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Topic: Unconstitutional 'Czars' ... a Dictatorship?
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Tue 12/04/12 07:04 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Tue 12/04/12 07:16 PM
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President Obama's Unconstitutional 'Czars'
9-9-9

(LPAC) -- Although several Presidents have had "czars" - a special advisor to the President on a particular issue - President Obama, in a mere 8 months, has far exceeded the use of czars by any previous Administration, having appointed at least 32, the latest being Lazard's Ron Bloom as "manufacturing" czar. 25 new czar positions were created by Obama.

A "czar" is not subject to the Appointments Clause of the federal Constitution, under which officers of the United States are subject to Senate confirmation ("advice and consent"), and which applies to all Cabinet secretaries and many subordinate positions. The Constitution allows "inferior officers" to be appointed by the President or Department heads - but a czar who is more powerful that a Cabinet secretary, or who has more access to the President than a Cabinet secretary, hardly qualifies as an "inferior" officer.

As Fox News has pointed out, one of the early czars was President Nixon's National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, who often bypassed both the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State.

Czars also enable a President to evade Congressional oversight, since a President can assert "executive privilege" in the face of a request, or even a subpoena, for testimony from his advisors.

As such, the use of czars is a threat to the system of checks & balances enshrined in the federal Constitution, and is thus a step toward the tyranny which our Founding Fathers sought to prevent. And it is also a direct repudiation of Obama's own campaign promises for a more transparent and accountable government.

PRESIDENTIAL "CZARS" [* = position newly created by Obama]

*Afghanistan Czar: Richard Holbrooke

AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley

*Auto recovery Czar: Ed Montgomery

*Border Czar: Alan Bersin

*California Water Czar: David J. Hayes

*Car Czar: Ron Bloom (now Manufacturing Czar)

*Central Region Czar: Dennis Ross

*Domestic Violence Czar: Lynn Rosenthal

Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske

Economic Czar: Paul Volcker

*Energy and Environment Czar: Carol Browner

Faith-Based Czar: Joshua DuBois

*Great Lakes Czar: Cameron Davis

*Green Jobs Czar: Van Jones (resigned 9/6)

*Guantanamo Closure Czar: Daniel Fried

Health Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle

*Information Czar: Vivek Kundra

*International Climate Czar: Todd Stern

Intelligence Czar: Dennis Blair

*Manufacturing Czar: Ron Bloom

*Mideast Peace Czar: George Mitchell

*Pay Czar: Kenneth Feinberg

Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein

*Science Czar: John Holdren

*Stimulus Accountability Czar: Earl Devaney

*Sudan Czar: J. Scott Gration

*TARP Czar: Herb Allison

*Terrorism Czar: John Brennan

*Technology Czar: Aneesh Chopra

*Urban Affairs Czar: Adolfo Carrion Jr.

*Weapons Czar: Ashton Carter

*WMD Policy Czar: Gary Samore


RELEVANT QUOTATIONS

U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 2: "He (the President) shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consults, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein provided for, and which shall be established by law; but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments."

Rep. Mike Pence: "The Constitution of the United States vests Congress with the responsibility to advise and consent in the appointment of high ranking officials by the President. To date, President Obama has appointed more than thirty individuals to czar positions within his Administration without permitting the Congress or the American people to properly examine their backgrounds or public records."

Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV): "The rapid and easy accumulation of power by White House staff can threaten the constitutional system of checks and balances," wrote Byrd. "At the worst, White House staff have taken direction and control of programmatic areas that are the statutory responsibility of Senate confirmed officials."



http://rense.com/general87/presoz.htm




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Tue 12/04/12 07:52 PM
Pretty scary.

lilott's photo
Tue 12/04/12 08:13 PM
He's really bent on destroying this country.

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Tue 12/04/12 08:18 PM

He's really bent on destroying this country.


I think your are right. He wants to destroy it and then rebuilt it to suit the New World Order Banksters.

Bravalady's photo
Tue 12/04/12 11:39 PM
You do realize that "czar" is a word used by the media and has no actual meaning in USA politics? Right?

The first person on your list, Richard Holbrooke, has been dead for 2 years so I don't think he's very dangerous at this point. I didn't check everyone on your list, but the ones I did check were identified as directors of agencies. These are appointments made by the President just like every other President before him. This "czar" stuff is just silly.

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Wed 12/05/12 06:05 AM

You do realize that "czar" is a word used by the media and has no actual meaning in USA politics? Right?

The first person on your list, Richard Holbrooke, has been dead for 2 years so I don't think he's very dangerous at this point. I didn't check everyone on your list, but the ones I did check were identified as directors of agencies. These are appointments made by the President just like every other President before him. This "czar" stuff is just silly.


Iyho!

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Wed 12/05/12 06:20 AM
They just some of satan's, er, I mean, Barry's special little helpers with power to bypass the chain of command.
They onl answer the the supreme one.

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Wed 12/05/12 07:23 AM

You do realize that "czar" is a word used by the media and has no actual meaning in USA politics? Right?


czar (n, potentate )
monarch, ruler, leader, emperor, sovereign, czar, king, queen, empress
......
czar (n,mogul)

tycoon, entrepreneur, magnate, industrialist, kingpin (informal), dynast, power, czar, big shot (informal)


The first person on your list, Richard Holbrooke, has been dead for 2 years so I don't think he's very dangerous at this point. I didn't check everyone on your list, but the ones I did check were identified as directors of agencies. These are appointments made by the President just like every other President before him. This "czar" stuff is just silly.

the op was an article dated 9-9-9

Afghanistan Czar: Marc Grossman became
Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan (AFPAK)
Appointed in February 2011 after death of Richard Holbrooke,former Afghanistan Czar

(I thought this "czar" stuff was silly as well. But this is no game, their roles were issued and received seriously.)

TBRich's photo
Wed 12/05/12 07:29 AM
The first czar was appointed by Richard Nixon and it came into popular use under Ronald Reagan; I can't believe that you guys are disparaging the legacy of these two icons of the conservative movement! LOL!

Bravalady's photo
Wed 12/05/12 08:04 AM
Psst, TBR, neither Nixon nor Reagan would stand a chance at getting through the Repub primaries today.

Bravalady's photo
Wed 12/05/12 08:04 AM


You do realize that "czar" is a word used by the media and has no actual meaning in USA politics? Right?

The first person on your list, Richard Holbrooke, has been dead for 2 years so I don't think he's very dangerous at this point. I didn't check everyone on your list, but the ones I did check were identified as directors of agencies. These are appointments made by the President just like every other President before him. This "czar" stuff is just silly.


Iyho!


What does that mean?

Bravalady's photo
Wed 12/05/12 08:16 AM


You do realize that "czar" is a word used by the media and has no actual meaning in USA politics? Right?


czar (n, potentate )
monarch, ruler, leader, emperor, sovereign, czar, king, queen, empress
......
czar (n,mogul)

tycoon, entrepreneur, magnate, industrialist, kingpin (informal), dynast, power, czar, big shot (informal)


The first person on your list, Richard Holbrooke, has been dead for 2 years so I don't think he's very dangerous at this point. I didn't check everyone on your list, but the ones I did check were identified as directors of agencies. These are appointments made by the President just like every other President before him. This "czar" stuff is just silly.

the op was an article dated 9-9-9

Afghanistan Czar: Marc Grossman became
Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan (AFPAK)
Appointed in February 2011 after death of Richard Holbrooke,former Afghanistan Czar

(I thought this "czar" stuff was silly as well. But this is no game, their roles were issued and received seriously.)



What is the problem?

US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2: The President "shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law."

TBRich's photo
Wed 12/05/12 08:25 AM

Psst, TBR, neither Nixon nor Reagan would stand a chance at getting through the Repub primaries today.


When Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now", Friedman called him the most Socialist President of the 20th century. I think Friedman is an idiot- you buffer Keynes with Hayak not Friedman.

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Wed 12/05/12 08:26 AM


Psst, TBR, neither Nixon nor Reagan would stand a chance at getting through the Repub primaries today.


When Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now", Friedman called him the most Socialist President of the 20th century. I think Friedman is an idiot- you buffer Keynes with Hayak not Friedman.
you buffer Keynes with Mises,not Hayek!

TBRich's photo
Wed 12/05/12 08:53 AM



Psst, TBR, neither Nixon nor Reagan would stand a chance at getting through the Repub primaries today.


When Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now", Friedman called him the most Socialist President of the 20th century. I think Friedman is an idiot- you buffer Keynes with Hayak not Friedman.
you buffer Keynes with Mises,not Hayek!


Is it the Boom or the Bust? Using Hayek and Keynes levels the field.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 12/05/12 12:46 PM
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/mike-bauer/obama%E2%80%99s-czars-and-their-left-wing-affiliations/

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/05/12 01:04 PM
op has been around a couple of years and tackled repeatedly as well


of the 32 'czrs' listed


■Nine were confirmed by the Senate, including the director of national intelligence ("intelligence czar"), the chief performance officer ("government performance czar") and the deputy interior secretary ("California water czar").
■Eight more were not appointed by the president – the special advisor to the EPA overseeing its Great Lakes restoration plan ("Great Lakes czar") is EPA-appointed, for instance, and the assistant secretary for international affairs and special representative for border affairs ("border czar") is appointed by the secretary of homeland security.
■Fifteen of the "czarships" Beck lists, including seven that are in neither of the above categories, were created by previous administrations. (In some cases, as with the "economic czar," the actual title – in this case, chairman of the president’s economic recovery advisory board – is new, but there has been an official overseeing the area in past administrations. In others, as with the special envoy to Sudan, the position is old but the "czar" appellation is new.)
■In all, of the 32 positions in Beck’s list, only eight are Obama-appointed, unconfirmed, brand new czars.

These new "czars" include the special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan; the director of recovery for auto communities and workers; the senior advisor for the president’s Automotive Task Force; the special adviser for green jobs, enterprise, and innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality; the federal chief information officer; the chair of the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board; the White House director of urban affairs; and the White House coordinator for weapons of mass destruction, security and arms control. Or, as Glenn Beck would have it, the Afghanistan czar, the auto recovery czar, the car czar, the embattled green jobs czar, the information czar, the stimulus accountability czar, the urban affairs czar and the WMD policy czar.

Some of these new positions would have been meaningless in a previous administration. Previous presidents didn’t need an Automotive Task Force or a Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board. These positions are similar to George W. Bush’s "World Trade Center health czar" and "Gulf Coast reconstruction czar" in that they are new advisory positions created to deal with temporary challenges facing the administration. Others do represent new long-term concerns (urban affairs, climate change), but the act of appointing advisers to manage new areas of interest is hardly unique to the Obama administration. The Bush administration, for instance, created the "faith-based czar" and the "cybersecurity czar."

Another thing: Beck counts among his 32 "czars" three who have not been called "czars" by reporters at all, except in stories claiming that the Obama administration has lots of "czars." We’ve compiled a FactCheck.org list that discounts these positions, which seem to be "czars" only in the context of media czar-hysteria. (Our list also adds three czars Beck’s research didn’t find – a "diversity czar," a "manufacturing czar" and an "Iran czar.")

As for Obama having an unprecedented number of czars, the Bush administration had even more appointed or nominated positions whose holders were called "czars" by the media. The DNC has released a Web video claiming that there were 47, but it’s counting multiple holders of the same position. We checked the DNC’s list against Nexis and other news records, and found a total of 35 Bush administration positions that were referred to as "czars" in the news media. (Our list of confirmed "czars," with news media sources cited, is here.) Again, many of these advisory positions were not new – what was new was the "czar" shorthand. Like the Obama czars, the Bush czars held entirely prosaic administrative positions: special envoys, advisers, office heads, directors, secretaries. The preponderance of czars earned both ridicule and concern in editorials and in media, but no objections from Congress.



http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/

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Wed 12/05/12 01:12 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 12/05/12 01:13 PM
changing the labels of government employees doesnt change the form of government to 'dictatorship'

if anything, the mention of more and more of these employees, by virtue, makes it less and less of a true dictatorship at all

( I think a true 'dicatator' would 'consult' less with others, if at all)

that and consideration of the 535 politicians who make and pass our bills,,,

willing2's photo
Wed 12/05/12 02:18 PM
Dicktatership is achieved by being able to bypass Congress.




msharmony's photo
Wed 12/05/12 02:58 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 12/05/12 02:59 PM

Dicktatership is achieved by being able to bypass Congress.






nope

dictators wouldnt even have to answer to 'congresses' in the first place

executive orders and vetos have been utilized since Washington,,,so its no more or less a 'dictatorship' than when it was founded


and even vetoes dont give absolute power as a second majority vote in congress overrrules them

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