Topic: Atheism is a religion!
uche9aa's photo
Fri 11/01/13 12:43 AM
"The foundation of God standeth sure;having this seal,the Lord knoweth those that are his.let everyone that nameth the name of the Lord depart from iniquity"

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Fri 11/01/13 10:42 AM
Edited by creativesoul on Fri 11/01/13 10:43 AM
Religion involves believing in a supernatural entity of some sort or other. Atheism denies the existence of any and all supernatural entities. It is the lack of such belief. Therefore, atheism is - by definition alone - NOT a religion.

The OP has committed the error of confusing every kind of thought/belief with religious thought/belief.

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Fri 11/01/13 11:08 AM

Religion involves believing in a supernatural entity of some sort or other. Atheism denies the existence of any and all supernatural entities. It is the lack of such belief. Therefore, atheism is - by definition alone - NOT a religion.

The OP has committed the error of confusing every kind of thought/belief with religious thought/belief.

Think you got through to him?bigsmile

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Fri 11/01/13 11:09 AM


Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics . . . .

Existence exists, and only existence exists. Existence is a primary: it is uncreated, indestructible, eternal. So if you are to postulate something beyond existence—some supernatural realm—you must do it by openly denying reason, dispensing with definitions, proofs, arguments, and saying flatly, “To Hell with argument, I have faith.” That, of course, is a willful rejection of reason.

Objectivism advocates reason as man’s sole means of knowledge, and therefore, for the reasons I have already given, it is atheist. It denies any supernatural dimension presented as a contradiction of nature, of existence. This applies not only to God, but also to every variant of the supernatural ever advocated or to be advocated. In other words, we accept reality, and that’s all.

The Philosophy of Objectivism lecture series

Leonard Peikoff,


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Wed 11/06/13 11:01 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Wed 11/06/13 11:19 AM
I'm an atheist because i accept science.I'm an atheist because i will never accept a renegade jew is coming to save me from the evil forces of the antichrist.I also don't accept a renegade jew is going to raise me from the dead and give me eternal life.I'm an atheist because i don't believe there's an afterlife where my "spirit/soul"(whatever that is)is floating to a spirit realm up in a fluffy cloud where a kingdom is that a renegade jew,his daddy and a holy ghost reside to be judged by them or some lake of fire where an outcast(satan)causes me to suffer eternally.
I'm an atheist because i didn't choose to accept the sales pitch "you'll have eternal happiness if you accept a renegade apocalyptic preaching jew as your lord and savior"
I'm an atheist cause i know that having morals has nothing to do with the lie christians try to force feed with their dogma by saying you have no morals if,you don't believe in what man wrote claiming an imaginary supernatural being says is morally right.

BTW im not antisemitic it's just jesus was a jew aka renegade jew.

So show me how atheism is a deity based religion.I'm labeled an atheist because i don't accept any deity exist.

uche9aa's photo
Thu 11/07/13 04:09 AM
Darwin cried to God for mercy before he died.Its easy to deny God when you are healthy.Five minutes to die and five minutes after death makes one to eat his or her own words when reality stares you on the face

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Thu 11/07/13 04:13 AM

Darwin cried to God for mercy before he died.Its easy to deny God when you are healthy.Five minutes to die and five minutes after death makes one to eat his or her own words when reality stares you on the face

That's a myth his daughter verified he never said that.She was there the lady who claimed he repented wasn't.Christians lie to promote their dogma also.

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Thu 11/07/13 08:18 AM


Darwin cried to God for mercy before he died.Its easy to deny God when you are healthy.Five minutes to die and five minutes after death makes one to eat his or her own words when reality stares you on the face

That's a myth his daughter verified he never said that.She was there the lady who claimed he repented wasn't.Christians lie to promote their dogma also.
Most atheists houses now serve as bible printing centres around the globe after their expiration on earth.Empty speech of denying God soon gives way to the reality of hell

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Thu 11/07/13 04:06 PM

Unknown to atheists,atheism is a religon!!.Since nature abhors vacuum,its safe to assume that its a worship of self as god.What do you think?


Unknown to you, your logic is faulty

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Thu 11/07/13 05:59 PM


Unknown to atheists,atheism is a religon!!.Since nature abhors vacuum,its safe to assume that its a worship of self as god.What do you think?


Unknown to you, your logic is faulty




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In many different ways.

But you really can't reach such people. And I don't mean "reach" as in: "lead them to question their religion" I mean "reach" as in "lead them to an honest examination of their own abuses of logic".

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Thu 11/07/13 06:00 PM


Darwin cried to God for mercy before he died.Its easy to deny God when you are healthy.Five minutes to die and five minutes after death makes one to eat his or her own words when reality stares you on the face

That's a myth his daughter verified he never said that.She was there the lady who claimed he repented wasn't.Christians lie to promote their dogma also.


Hey, bringing facts into a conversation like this isn't allowed! laugh


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Thu 11/07/13 06:06 PM



atheism is to worship nothing but your brain and knowledge ....
God have mercy


Ucheea, instead of confronting or maligning why don't you follow the advice of Christ who said to pray for those who despitefully use you and love your enemy. Do good to those who hate you. The Father himself makes it rain upon the just and the unjust as Christ well knew. The Father's love extends to all mankind, whether you understand that or not. When someone on the street asks you for some food, do you grant their desire, or do you ask first if he is Christian or Atheist? I am a Christian and I endeavor to show Christ's love to everyone and to be a light to others, not a reason to despise the Christ I love so much. Remember that "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us". Can you display the love Christ did in offering himself up as a ransom for sinners? Would you give your life for those who ridicule you? Christ did! If we call ourselves Christians, we ourselves must be willing to do the same. If you do not believe this, you fall short of the faith you proclaim to believe in. Stop the antagonistic approach, be humble, and come from a point of love and pray for others, instead of constantly debating with people who are set in their beliefs. Prayer works miracles. I know of what I speak. Remember, when at the cross, Christ prayer for forgiveness of others. Please do the same. Hopefully you will consider the things I've said and agree, we must love everyone without condition. This does not mean we have to agree with their viewpoint, but neither does it mean that we set ourselves up as their judge, jury, and executioner. Only God knows their hearts and He is Mercy. Remember also what Christ said "He that is without sin, let him cast the first stone" when speaking to the woman caught in adultery. Please carefully consider the things I have said. Peace and Love to you and everyone here. :smile:


Misty, that is a wonderful post. However, it seems to me that the person you are addressing is on a *completely* different path than you. You may worship the same God, but her basic motives in embracing that belief and advocating for it are so completely different than yours, I'm afraid she won't heed your advice.

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Tue 11/12/13 04:03 AM
May I add that one who believes the bible is very similar to a scientist in that he bases his belief on past research, the difference starts when the old research begins to show flaws and is replaced by a newer more sturdy approach. Fairytales and flying horses all seemed real back in the days where there was a lack of proper lighting, communication, historical information and even scientific research. This day has long passed yet the religious folks refuse to do further research to test their theories, instead they attack you by threatening you with eternal damnation while having fear for the same place. Its pretty obvious that atheism isnt a religion because most modern religions demand a meeting, collection of offerings to 'GOD,' baptisms and attendance as regularly as possible, to be an atheist, all you have to do is read a couple non-fiction books and compare the information, BAM....no baptism, no imaginary friends and no rich gold diggers seperating you and your hard earned money.

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Tue 11/12/13 04:54 AM
I totally agree with you brother

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 11/12/13 05:03 AM

Darwin cried to God for mercy before he died.Its easy to deny God when you are healthy.Five minutes to die and five minutes after death makes one to eat his or her own words when reality stares you on the face

That is Bullmalarky invented by you Religionists!rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Tue 11/12/13 05:05 AM
this >Thread is really in the wrong Category!laugh

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Tue 11/12/13 06:55 AM

Unknown to atheists,atheism is a religion!!.Since nature abhors vacuum,its safe to assume that its a worship of self as god.What do you think?
atheism is a religion!, if practiced religiously.Other wise a call to God in a crisis could put paid to that belief.

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Tue 11/12/13 06:58 AM

This day has long passed yet the religious folks refuse to do further research to test their theories,
If it aint't broke don't fix it.

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Tue 11/12/13 05:06 PM

atheism is a religion!, if practiced religiously.



People can get religious about atheism, but atheism isn't a religion. Just like people can get religious about football or political positions or ....


It's stupid and irresponsible to declare atheism a religion.

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Wed 11/13/13 12:12 AM


Unknown to atheists,atheism is a religion!!.Since nature abhors vacuum,its safe to assume that its a worship of self as god.What do you think?
atheism is a religion!, if practiced religiously.Other wise a call to God in a crisis could put paid to that belief.
Most of the atheists pray to God secretly but deny him publicly just to remain relevant among the God-denyers