• Promote Preventive Care: Health Care Markets will offer primary and preventive services at
little or no cost. Incentives like lower premiums will reward individuals who schedule free
physicals and enroll in healthy living programs. Edwards will also support community efforts to
improve health, such as safe streets, walking and biking trails, safe and well-equipped parks, and
physical education programs for children.


Incentives like lower premiums will reward individuals who schedule free
physicals and enroll in healthy living programs.

Incentives, not force! Perhaps you missed that????

Ok, my other point still stands. What about those who can't afford it? Is he going to have us taxpayers subsidize their portion too if those who can't afford it want to enroll?

He says all Americans are entitled to health care, and I agree!!!

Dont you???
Dont people working at Mcdonalds deserve it too!
Are we now a society who feels we deserve better health care because we make more money? Thats kinda classes and callus, aye!

I know many born with a silver spoon in their mouths that never work a day in their life!

Are they better than a single mother raising her children in poverty off $7.00 an hour just because Daddy decided to not pay child support, or maybe daddy died in a car accident or an accident at work!

Who do you think deserves health care??

That's a whole other thread and debate, Fanta.

The original thread is about the gov't forcing "mandatory" preventative care/tests on the people.


HOW we get everyone access to healthcare is another topic all together.

Everyone under the sun!!!!
Not one single person on this planet should have to go without proper medical care!!!

The topic was about Edwards health care plan which was taken out of context or misprinted to be read wrong. I am trying to clarify the misconception with the plan itself in full text!

Actually this thread is a repeat of another, but that's OK by me!!! Have a good evening I have a bit of homework to do!!!

Mandatory?

What if I don't want health care?

then dont use it

Liability automobile insurance is mandatory in my state. If you can't show proof of insurance...you pay a fine, then after 2nd or 3rd offence you lose your drivers lisence.
I think every driver should have insurance, and I think everyone should have healthcare. I don't think it should be law because there are a lot of people who cannot afford health insurance. I spend more on insurance than any other item.

Mandatory vaccine for deadly bacterial disease sparks debate

see story at

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20519953/


strikes fewer than 3,000 people in the United States each year, many of them college students or children under age 1.

interesting

is this mandatory health care

look if worse comes to worse you can always plead that due to religious preferences you do not take injections or medicines...you were just converted last week????

hey alex


hugs n kissz to you

you seem to always have an answer

I think helath care and or health insurance should be available to everyone that wants it. I don't think a program that mandates you must have tests or checkups run by the government is the answer. This is just another liberal promise them a few crumbs to buy their votes and actually deliver nothing worthless campaign promise.

I've had little time to absorb the entirity of what this proposal includes. One thing I did look for within it's body, was what cost would there be to inividuals?

At this point, I'm not even sure exactly what benefits are being proposed.

Consider this:
Annual health screens for every individual in the U.S. .
1. What does this screeing include?
A visit with a general practicioner seems an absolute.
And then what tests would be considered for each annual screening to be a complete and thorough one?

2. I'm sure that all preventative measures would be inclusive to such a bill, or it would have no purpose. So what defines a preventative measure and when would they be expected to be performed, and would there be any additional cost if family history dictated that preventative measures should be done earlier?

3. Since we have the ability to do so much more DNA testing and since this testing is becoming more available, more accurate and is continueing to advance - will such testing be covered by this bill? Afterall, having knowledge that one is predisposed to certain afflictions, provides the beginning of preventative measures.

NOW - If we grant that all this will be available AT NO ADDITIONS INDIVIDUAL COST, can any of you even begin to fathom the expense of such a program. Consider that the cost of administration would probably be equal to or exceed the phenominal cost of the medical preventative measures.

The proposal has several areas in which 'supplemental' insurance would be required to be provided to every individual at a cost they could affort. HOWEVER, it does not go into detail as to what this supplemental insurance is for.

Since there is absolutely, at least on the surface of what I read so far, no indication of exactly what this national health coverage is to cover, how can the public possibly even consider it's presentation for legislature?

Ask Frankie Milley or Ashley Lee.

It wasn’t until Ashley’s dad told her that the doctors were going to have to take her left foot that she truly understood what meningitis meant.

After visiting her son’s grave recently, Milley wept during a phone interview. Her memories of her only child are intertwined with regret and anger. When Ryan was alive, she wasn’t aware of the vaccination that could have prevented the disease that killed him.

Sure there is a 1.25 in 1 million chance they may have developed a rash, but Ashley would still have her foot and Franky Milley her son!

I still refer to the Edwards plan that says,

"Health Care Markets will offer primary and preventive services at little or no cost. Incentives like lower premiums will reward individuals who schedule free physicals and enroll in healthy living programs."

Not the word "MANDATORY" that is used in the article.

Right now that vaccine is covered by your insurance for the low price of $120

Garden,
This plan is not free, just financially available so everyone who wants it can afford it!
And you will get to chose between plans. Its not just one free party!

You should read it!

I'm not done yet.

Part of the proposal of John Edwards is to cut government entitlemnts to fund this health care venture. I don't have a problem with that, I do have a problem with the government infringing on the rights that legislature has contunially upheld and substantiated and endorsed that seperates government from participating in or contoling free enterprise.

A good portion of the proposed plan, included government dictation to what companies must do and provide and how they must provide it in oreder to have employees. Not only that, but further plans to enact legislation that would direct how insurance companies could run their own free enterprise.

To enact such a proposal, with a policy that allows government to dictate and require a standard of social and community ethics, at the expense of the enterprise, to every company and corporation that employs American citicens is to completely and totally undermind, not only the basis of our free enterprise system, but also underminds the basic constitutional foundations that LIMIT the government from having such power.

We have already been witness, to the coruption that exists when we allow the government such power to regulate our individual persuits, that include the right to enter into the realm of free enterprise.

Even without consuming the entire proposal I can not nor will I ever stand behind this outline. The burden, the conflicts, cost, and injustices that can come of it, do not even begin to make it a worthy effort toward the advancement of equality. In actuality, it perversly affects the foundations of our constitution puts us on a path away from government by the people, for the people.

This part,

A good portion of the proposed plan, included government dictation to what companies must do and provide and how they must provide it in order to have employees. Not only that, but further plans to enact legislation that would direct how insurance companies could run their own free enterprise

Is exactly what the big three say it will take to make them competitive again!

They visited Bush not long ago and told him that they needed the governments help in providing such health care. Because the Foreign Governments were doing it for Auto manufacturers like Toyota and Mitsubishi.

The the largest costs the big three have associated with being competitive are adequate health and pension plans bought from private Insurance providers. Costs they feel they shouldn't cut, because their employees deserved good health care!

Bush told them he wouldn't help!

Fanta I don't recall mentioning anything about "free" in my last post. I just said it was another campaign promise that would be forgotten after the election. Even if he did push it, it would be stalled or bastardized by congress till it was unrecognizalbe. And I still don't think the government can run anything in an efficient manner. Further, I think that any program that implements "mandatory" checkups etc smacks of Socialism, but then what else can we expect from the Socialist Party.

Yes that is one reason I am for Ron Paul; he wants to restore the Constitution.... where everyone has freedom to chose and rights that we don't have now.