"InvictusV"....perhaps thats why she is for gun control ...which is her attempt to help those that are not millionaires feel safe among the mongrel masses



it's a sure bet that it's more than minimum wage



isn't it your 2nd amendment right to have a predator Drone instead of an obsolete gun in case you are attacked by the tyrannical government...or gang members



I only bring up the founding fathers when someone such as yourself start talking about how things use to be



yep, Obama has stopped the war and now bringing the troops home ....that's a good thing...er...isn't it?

Well then, what have I been saying about something we need as gun owners? None of the classes are free. If anything guns SHOULD BE REQUIRED SUBJECT MATTER IN HIGH SCHOOL WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON CHOOSES TO OWN ONE OR NOT!

Education goes a LONG way towards safety! My group teaches novices gun handling, cleaning, and safety to new people coming on one of our trips!

But there is a huge difference between driving and gun ownership. One is a privilege (driving) and the other is a right (gun ownership). now I have been to hunter safety training and I actually surprised the instructors I had in that I KNEW WHAT WAS A SAFE SHOT AND WHAT WAS NOT! And this was in a a class of 30 people and some were active hunters. Hell, I was even given safety training in BOW HUNTING TOO!

Not like any of this will prevent crime... So let me guess, now you are going to say I am some kind of hypocrite becasue I want people to LEARN how to handle a gun safely instead of assuming people just know? I didn't learn how to operate a Bulldozer until someone explained to me what all the levers on it were all about! I kept looking for a long lever for the clutch and it is actually a small lever these days! But just becasue I know how do drive a Bulldozer does not mean I will not find an unsafe use for it if I decide to be a dick!

So let me guess, you are against education???

by "education", are you referring to madatory gun training as a requirement to owning a gun? ...

No, Mandatory gun training to prevent gun related stupidity all around whether or not you own one or chose not to own one. It also makes it harder for liberals who hate guns from having an excuse to blame the tool. It is harder to fear something you know more about. And it is harder for people to play on fears with education. Again there is a difference to a right and a privilege. You can buy a car whether or not you have a license to drive it. I feel training should be mandatory for anyone wishing to carry concealed. Wait one moment, it is!


JOY!


Think of it as a good civics class!

AndyBgood...if gun training is mandatory, that would require a law ...it's Gun Control.....see how you and Obama are on the same page

PUHLEASE!

As if! Gun Control and a class on guns is not a matter of LAW! It is a matter of curriculum.

Besides, gun control to me is putting the bullets into the intended target!

I'm on the same page as Obama indeed! On which dimension? Not this one!

AndyBgood...you agreed that gun training should be mandatory, ...and making it mandatory requires an Obama law....

you're not going to contradict yourself and claim that it shouldn't be mandatory...er...are you?

so come on home to Obama

Now you are just trying to follow the dog under the train. Likewise Obama LAW? Don't you mean executive order?

you stated that gun training should be Mandatory whether one owns a gun or not....so what would it take to make your dream of mandatory gun training come true?

Pure troll, wasting your time. All he does is troll the religious threads, only reason he is back over here is because he knows others care about this topic and thus he has an in to troll you endlessly.

Stop feeding him.

And what is to say I am not having fun trolling this troll?


It is like talking to a parrot!



But you are right. He argues a lot more like a 5 year old with the knowledge of a 12 year old. He knows JUST enough to be dangerous. But he isn't so smart as to be able to out think me. All he does is bite down on finder points where he misses the whole point completely.

So yep, at this point I think I will stop feeding the troll.

Funches, get a grip. You beat the dead horse well.

Bushidobillyclub...are you still mad about how I used The Cosmological Argument to prove that you were an Agnostic? ...it wasn't hard to do since only agnostics start those silly threads

also here in the political forum you have people taking about how Bush and Obama conspried to blow up the Statue of Liberty and the planet Zerkon but yet you call me a troll

if you wish to attack me..then do it in a debate...not by being a coward by trying to induce others into a Witch Hunt ...

AndyBgood...I got you to admit that gun training should be mandatory...I accomplished my mission

you deserve a good sleep my friend

you started the debate ranting and ready to fight and bring thugs to the homeland security workplace (which is insane) ....

and as the debate progessed you became calm (probably received an e-mail from the moderators)

and in the end you agreed that gun training should be mandatory even for those that didn't have or own a gun...wowwwww..

even for those that don't have a gun????....even Obama wouldn't try to pull that one off......but knowing you it was probably your way to sneak in mandatory neighborhood watch.....ooops...er..I meant mandatory civil defense training

but anyway AndyBgood...I'm proud of you

I do not remember what screed you may or may not have put forth were you believed you proved me wrong, but this tiny bit makes me very much aware that the distinction between belief and knowledge is somewhat out of your intellectual reach.

I am both an atheist, and agnostic.

If I thought you could, id ask you to explain how my advice to ignore you is a witch hunt . . . lol, just too easy.

I think I will now take my own advice!

Cheers,

Bushidobillyclub...atheism and agnosticism presents two opposing frames of mind...which is why one is either an Atheist or they are not.. trying to claim that you are both points to Bi-Polar or schizopherenia ....



for those that can't think for themselves or are forced to "google cut and paste" the thoughts of others off of different websites...then yes they probably do need someone to tell them what to do....

but perhaps they should think twice about taking the advise of someone such as yourself that haven't a clue whether they are an atheist or an agnostic ...