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I miss the days of exile.
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If you are to be asked: what will you choose, death penalty or lifelong imprisonment. This is just one of the problems in the world. The law of man vs the law of God. The point of views of the victims and the suspects lies in your hands. Share. I would follow the speciifications of the punishment required by law to the letter except for leniency where it is merited these decisions are not mine but those of the law that is legislated |
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They get more then a few hours out side their cell. Besides, many have stuff to doing the cell like card games, working out, sleeping, playing dominos, read books and so on. I like to know what prison have nasty toilet because the guards are require to carry cleaning supplies to the cells and let the inmates clean their room. I knew guys that would manage to sneak and keep some Clorox bleach and cans of Lysol spray in their rooms. At Christmas time, one guy even bought up most the shampoo from the other inmates out of the Christmas package and he used some of it to mop the floor in his room. Many have used toothpaste to clean things including the walls in their room. Many off them keep their cell clean and refuse to live like a slob. They become very resourceful with the limited supplies. They will tear apart a bed sheet to make a clothes line in their cell to hang their clothes on. Those guys they would sneak and keep bleach in the cell were big on making sure their clothes were both clean and white. Now there was one guy that did pee all over the floor and didn’t care but his cellmates got him transferred out to another pod. They were not going to put up with him dirtying things up. It may very from jails and prison but because of human rights and the way many inmates are, the cells are not as dirty as you think. all prisons arent the same, but most are not exactly a vacation a bsically clean 10*10 room one must LIVE in with no windows and little otuside contact, eating and sleeping amongst killers and rapists, is still not most peoples idea of luxury,,, |
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I say we put all the murderers on one island, the rapists on another, and so on.....yeah like the movie--let them have their anarchy. Prison and/or a death sentence is not right... messed up is the person that thinks like this. |
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Edited by
MetalShadow6
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Sat 03/23/13 07:25 PM
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I see where the ACLU is taking on a case about a 17-year-old that hanged himself after being held in solitary confinement.
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I say we put all the murderers on one island, the rapists on another, and so on.....yeah like the movie--let them have their anarchy. Prison and/or a death sentence is not right... messed up is the person that thinks like this. I don't want prisons where people profit and have jobs 'n stuff. I want the world to set aside an island or two and drop them suckers into the wild where they belong. |
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Edited by
Winlei
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Sat 03/23/13 07:34 PM
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If someone were truly evil, why would you want to keep a cancer alive? Death penalty should be reserved for things like rape and murder. Biblical, a murderer is to be put to death so they can stand trail before God and their accuser, which would be the person(s) they kill. However in the case of rape, statutory rape, would you sleep better knowing that if that person was imprison life long, that person can still get out legally and could start up again? There are some crimes that God commanded to have a death penalty so He could deal with them face to face. Did He? God send us His law(the ten commandment). Thou shall not kill. I believe that we have one final judgement. Living in jail without contentment and peacefulness is torture. By taking their life do you think this will help stop the crime? Even if we have appointed someone to take judgement, we didnt appoint them to take life. There is only one who can vanished us in this world and we have no right to tresspass what is destined. |
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Unfortunately in this day and age murderers, somehow, obtain parole after 20 years or so. I hear about it on the news now and then. While I support the death penalty on a very limited basis anyone who, in cold blood, "MURDERS" someone should never be up for parole, ever. Now if he/she can bring the murdered person back to life then I may be more open minded.
How often has the news reported some killer was paroled and then killed again after getting out? Some innocent person lost their life because the ACLU (American Criminal Lawyers Union) fought for their release? I work with a woman who's father was murdered by a grandson. ACLU is trying to get his sentence reduced to 10 to 15 years because he was only 16 at the time of the murder. Every time the ACLU goes to court to push for this, this lady and her mother live the murder again and again. No one cares what the family goes through. These lawyers are trying to make the murderer out to be a victim of the legal system. This 16 year old knew what he was doing. He knew it wasn't a video game or a movie where the person killed gets up and walks away. He knew what would happen when he pulled the trigger on that 9mm hand gun (which he obtain illegally). He should be put in prison until he is pushing daisies with no possibility of parole: whether he's changed or not. |
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The ten commandments are a basic guideline. It does not cover some aspects.
People like John Wayne Gasey (sp), Henry Lee Lucas, Otis Toole, and a host of other serial killers... Henry Lee and Toole killed over 200 people, and Otis Toole was also a cannibal. In letters (from different prisons) Toole wrote Lucas, and in the letter he asked, "Henry, was i wrong to eat those people". To which Lucas replied, "no Otis, that's just what you like doing" That is pure evil, plain and simple, and there is no rehab that could possibly fix them. The same with Ed Gein, who, (under the premise of taking a neighbors daughter to the fair) abducted the child, killed her and ate her, and had the audacity to mail the parents as to how tasty she was. Now, do you think that deserved any compassion? In Deuteronomy the Bible speaks of (not a direct quote here, as i never quote the word) 'purge the city from evil, take them outside the city and stone them to death, so that each man knows, evil will not prevail' You can also find references to that, in Acts, and another section which i can't remember off the top off my head. My answer to your thread,is, it depends on the crime and circumstance. |
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I prefer rule of law but I think rule of law would ultimately have the same effect for those two
(toasted and roasted - an unfortunate metaphor - sorry) yuck |
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The death penalty!
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I can't for the life of me, understand how it seems okay for a victim, to have the memory of it, a whole lifetime, yet isn't giving the criminal a death penalty, a good way of the criminal having to avoid what he did to them? You guys are still thinking along the lines of punishment. When has this ever done any good....for anything? You remove them, period. |
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If someone were truly evil, why would you want to keep a cancer alive? Death penalty should be reserved for things like rape and murder. Biblical, a murderer is to be put to death so they can stand trail before God and their accuser, which would be the person(s) they kill. However in the case of rape, statutory rape, would you sleep better knowing that if that person was imprison life long, that person can still get out legally and could start up again? There are some crimes that God commanded to have a death penalty so He could deal with them face to face. Did He? God send us His law(the ten commandment). Thou shall not kill. I believe that we have one final judgement. Living in jail without contentment and peacefulness is torture. By taking their life do you think this will help stop the crime? Even if we have appointed someone to take judgement, we didnt appoint them to take life. There is only one who can vanished us in this world and we have no right to tresspass what is destined. Can't have Sheep running around killing in self-Defense now,can we? 
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They get more then a few hours out side their cell. Besides, many have stuff to doing the cell like card games, working out, sleeping, playing dominos, read books and so on. I like to know what prison have nasty toilet because the guards are require to carry cleaning supplies to the cells and let the inmates clean their room. I knew guys that would manage to sneak and keep some Clorox bleach and cans of Lysol spray in their rooms. At Christmas time, one guy even bought up most the shampoo from the other inmates out of the Christmas package and he used some of it to mop the floor in his room. Many have used toothpaste to clean things including the walls in their room. Many off them keep their cell clean and refuse to live like a slob. They become very resourceful with the limited supplies. They will tear apart a bed sheet to make a clothes line in their cell to hang their clothes on. Those guys they would sneak and keep bleach in the cell were big on making sure their clothes were both clean and white. Now there was one guy that did pee all over the floor and didn’t care but his cellmates got him transferred out to another pod. They were not going to put up with him dirtying things up. It may very from jails and prison but because of human rights and the way many inmates are, the cells are not as dirty as you think. |
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If you are to be asked: what will you choose, death penalty or lifelong imprisonment. This is just one of the problems in the world. The law of man vs the law of God. The point of views of the victims and the suspects lies in your hands. Share. I would follow the speciifications of the punishment required by law to the letter except for leniency where it is merited these decisions are not mine but those of the law that is legislated |
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I say we put all the murderers on one island, the rapists on another, and so on.....yeah like the movie--let them have their anarchy. Prison and/or a death sentence is not right... messed up is the person that thinks like this. I don't want prisons where people profit and have jobs 'n stuff. I want the world to set aside an island or two and drop them suckers into the wild where they belong. They still would make a profit with the underground market. Part of the jobs is to train them and reward them so they can return and contribute to society. Just think, you are paying the chain gang to clean the side of the road and they take what little money they earn and buy honey buns and cards that a factory made which may be own by American company. Some in the work release program can save up some cash so when they get out they can afford a place to stay so they will not sleep on the street and with skills that can allow them to get a job so they will not have to steal to just eat. |
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If someone were truly evil, why would you want to keep a cancer alive? Death penalty should be reserved for things like rape and murder. Biblical, a murderer is to be put to death so they can stand trail before God and their accuser, which would be the person(s) they kill. However in the case of rape, statutory rape, would you sleep better knowing that if that person was imprison life long, that person can still get out legally and could start up again? There are some crimes that God commanded to have a death penalty so He could deal with them face to face. Did He? God send us His law(the ten commandment). Thou shall not kill. I believe that we have one final judgement. Living in jail without contentment and peacefulness is torture. By taking their life do you think this will help stop the crime? Even if we have appointed someone to take judgement, we didnt appoint them to take life. There is only one who can vanished us in this world and we have no right to tresspass what is destined. The commandment “Thou Shalt Not Kill” is “You will not murder” in the Hebrew. In Numbers 35 starting in verse 9, God gives Moses the commandments for dealing with murder cases. In 16-18 it states that if you murder, you are to be put to death. They rest of the chapter talks about the other things involved with taking a life like an accident death and needing two witnesses. |
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They get more then a few hours out side their cell. Besides, many have stuff to doing the cell like card games, working out, sleeping, playing dominos, read books and so on. I like to know what prison have nasty toilet because the guards are require to carry cleaning supplies to the cells and let the inmates clean their room. I knew guys that would manage to sneak and keep some Clorox bleach and cans of Lysol spray in their rooms. At Christmas time, one guy even bought up most the shampoo from the other inmates out of the Christmas package and he used some of it to mop the floor in his room. Many have used toothpaste to clean things including the walls in their room. Many off them keep their cell clean and refuse to live like a slob. They become very resourceful with the limited supplies. They will tear apart a bed sheet to make a clothes line in their cell to hang their clothes on. Those guys they would sneak and keep bleach in the cell were big on making sure their clothes were both clean and white. Now there was one guy that did pee all over the floor and didn’t care but his cellmates got him transferred out to another pod. They were not going to put up with him dirtying things up. It may very from jails and prison but because of human rights and the way many inmates are, the cells are not as dirty as you think. I can mainly speak about local jail and the Minimum Security Prison. Most from talking with people that have been and reading up on the different levels of prison but I would guess to much what I said, least about keeping their cell clean to be true. But knowing our government the Maximum Security Prison still would have some things. I think most if not all offer some type of classes. A few told me they got their law degree in Prison. My uncle took a few in the one he was in. |
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Death penalty. clears the jails and makes sure taxpayers dont have to pay for three hots and a cot. I have my reasons....pedophiles, rapests, murders are on the top. After all if they are there.....they can get out and commit the crimes again. why risk another family be torn apart in some way.
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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Mon 03/25/13 08:18 AM
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Unfortunately in this day and age murderers, somehow, obtain parole after 20 years or so. I hear about it on the news now and then. While I support the death penalty on a very limited basis anyone who, in cold blood, "MURDERS" someone should never be up for parole, ever. Now if he/she can bring the murdered person back to life then I may be more open minded. How often has the news reported some killer was paroled and then killed again after getting out? Some innocent person lost their life because the ACLU (American Criminal Lawyers Union) fought for their release? I work with a woman who's father was murdered by a grandson. ACLU is trying to get his sentence reduced to 10 to 15 years because he was only 16 at the time of the murder. Every time the ACLU goes to court to push for this, this lady and her mother live the murder again and again. No one cares what the family goes through. These lawyers are trying to make the murderer out to be a victim of the legal system. This 16 year old knew what he was doing. He knew it wasn't a video game or a movie where the person killed gets up and walks away. He knew what would happen when he pulled the trigger on that 9mm hand gun (which he obtain illegally). He should be put in prison until he is pushing daisies with no possibility of parole: whether he's changed or not. Great post Dave!...Many times people who favor "Life w/o the possibility of parole" as opposed to death sentences conveniently overlook two major considerations of those of us who believe the punishment should fit the crime...One is CLEMENCY, something that can be granted by government officials years, even decades after a "life w/o the possibility of parole" sentence was imposed.....The other is the "fact" that, years later, a judge can find reasons to grant a re-trial....Reasons that have nothing to do with guilt or innocence and everything to do with legal technicalities....Ever wonder how many killers or potential killers know this?....If you don't, you should...Aside from the obvious arguments pro and con, the most relevant argument for me is this...When society becomes doubtful of its "right" to impose ultimate penalties as they apply to the nature of the crime (any crime), abhorrence to that crime will eventually erode to a level of "socially acceptable" barbarism..... |
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