Topic: Gotta love that Texas Death Penalty
Ras427's photo
Thu 10/18/12 06:02 AM

Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.

willing2's photo
Thu 10/18/12 06:04 AM


Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.

Please, get a clue.
In countries where Muslims have the majority, all people are under Shariah Law.

Ras427's photo
Thu 10/18/12 06:28 AM



Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.

Please, get a clue.
In countries where Muslims have the majority, all people are under Shariah Law.
I live in America in where your fear and irrational lack of knowledge is fueling your obviouse lack of knowledge therefore lack of understanding. Your clueless position regarding Sharia law is unAmerican. If Sharia law is a threat according to your logic, then Native American tribal courts on Indian reservations and Rabbinical courts for Jews should be banned along with Catholic Cannon laws, which serve approximately 60 million Catholics in America. Sharia law, Native American tribal courts, Jewish Rabbinical or Jewsish Beth Dins are not designed to replace the judicial system. None are niether a threat nor replace nor can in anyway trump, negate American civil ordinences, or our constitution. Again, get a clue.

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Thu 10/18/12 06:33 AM
Barry has no respect for our constitution.

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Thu 10/18/12 06:44 AM

Barry has no respect for our constitution.

again, more useless banter, Muslim have been practiceing Sharia law for over 60 years in America. And much longer in areas with older Muslim communities such as in Michigan and many areas in Brooklyn NY, where they have been practicing Sharia law for close to a hundred years. All three major religions in America including native Americans practice their form of grievence resolution courts within their communities. All before the present state of your phobia was born. Willy, go get laid dude, it will do you well.

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Thu 10/18/12 06:45 AM
bigsmile

Barry has no respect for our constitution.

again, more useless banter, Muslim have been practiceing Sharia law for over 60 years in America. And much longer in areas with older Muslim communities such as in Michigan and many areas in Brooklyn NY, where they have been practicing Sharia law for close to a hundred years. All three major religions in America including native Americans practice their form of grievence resolution courts within their communities. All before the present state of your phobia was born. Willy, go get laid dude, it will do you well.

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Thu 10/18/12 06:54 AM

Barry has no respect for our constitution.

Now we are back to Obama, the thread is about Texas, and the death penalty. Again, if 300 men were exonarated due to DNA and forensics, and were convicted prior to exoneration, clearly this suggests a huge flaw in integrity, and a obviouse broken judicial system. This also suggests that if you are arrested for a crime you did not commit, you can be found guilty, go to prison and or death row. If that is a good justice system to you, something is wrong with the charactor of this nation. That charactor or lack thereof can not be blamed on Obama.

no photo
Thu 10/18/12 07:39 AM


Barry has no respect for our constitution.

Now we are back to Obama, the thread is about Texas, and the death penalty. Again, if 300 men were exonarated due to DNA and forensics, and were convicted prior to exoneration, clearly this suggests a huge flaw in integrity, and a obviouse broken judicial system. This also suggests that if you are arrested for a crime you did not commit, you can be found guilty, go to prison and or death row. If that is a good justice system to you, something is wrong with the charactor of this nation. That charactor or lack thereof can not be blamed on Obama.

At least the 300 men had the chance to be exonerated under our system. How many are exonerated under muslin law? No system is perfect. Compared to others ours is one the best.

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Thu 10/18/12 09:03 AM



Barry has no respect for our constitution.

Now we are back to Obama, the thread is about Texas, and the death penalty. Again, if 300 men were exonarated due to DNA and forensics, and were convicted prior to exoneration, clearly this suggests a huge flaw in integrity, and a obviouse broken judicial system. This also suggests that if you are arrested for a crime you did not commit, you can be found guilty, go to prison and or death row. If that is a good justice system to you, something is wrong with the charactor of this nation. That charactor or lack thereof can not be blamed on Obama.

At least the 300 men had the chance to be exonerated under our system. How many are exonerated under muslin law? No system is perfect. Compared to others ours is one the best.
As I dont live in a Muslim country, id care less about the laws of others countries, I live in America, and as an American, id prefer expect fairness for all and the implementations of mechanics to insure the no one has to languish in prison waiting to die for a crime that one did not do. By the way, the system that sent innocent people to death row did not give them anything. All those exonerated were helped by private non profit organizations such as the Innocent Project, family and activists. If it were left up to the system, their "i dont care attitude" would have insured their staying in prison, or dying by execution while innocent. If they would have been given a chance, then the Innocent Project wouldnt exist. In fact as I right this, the Jeff Frost show is talking about the Damion Ekles case.

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Thu 10/18/12 10:50 AM




Barry has no respect for our constitution.

Now we are back to Obama, the thread is about Texas, and the death penalty. Again, if 300 men were exonarated due to DNA and forensics, and were convicted prior to exoneration, clearly this suggests a huge flaw in integrity, and a obviouse broken judicial system. This also suggests that if you are arrested for a crime you did not commit, you can be found guilty, go to prison and or death row. If that is a good justice system to you, something is wrong with the charactor of this nation. That charactor or lack thereof can not be blamed on Obama.

At least the 300 men had the chance to be exonerated under our system. How many are exonerated under muslin law? No system is perfect. Compared to others ours is one the best.
As I dont live in a Muslim country, id care less about the laws of others countries, I live in America, and as an American, id prefer expect fairness for all and the implementations of mechanics to insure the no one has to languish in prison waiting to die for a crime that one did not do. By the way, the system that sent innocent people to death row did not give them anything. All those exonerated were helped by private non profit organizations such as the Innocent Project, family and activists. If it were left up to the system, their "i dont care attitude" would have insured their staying in prison, or dying by execution while innocent. If they would have been given a chance, then the Innocent Project wouldnt exist. In fact as I right this, the Jeff Frost show is talking about the Damion Ekles case.

Thank god we live in country that allows an Innocent Project or others like it. I don't think that they have branch offices in Cuba or third world countries.

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Thu 10/18/12 11:55 AM





Barry has no respect for our constitution.

Now we are back to Obama, the thread is about Texas, and the death penalty. Again, if 300 men were exonarated due to DNA and forensics, and were convicted prior to exoneration, clearly this suggests a huge flaw in integrity, and a obviouse broken judicial system. This also suggests that if you are arrested for a crime you did not commit, you can be found guilty, go to prison and or death row. If that is a good justice system to you, something is wrong with the charactor of this nation. That charactor or lack thereof can not be blamed on Obama.

At least the 300 men had the chance to be exonerated under our system. How many are exonerated under muslin law? No system is perfect. Compared to others ours is one the best.
As I dont live in a Muslim country, id care less about the laws of others countries, I live in America, and as an American, id prefer expect fairness for all and the implementations of mechanics to insure the no one has to languish in prison waiting to die for a crime that one did not do. By the way, the system that sent innocent people to death row did not give them anything. All those exonerated were helped by private non profit organizations such as the Innocent Project, family and activists. If it were left up to the system, their "i dont care attitude" would have insured their staying in prison, or dying by execution while innocent. If they would have been given a chance, then the Innocent Project wouldnt exist. In fact as I right this, the Jeff Frost show is talking about the Damion Ekles case.

Thank god we live in country that allows an Innocent Project or others like it. I don't think that they have branch offices in Cuba or third world countries.
Actualy Many do, Cuba has a group known as Familias para Justicia, (families towards justice) an advocy group for the release of political prisoners. Thay claim a success rate unlike the past where prisoners under Castros prisons had little legal resources or representation. Today they have more groups due to their commitment for justice. This is not a reflection of the Cuban goverment, the commitment is from the people. Many countries are fighting for rights, as recently witnessed in many countries around the world. The Innocent Project does not exist because of them being allowed to exist, they exist because of a moral guidence to achieve justice that the justice system has failed to provide. This commitment is not limited to our country. Brazil, Paraguey, Uruguay are famous for the inadecuate judical justice system, but they also have made great strides in recent years. Dispite this fact, im more concerned about our system, that left unchecked, can easily revert back or just like other nations still stuck in time.

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Thu 10/18/12 12:13 PM


Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!

metalwing's photo
Thu 10/18/12 12:24 PM



Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
Maybe we should just ship all our murderers over to Saudi Arabia for trial and punishment?:smile:

Ras427's photo
Thu 10/18/12 01:44 PM



Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
You said it yourself, in other countries. Sharia law in America is among Muslims helloooooo, and among Muslims it is primarily for community grievence resolution. What part can you understand, really simple. It is not, nor ever be law of the land in America, how dence can you be?

Ras427's photo
Thu 10/18/12 01:51 PM




Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
Maybe we should just ship all our murderers over to Saudi Arabia for trial and punishment?:smile:
more nonsence then the one before, if it was not for family members, activists groups and the Innocent Project 300 innocent men would have needed going to Saudi Arabia for injustice, it happened to them here. And if it were not for DNA, they would be dead, now imagin how many were actually innocent before the introduction of DNA evidence who died innocently. Saudi Arabia? Its happening here. Wow, some people are just lacking in comprehension or worst.

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Thu 10/18/12 01:52 PM




Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
You said it yourself, in other countries. Sharia law in America is among Muslims helloooooo, and among Muslims it is primarily for community grievence resolution. What part can you understand, really simple. It is not, nor ever be law of the land in America, how dence can you be?

The more politically powerful the Muslims get in the US, the more they will force their will on us or my kids and grandkids.

Let me ask.

When the Muslims say, go out and kill anyone who will not convert, who here will join them to behead folks?

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Thu 10/18/12 02:07 PM
Years ago, PROFESSIONAL crooks I happened to know, told me the ONLY thing they feared was the death penalty. That was back when it was used.

Now we keep all these people in jail for extended years. Feeding them, paying for their appeals, medical care, etc. WASTING MILLIONS of dollars, that could be spent in much better ways. I am a FIRM supporter of the death penalty & think it should be used in a more PROMPT manner & more often.

As far as mistakes; show me a time when a few have NOT suffered forthe benefit of the whole.

OPINION.

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Thu 10/18/12 02:20 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 10/18/12 02:31 PM




Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
You said it yourself, in other countries. Sharia law in America is among Muslims helloooooo, and among Muslims it is primarily for community grievence resolution. What part can you understand, really simple. It is not, nor ever be law of the land in America, how dence can you be?
no need getting testy!
I just clarified it,so there is NO misunderstanding!

And that little word ought to contain an "S",BTW!laugh

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Thu 10/18/12 02:25 PM
Edited by Ras427 on Thu 10/18/12 02:33 PM

Years ago, PROFESSIONAL crooks I happened to know, told me the ONLY thing they feared was the death penalty. That was back when it was used.

Now we keep all these people in jail for extended years. Feeding them, paying for their appeals, medical care, etc. WASTING MILLIONS of dollars, that could be spent in much better ways. I am a FIRM supporter of the death penalty & think it should be used in a more PROMPT manner & more often.

As far as mistakes; show me a time when a few have NOT suffered forthe benefit of the whole.

OPINION.
Those professional crooks dont fear it enough to keep them from being crooks. Im not a crook, but I fear not the death penalty, what I fear more is being charged of a crime while being innocent and having you or anyone like you on my jury deciding my fate in a PROMPT and more often manner. As for the few who have suffered for the benefit of the whole, I think we should strive to do better then those in the past. And of course if you or someone you love, like a foolish son, reletive or friend accused of a crime and innocent, I highly doubt you would promote such nonsence. As for OPINIONS,they are like b**t holes, we all have one, only some are clean, some are not.

Ras427's photo
Thu 10/18/12 02:29 PM
huh





Our justice system is pretty damned good.

We will be, er, could be under Shariah Law where the death penalty is often administered without a trial.
wrong, our justice is pretty damned broken if those trials are resulting in innocent people going to prison or worst being executed. 300 exonerations does not sound like a damn good justice system to me nor anyone who were exonerated. What is worst is the judicial system have done little in way of exenorating nor implimenting methods to prevent wrongfull incarceration or convictions. The Innocent Project organization has along with activist groups are responcable for helping innocent people get true justice. Finally Sharia law would be just like Rabbinical courts common in America and the Catholic churches Cannon laws followed by most Catholics. None of the above could nor threaten current constitutional law. Please get a clue.
yep,but not as the Law of The Land!
Quite a difference!
You can also see the difference in Countries where Shariah IS the Law of the Land!
You said it yourself, in other countries. Sharia law in America is among Muslims helloooooo, and among Muslims it is primarily for community grievence resolution. What part can you understand, really simple. It is not, nor ever be law of the land in America, how dence can you be?
no use getting testy!
I just clarified it,so there is NO misunderstanding!

And that little word ought to contain an "S",BTW!laugh
Oh alright, ill be less testy,:banana: