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to the same anti semitic racists detractors that appear on here over and over again - I can't imagine that you don't have more important things to worry about in your own back yards than trying to tell a sovereign nation what to do ......you sound ridiculous yanno & the racism is vile and ugly just sayin  No matter how it is presented, or with whatever excuse, at the core lies anti-semitism in all its vile and repugnant barbarism. There is a dangerous confluence between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, though the two concepts are not always identical. Anti-Zionism is often used to conceal hatred of Jews. Anti-Semitic views can be easily distinguished from legitimate criticism of Israel. 1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check* 2.Critics who habitually single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by other countries (especially other Middle Eastern countries) are anti-Semitic. *Check* 3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check* 4.Attacks on the merits of Israel's existence rather than individual government policies are anti-Semitic. *Check* When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Dr. Martin Luther King responded: “When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism.”  IN BLACK AND WHITE AND TO THE POINT! This spells out in as few words as possible why the OP and this post are RACIST! QUOTE: Asked whether, in terms of international law, Israel would not still be held responsible for the Palestinian population, Inbar replied: There’s no need for us to be responsible for them. I am not prepared to be responsible for the food that comes or does not come to them. It’s their problem, not ours. What, must I take care of the whole world? We left their big cities in 1996 and that’s it…. If they want to be nice to us then we’ll help them, if not then we won’t…. Yes. There would be international pressure and we will withstand it. If the Europeans want to help them, let them help them…. We should not help our enemies. This represents the situation fairly well. Israel abandoned the West Bank and Gaza to Palestinian governance years ago but no real government every took hold. The PLO died with Arafat and a more corrupt disgusting inept and useless governance has never existed. Now different areas are controlled by local gangs and various terrorist groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad. No one has a clear mandate and all the areas are ruled through fear, extrajudicial beatings and killings and threats. All the groups are broke and depend on smuggling and terrorist support charities most of them rabidly and baldly antisemitic. So, Israel takes steps to safeguard their security first and has to let the various Palestinian warring factions to fight it out themselves regarding dominance. This is not government of course but merely mob fiefdom rule. They want a unified state and the rest of the world would like to see some sort of order there as well but for now it is a pipe dream. And this post cites the realities of Palestine none of the Jew Haters here wish to understand! There are at least three or four people who see this crap posting for what it is! ANTI-SEMITIC PROPAGANDA! people need to learn to attack the policy, not attack the governance of an a nation that you can walk down the streets safe man or woman and NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RELIGIOUS POLICE ARRESTING YOU FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS. Its the crap that surrounds Israel that isn't safe especially for Americans! If Palestine was a nation worthy of recognition they would ACT LIKE IT! What does the UN and Nobel Peace Prize have in common? UTTER HYPOCRISY! THE UN PREACHES HATE IN THE GUISE OF UNITY AND THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IS HANDED OUT TO WAR MONGERS! Obama got one and for what? He has done NOTHING in the name of peace except bytch we need to attack Syria. And the UN refuses to do anything to get the Arabs to leave Israel alone. They are like a referee who allows one team to cheat and busts the other team for anything under the sun. |
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When people cry "racism" they better be talking about skin color.
When you cry "anti-Semitism" to be correct, you better be talking about Semites, not European Jews. You all sound like broken records from world war II. When I criticize a political regime like Nazism, Communism, Zionism, etc. and you call me anti-Semitic or even imply such things it just makes you look ignorant and clueless. Zionism was started by Rothschild. They funded Israel. Rothschild's are not really "Jewish." They don't practice Judaism. They are what they consider to be "royal blood." They are are impostors, hiding their true origins. If people continue to confuse these (royal blood) impostors with Semitic people Or "Jews" they will never really sort out what is really going on in the world. The Rothschilds and J.P Morgan family dynasties are are white skinned Europeans. They pretend to be what they are not, to include Christians and even Catholic priests for the purpose of infiltrating religion and governments around the world. They will even change their last names to disguise their origins, or marry into other family groups. |
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No matter how it is presented, or with whatever excuse, at the core lies anti-semitism in all its vile and repugnant barbarism.
There is a dangerous confluence between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, though the two concepts are not always identical. Anti-Zionism is often used to conceal hatred of Jews. Anti-Semitic views can be easily distinguished from legitimate criticism of Israel. 1.Consider the source. Is the speaker someone with a history of anti-Jewish attitudes? *Check* 2.Critics who habitually single out Israel for condemnation while ignoring far worse actions by other countries (especially other Middle Eastern countries) are anti-Semitic. *Check* 3.Likening Israel to Nazi Germany, or to traditional anti-Jewish stereotypical behavior is another sure sign of Jew-baiting. *Check* 4.Attacks on the merits of Israel's existence rather than individual government policies are anti-Semitic. *Check* When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Dr. Martin Luther King responded: “When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism.” |
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When people cry "racism" they better be talking about skin color. When you cry "anti-Semitism" to be correct, you better be talking about Semites, not European Jews. You all sound like broken records from world war II. When I criticize a political regime like Nazism, Communism, Zionism, etc. and you call me anti-Semitic or even imply such things it just makes you look ignorant and clueless. Zionism was started by Rothschild. They funded Israel. Rothschild's are not really "Jewish." They don't practice Judaism. They are what they consider to be "royal blood." They are are impostors, hiding their true origins. If people continue to confuse these (royal blood) impostors with Semitic people Or "Jews" they will never really sort out what is really going on in the world. The Rothschilds and J.P Morgan family dynasties are are white skinned Europeans. They pretend to be what they are not, to include Christians and even Catholic priests for the purpose of infiltrating religion and governments around the world. They will even change their last names to disguise their origins, or marry into other family groups. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 12/12/12 01:42 PM
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Only Zionists confuse Zionism with being Jewish. Only Zionists use the term "antisemitic." Only Zionist peddle the idea that Israel has a right to exist as a "Jewish State."
To rule a country as a religion... is not a country. It is a cult. (It is a cult like Jim Jones's Jonestown.) That makes them no better that Islam. Government and religion should be separate. I am thankful our forefathers in America were smart enough and did not make this government into a Christian cult. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 12/12/12 01:40 PM
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In order to control the members of is cult, Jim Jones convinces thousands of people to move to Guyanna
Jones had first started building Jonestown in 1970 as a means to create both a "socialist paradise" and a "sanctuary" from the media scrutiny which had started in 1972. Here they also established a cooperative called the "People's Temple Agricultural Project". Regarding the former goal, Jones purported to establish Jonestown as a benevolent model communist community stating, "I believe we’re the purest communists there are." In that regard, like the restrictive emigration policies of the then Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and other communist states, Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown. He became their God. He was insane. In like fashion, the Rothschilds want Jews to move to Israel. (Why?) A "safe haven" and a "sanctuary?" But many have died for that cause. (It is a cult.) And if there is someone manipulating world events in order to attempt to fulfill Bible prophecy, guess what eventually is supposed to happen to the Jews? It doesn't look good for them does it. It didn't look good for the followers of Jim Jones either. Jewish people need to get out of Israel. |
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST.
Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." |
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Jewish people need to get out of Israel. 
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST. Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." I don't question Israel's existence or their right to exist. Please read this carefully. I question the idea of their existence as a "JEWISH STATE." Let them exist, and let them exist as a State. No problem. But any country that wants to be recognized as a "Jewish" or "Islamic" or "Christian" State is nothing more than a great big religious CULT. GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SEPARATE. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend. 
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Jewish people need to get out of Israel. or not. But considering the Christian's interpretation of the prophecy, they should consider it. |
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST. Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." I don't question Israel's existence or their right to exist. Please read this carefully. I question the idea of their existence as a "JEWISH STATE." Let them exist, and let them exist as a State. No problem. But any country that wants to be recognized as a "Jewish" or "Islamic" or "Christian" State is nothing more than a great big religious CULT. GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SEPARATE. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend. Jeannie, the whole entire reason for Israel's existence is to be a place where Jews can find a place to live free to worship their religion without persecution. In Israel, unlike the neighboring states, Jews can live and worship as they see fit, go wherever they like and pray openly. In fact, Israel is the ONLY place in the Mideast where anyone can worship whatever religion they wish free from persecution. It is a great place to live and a wonderful open society for the religious and non-religious alike but Israel's identity is uniquely Jewish as it has been since almost 2000 years before Christ. Honestly, this is a really good thing and serves as an example the many Islamic states of the world could follow to improve their societies.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 12/12/12 05:51 PM
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST. Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." I don't question Israel's existence or their right to exist. Please read this carefully. I question the idea of their existence as a "JEWISH STATE." Let them exist, and let them exist as a State. No problem. But any country that wants to be recognized as a "Jewish" or "Islamic" or "Christian" State is nothing more than a great big religious CULT. GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SEPARATE. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend. Jeannie, the whole entire reason for Israel's existence is to be a place where Jews can find a place to live free to worship their religion without persecution. Do you really seriously believe that? Millions of Jews live here in America and they worship their religion without persecution just fine right here. So that blows a hole in that absurd story. In Israel, unlike the neighboring states, Jews can live and worship as they see fit, go wherever they like and pray openly. In fact, Israel is the ONLY place in the Mideast where anyone can worship whatever religion they wish free from persecution. It is a great place to live and a wonderful open society for the religious and non-religious alike but Israel's identity is uniquely Jewish as it has been since almost 2000 years before Christ. Honestly, this is a really good thing and serves as an example the many Islamic states of the world could follow to improve their societies. They can come to America. Nobody bothers them here. They can probably go to many other places too. But in Israel, they are surrounded on all sides by their enemies. I can't understand why any Jewish person would want to live there. The people who are persecuted here in America seem to be Muslims since 9-11, and I don't think Muslims had anything to do with 9-11. |
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST. Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." I don't question Israel's existence or their right to exist. Please read this carefully. I question the idea of their existence as a "JEWISH STATE." Let them exist, and let them exist as a State. No problem. But any country that wants to be recognized as a "Jewish" or "Islamic" or "Christian" State is nothing more than a great big religious CULT. GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SEPARATE. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend. K, so what is the difference between a Jewish State, Israel, a nation of Jews FOR Jewish belief and tradition much as Islam has Mecca and Iran, and Indonesia, The Vatican is for Catholics, so why Not Israel for Israel? Suddenly we got a right to tell them they can't have their own religious paradise while others can? Scandalous and unfair. Yes government and religion SHOULD in OUR opinion be separate but again in a world of supposed Free Will giving yourself up to a religion is a choice made freely, USUALLY. Not the case with Islam. |
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Andy has a point. The Vatican is officially a state with observer-state status at the U.N., and the USA has an Ambassador to the Vatican. Yet, the Vatican is the property of the Roman Catholic Church.
The city of Mecca is for Muslims only. The modern-day state of Israel is located where the ancient nation of Israel existed, and ancient Israel was originally established as a theocracy. Modern-day Jews in Israel simply want what their ancestors had, except without the strict theocracy of ancient times. |
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Andy has a point. The Vatican is officially a state with observer-state status at the U.N., and the USA has an Ambassador to the Vatican. Yet, the Vatican is the property of the Roman Catholic Church. The city of Mecca is for Muslims only. The modern-day state of Israel is located where the ancient nation of Israel existed, and ancient Israel was originally established as a theocracy. Modern-day Jews in Israel simply want what their ancestors had, except without the strict theocracy of ancient times. The difference is that Israel is largely populated by Jews. That is what draws the critics. |
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Only Zionists confuse Zionism with being Jewish. Only Zionists use the term "antisemitic." Only Zionist peddle the idea that Israel has a right to exist as a "Jewish State." To rule a country as a religion... is not a country. It is a cult. (It is a cult like Jim Jones's Jonestown.) That makes them no better that Islam. Government and religion should be separate. I am thankful our forefathers in America were smart enough and did not make this government into a Christian cult. The other term leave too much Wrigglingroom! Besides! The Genomes proved they are Jews!
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 12/13/12 12:41 PM
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A gene can not prove you are a Jew, if you are claiming that to be Jewish is a religion. Genes cannot determine a person's religion. DUH!
I have proven that to be a Jew is not about race either, with the pictures below of Jews of many different races.  |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 12/13/12 12:47 PM
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Its one thing to question a nation's policies. But to question its very existence the way many here chose to do so? THAT IS RACIST. Israel is the MOTHERLAND of the Jews. Hell, Islam has the BALLS to claim they have part of the Torah as their tradition when they blatantly refuse to acknowledge the claim Israel has on that particular parcel thanks to the Torah. Islam is lying hard about their part in the mess "Over there." I don't question Israel's existence or their right to exist. Please read this carefully. I question the idea of their existence as a "JEWISH STATE." Let them exist, and let them exist as a State. No problem. But any country that wants to be recognized as a "Jewish" or "Islamic" or "Christian" State is nothing more than a great big religious CULT. GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SEPARATE. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend. K, so what is the difference between a Jewish State, Israel, a nation of Jews FOR Jewish belief and tradition much as Islam has Mecca and Iran, and Indonesia, The Vatican is for Catholics, so why Not Israel for Israel? Suddenly we got a right to tell them they can't have their own religious paradise while others can? Scandalous and unfair. Yes government and religion SHOULD in OUR opinion be separate but again in a world of supposed Free Will giving yourself up to a religion is a choice made freely, USUALLY. Not the case with Islam. The problem with creating separate states and separate nations of only people who practice specific religious beliefs is simple. When people separate themselves from each other, and segregate themselves from each other they magnetize their differences and they find reasons to fear each other and with fear comes hatred and bigotry and war. Segregation of the human race is not the answer for peace. It does no good for world peace. Islam wants the entire world to be Islamic and control it via Islamic law. Christians want the entire world to be Christians and promote family values and Christian law. Zionists who claim to be Jews just want to control all the money and wealth of the world. (The real Jews just want to be left alone.)  |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 12/13/12 12:46 PM
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If people would stop trying to tell other people what religious beliefs they should have or practice, and just practice love and acceptance of them as HUMAN BEINGS then they would not find it necessary to build safe havens to segregate themselves from others.
That is what people should work on instead of killing each other because they think they need a safe haven to practice their religious beliefs. They are placing their attention in the wrong place. They are allowing fear and ignorance to rule their lives. PEACE. Its really not rocket science. |
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