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Topic: Libs Want Pedos Protected from Persecution
willing2's photo
Sun 04/07/13 04:30 AM
Thank a Lib if yer kid is raped by a pedo.
They say he/she can't help their desire for veal.
Calling it a sexual orientation.

(Before It's News)

(RETHINK SOCIETY) California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person’s sexual orientation. That doesn’t sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well.

Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality.

The bill calls on states to prohibit efforts to change a minor’s sexual orientation, even if the minor requests it, saying that doing so is “dangerous and harmful.”

The text of the legislation doesn’t specifically ban “gay” conversion therapy. Instead, it prohibits attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation.

“Sexual orientation change efforts’ means any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation,” the bill says.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that, “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation.” However, the Democrats defeated the amendment. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality.

“This language is so broad and vague, it arguably could include all forms of sexual orientation, including pedophilia,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s not just the orientation that is protected—the conduct associated with the orientation is protected as well.”
Who Cares If Pedophilia Is A Sexual Orientation?

It also means that, if pedophilia is a sexual orientation, that discrimination laws also apply to pedophiles. That means you cannot block a pedophile from being a preschool teacher or any other high-risk occupation.

Recently, a United States District Court Judge, William Shubb, sided with Pacific Justice Institute (PJI) by granting their plaintiffs a preliminary injunction against the legislation, which is known as California SB 1172.

“Because the court finds that SB 1172 is subject to strict scrutiny and is unlikely to satisfy this standard, the court finds that plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits of their claims based on violations of their rights to freedom of speech under the First Amendment,” wrote Judge Shubb.

“This victory sends a clear signal to all those who feel they can stifle religious freedom, free speech, and the rights of parents without being contested,” said PJI President, Brad Dacus. “We at PJI are ready to fight this battle all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

“This will be a long, grueling battle with tremendous consequences for generations to come. We are grateful to those who are willing to support us in this critical time to preserve our freedoms and protect our children,” he continued.

Thankfully, for the time being, this legislation has been blocked, but many questions still remain.

This bill establishes a dangerous precedent for normalizing the behavior of pedophiles while stripping parents of their rights and peace of mind.

One can certainly make the argument that homosexuals are “born that way,” and we generally would not dispute that. However, when we have legislators that want to extend the “born that way” defense to pedophiles, this crosses a very dangerous line.

Whether a pedophile is born that way or not, it still does not make their behavior acceptable in any way.

If so, then you could declare rapists are “born that way.” They can’t help that they need to rape! Poor them!

Let’s be real.

Sex between an adult and a child too young to understand what is going on is not the same thing as sex between two consenting adults.

The operative word here is “consenting.” Children—by both law and basic common sense—cannot “consent.” If Jackie Spier had a son or daughter, and an adult “had consensual sex” with him or her, we do not believe that what she would be so adamant about protecting them.

What liberals conveniently ignore is the fact that all societies who participated in pedophilia—such as the Hittites, Canaanites, Greeks, and Romans—eventually caved in on themselves due to corruption and depravity.

Further, let’s not also forget that their favorite form of entertainment was watching people get torn to shreds by lions, hacked to death, and burned alive.

Recognizing sexual ‘orientation’ is walking a razor’s edge. Unlike gay-oriented legislation, pedophilia has victims who must be protected.

We don’t put pedophiles in prison to make them stop being pedophiles; we put them there because they threaten the safety of the most vulnerable people in a society.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE HERE

2013-04-03 19:59:05

Source: http://www.federaljack.com/pedophilia-is-a-sexual-orientation-under-ca-bill/

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/07/13 04:33 AM
it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!

willing2's photo
Sun 04/07/13 04:38 AM

it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/07/13 05:39 AM


it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.
great,in that case a Child ought to be able to enter Legal Contracts without the Consent of the Parents or Guardian!
Really wonder what those Libtards are thinking,if they do at all!slaphead

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/13 07:42 AM
whats the title of the bill?
which libs proposed/supported it?


pedophilia is a SEXUAL orientation, because of the nature of consent required for sex however, it is not one that can be given the same protection as other sexual orientations

I do think incest will become accepted and protected if our current standards persist, but it will be close to never before it will be accepted to prey on children


as to parents not being able to get therapy for their kids, I never quite agreed with that,, childhood is when children are very perceptible to their peers and outsie influences and I dont think parents should be restricted from deciding which influences they want on their own children,,,

but, with the growing power of the LGBT community, I think we are stuck with that restriction on parents

hopefully though, adults will not be restricted from deciding for themself to seek counseling or not

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/07/13 08:13 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 04/07/13 08:15 AM
This one?

http://speier.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=848:congresswoman-jackie-speier-calls-for-end-to-lgbt-conversion-quackery-introduces-stop-harming-our-kids-shok-resolution&catid=1:press-releases&Itemid=14

http://speier.house.gov/images/shok-speier resolution.pdf

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/07/13 08:17 AM
I don't have a gun, I don't feel the need for one. However, if this becomes fact, I will get a big gun. Vigilante justice works sometimes.


I've told ya i was an ornery ol' cuss.

motowndowntown's photo
Sun 04/07/13 09:04 AM


it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.



Oh for Gods sake!

Do you really believe that anyone, anyone, liberal or conservative,
in their right minds would argue that sexual relations with a child
is okay?

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/07/13 09:32 AM



it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.



Oh for Gods sake!

Do you really believe that anyone, anyone, liberal or conservative,
in their right minds would argue that sexual relations with a child
is okay?



only the apa, if pedophiles are able to kick up enough of a fuss and gain political and financial power,,,,,

but hopefully that wont happen,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 04/07/13 10:47 AM


it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.



Plenty of political liberals are opposed to pedophilia.
So, your claim against liberals is without merit.

no photo
Sun 04/07/13 10:54 AM


it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.


Show me specifically where all these liberals are saying this. Not where you're trying to read between the lines, but where they are actually saying they're for pedophilia.

no photo
Tue 04/09/13 10:03 AM



it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.


Show me specifically where all these liberals are saying this. Not where you're trying to read between the lines, but where they are actually saying they're for pedophilia.


Willing, you never did respond to this.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/09/13 10:05 AM


it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.


how long will it be before "libs" have the right to marry them?

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/09/13 10:07 AM



it's a Sexual Orientation alright,but one that can definitely not be tolerated in a civilized Society!


Libs will disagree.
They will claim they have the right to sex any consenting child.


how long will it be before "libs" have the right to marry them?


I feel strongly children will not be affected, unless more and more people start believing they should be left to their own decisions and devices,, and some greedy lawyers or aCLU members decice to take on their 'cause',,,,


but, MOST Parents, care too much to allow such nonsense,,,

krupa's photo
Tue 04/09/13 10:46 AM
I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed....

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail

Try again...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/09/13 11:02 AM

I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed...

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail
Try again...

so your all for this bill, huh... you feel that they (pedophiles) should just be left alone to their whims? you seem to be offended that your a lib, or are you mad because you think this was directed at you? is it ok for others to be peds, as long as someone doesn't call you one?

no photo
Tue 04/09/13 11:42 AM


I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed...

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail
Try again...

so your all for this bill, huh... you feel that they (pedophiles) should just be left alone to their whims? you seem to be offended that your a lib, or are you mad because you think this was directed at you? is it ok for others to be peds, as long as someone doesn't call you one?


Someone's trying to stir up trouble...

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 04/09/13 11:52 AM



I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed...

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail
Try again...

so your all for this bill, huh... you feel that they (pedophiles) should just be left alone to their whims? you seem to be offended that your a lib, or are you mad because you think this was directed at you? is it ok for others to be peds, as long as someone doesn't call you one?


Someone's trying to stir up trouble...


Yep.

Trying to put words in another member's post won't work.

Claiming that liberals in general support pedophiles won't work either. Such a claim has no evidence to support it.

willing2's photo
Tue 04/09/13 11:54 AM




I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed...

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail
Try again...

so your all for this bill, huh... you feel that they (pedophiles) should just be left alone to their whims? you seem to be offended that your a lib, or are you mad because you think this was directed at you? is it ok for others to be peds, as long as someone doesn't call you one?


Someone's trying to stir up trouble...


Yep.

Trying to put words in another member's post won't work.

Claiming that liberals in general support pedophiles won't work either. Such a claim has no evidence to support it.

It will if her bill passes.

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 04/09/13 12:03 PM





I am a liberal...and if you think that I am cool with a child being harmed...

Say that crap to my face and I would happily go to jail
Try again...

so your all for this bill, huh... you feel that they (pedophiles) should just be left alone to their whims? you seem to be offended that your a lib, or are you mad because you think this was directed at you? is it ok for others to be peds, as long as someone doesn't call you one?


Someone's trying to stir up trouble...


Yep.

Trying to put words in another member's post won't work.

Claiming that liberals in general support pedophiles won't work either. Such a claim has no evidence to support it.

It will if her bill passes.


That is a big "if".

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