point

Im asking for the names of americans SINGLED OUT for a drone attack by Obama

these are military strikes going back eight years, with civilians dying in the crossfire, as they always have in military strikes,,,

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Mon 09/03/12 07:24 PM
Edited by esebulldog on Mon 09/03/12 07:25 PM
offtopic
People with Asperger syndrome ("Aspies" as many call themselves) generally have few facial expressions apart from anger or misery. Most have excellent rote memory and musical ability, and become intensely interested in one or two subjects (sometimes to the exclusion of other topics). They may talk at length about a favorite subject or repeat a word or phrase many times. People with Asperger syndrome tend to be "in their own world" and preoccupied with their own agenda.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9675

mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/03/12 10:38 PM


Statistics
See also: List of Taliban fatality reports in Pakistan
1) US Drone Strike Statistics estimate according to the New America Foundation analysis of Newspaper articles.[2] Year Number of
Attacks Number Killed
Min. Max.
2004 1 4 5
2005 2 6 7
2006 2 23 23
2007 4 56 77
2008 33 274 314
2009 53 369 725
2010 118 607 993
2011 70 378 536
2012 28 162 207
Total 311 1,879 2,887

2) US Drone Strike statistic based on months of research by a team of journalists of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:[3][16]

Total reported killed: 2,520 – 3,240
Civilians reported killed: 482 – 849
Children reported killed: 175
Total reported injured: 1,200 – 1,326
Strikes under the Bush Administration: 52
Strikes under the Obama Administration: 284

Total strikes: 336

US viewpoint

notice how it jumps at 2008...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

also, this is just Pakistan....

feel free to google "people killed by drones" and see the names...



missing the point

Im asking for the names of americans SINGLED OUT for a drone attack by Obama

these are military strikes going back eight years, with civilians dying in the crossfire, as they always have in military strikes,,,
look it up, its there...

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 09/04/12 06:45 PM

ill ill

distasteful


Exactly, but someone eventually goes there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

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Tue 09/04/12 07:15 PM


Im asking for the names of americans SINGLED OUT for a drone attack by Obama

these are military strikes going back eight years, with civilians dying in the crossfire, as they always have in military strikes,,,


A drone attack was used to kill Muslim cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki, who was a U.S. citizen by birth.

Here is an excerpt from a New York Times article titled "Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will":

This was the enemy, served up in the latest chart from the intelligence agencies: 15 Qaeda suspects in Yemen with Western ties. The mug shots and brief biographies resembled a high school yearbook layout. Several were Americans. Two were teenagers, including a girl who looked even younger than her 17 years.

President Obama, overseeing the regular Tuesday counterterrorism meeting of two dozen security officials in the White House Situation Room, took a moment to study the faces. It was Jan. 19, 2010, the end of a first year in office punctuated by terrorist plots and culminating in a brush with catastrophe over Detroit on Christmas Day, a reminder that a successful attack could derail his presidency. Yet he faced adversaries without uniforms, often indistinguishable from the civilians around them.

“How old are these people?” he asked, according to two officials present. “If they are starting to use children,” he said of Al Qaeda, “we are moving into a whole different phase.”

It was not a theoretical question: Mr. Obama has placed himself at the helm of a top secret “nominations” process to designate terrorists for kill or capture, of which the capture part has become largely theoretical. He had vowed to align the fight against Al Qaeda with American values; the chart, introducing people whose deaths he might soon be asked to order, underscored just what a moral and legal conundrum this could be.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/04/12 08:02 PM

We have us a classic 'Godwin'. laugh


rofl

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/04/12 08:03 PM


No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?



SMH!!

really

OBAMA has a hit list?


good grief

,,'hit lists' are not something that are NEW under OBAMA

because the information has been more TRANSPARENT, people keep assuming its new or some exclusive 'obama' plan





Actually he does have a kill list.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/04/12 08:09 PM




No Obama does not gas people. But he does have a hit list and he has sent out drones to kill suspected terrorists threats.

got that?

suspected....!

Is it him doing it, or is it the shadow Illuminati government that does not exist?



SMH!!

really

OBAMA has a hit list?


good grief

,,'hit lists' are not something that are NEW under OBAMA

because the information has been more TRANSPARENT, people keep assuming its new or some exclusive 'obama' plan





he's had the hit list for about 2 years now, and the takes them out with drones... there is nothing "transparent" about the government, if anything, it's more secretive now than ever before... (another obama lie, BTW)



any names of all these americans being killed by EXPENSIVE drones rather than by simple snipers?





Anwar Al-Awlaki and Samir ibn Zafar Khan were both American Citizens who were on Obama's Kill List who were also killed by TWO expensive Predator drones.

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/05/12 12:03 AM

offtopic
People with Asperger syndrome ("Aspies" as many call themselves) generally have few facial expressions apart from anger or misery. Most have excellent rote memory and musical ability, and become intensely interested in one or two subjects (sometimes to the exclusion of other topics). They may talk at length about a favorite subject or repeat a word or phrase many times. People with Asperger syndrome tend to be "in their own world" and preoccupied with their own agenda.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9675



interesting information,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/05/12 12:07 AM



Im asking for the names of americans SINGLED OUT for a drone attack by Obama

these are military strikes going back eight years, with civilians dying in the crossfire, as they always have in military strikes,,,


A drone attack was used to kill Muslim cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki, who was a U.S. citizen by birth.

Here is an excerpt from a New York Times article titled "Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will":

This was the enemy, served up in the latest chart from the intelligence agencies: 15 Qaeda suspects in Yemen with Western ties. The mug shots and brief biographies resembled a high school yearbook layout. Several were Americans. Two were teenagers, including a girl who looked even younger than her 17 years.

President Obama, overseeing the regular Tuesday counterterrorism meeting of two dozen security officials in the White House Situation Room, took a moment to study the faces. It was Jan. 19, 2010, the end of a first year in office punctuated by terrorist plots and culminating in a brush with catastrophe over Detroit on Christmas Day, a reminder that a successful attack could derail his presidency. Yet he faced adversaries without uniforms, often indistinguishable from the civilians around them.

“How old are these people?” he asked, according to two officials present. “If they are starting to use children,” he said of Al Qaeda, “we are moving into a whole different phase.”

It was not a theoretical question: Mr. Obama has placed himself at the helm of a top secret “nominations” process to designate terrorists for kill or capture, of which the capture part has become largely theoretical. He had vowed to align the fight against Al Qaeda with American values; the chart, introducing people whose deaths he might soon be asked to order, underscored just what a moral and legal conundrum this could be.




thank you Dodo

I was aware of that although not the name

Im still unclear how that ONE american born (funny how its STRESSED That HE Was born in america,,lol) being killed is anything like millions of people being ROUNDED up and gassed who had done NOTHING against anyone,,,,,