Obamacare is the greatest achievement of the progressive liberal socialists in history. They have been trying for over fifty years to enact a national healthcare system and finally set the foundation with Obamacare. Although not one Republican voted for it and it took a lot of arm twisting of some Democrats with pay-offs and let's not forget the shady rule changes by Senate majority leader Reid to finally get the votes needed to pass it. All that said, they finally did it.
However, the down fall of Obamacare will be not what they did, but what the Democrats failed to do.
First, like many Republicans have argued, the Executive branch can not modify, change or make any laws. It is the sole power of Congress to make or change laws. This is specially true when it comes to taxes. Since the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare as constitutional citing that it is a tax,then only Congress can make,change or modify tax law.
The Democrats have usurped their power by letting Obama basically have line-item veto power when it comes to the law. This has been true with immigration policy as well. By allowing the executive branch to modify, grant waivers, delays and special exemptions in their zeal to enact this law, they in turn destroyed it. They set a precedent that will enable the next republican president to grant waivers and exemptions to everyone thereby killing Obamacare with a stroke of the pen without regard to what the balance of power is in the Congress.
The Democrats should have kept Obama from modifying the law in any way, thus preserving the congresses power and keeping future presidents from making unconstitutional changes.

So do you think Obama care will succeed or fail?

Is it good or is it bad?

Why is it good?

Why is it bad?

Well it won't succeed just for the reason stated. When the Dems turned the other way when Obama made all the changes, they left the door open for any president to make changes.
It's a bad law(any law that has not one vote from opposing party is bad) because as Americans we should have the freedom to choose what insurance to buy. Why should a single man 60 years old pay for maternity and child care? This law has little to do with healthcare and much more about power and controlling 1/6 of the economy.

If you are correct, then the people who currently control the economy will make sure Obama care is implicated no matter who the next president is.

They are the central banks and the Elite billionaires who control the flow of money. They are the Federal Reserve Bank, etc. They, as you must know, control politics, who is elected etc.

Please stop making this a fantasy battle between democrats and republicans. That is just a distraction.

Ok, the reptilians are for Obamacare so that they can harvest the organs for themselves.

It's not a battle between Dems And Reps...its a battle between free people and socialists. Many moderate Dems were against it too..but were threatened with loss of backing by the DNC etc. As for your arguments about the "Elites", they were just fine without the government mandates. You'll see that obamacare was meant to fail, if they wanted the private insurance market to work they would of made much higher penalties if you didn't comply. This is an unworkable economic model. All people with very expensive pre-existing conditions signing up, healthy people not and just paying a small fines will collapse as intended and Obama will "bail-out" the failing insurance companies creating one National government insurance entity or national healthcare.If government can control your healthcare, they can control everything you do from what you eat to how you raise your children.

No, so they can feed on the blood of the little ones....

The Reptile Queen...

Here comes the Queen
and her royal court.
Her servants are waiting
within the fort.
No one will stand
in the way of her power.
The time is at hand,
and dark is the hour.

She comes to deliver us,
(and that was the plan.)
Oppression and ruthlessness
Is ruling our land.

With reptile eyes,
Cold blooded and cruel
she spreads the lies
and continues to rule.

Here comes the Queen
with her vampire sons
and they drink the blood
of the little ones.

So watch your children
and hide your gold;
Here comes the Queen
and her blood runs cold.

Sounds like the "Elites" are controlling you

Nope.

Nobody controls me.

But seriously, they do elect the presidents, both parties. I would think most people would know that by now.

And who does the DNC get their money from? .....The banker elite.




Yes I agree with the above. What is wanted is total government national healthcare....total control of the people. (Food, healthcare, housing, energy, etc.) That is part of the tyranny dictatorship type government they are setting up.

Lets assume you are right that the "elites" control everything..big banks etc (which I agree to certain extent). The issue is the Elites are not always trying for the same outcome. Some may want a world order, others have more power without a world order. You may say these "Elites" control or contribute to different factions either DNC or RNC or other interest groups. These are the choices we have, which "elitist's" do we support, the ones for free enterprise or ones that want to control every facet of your life. we are all pawns to the powerful but we do have some say in which power brokers we support.JMO

that thing was Stillborn!

I am not familiar with the ones who want "free enterprise." Most Elites want control of the bulk share of things. (Monopolies)

Although there are different and competing factions, the over all and most important part of the plan for control of the world is to control the money. The Federal Reserve Bank, a private company, prints money out of nothing and loans it with interest to the government. The congress has the power to print its own money so that is what they should do. Why don't they do that? The last two presidents who did that were assassinated. (Garfield and Kennedy) and I'm sure Lincoln was putting a wrench in the Elite's plans too. They don't like you, they kill you.

Fractional reserve lending is for the purpose of putting the world in debt to the money changers (Banksters) who will eventually own all the property and real wealth and control the health system, the food system, the transportation system, the energy systems etc. Total control is their goal. Anyone who gets in their way are ruthlessly dealt with.

But the people still have a lot of power if they would use it. The average person just needs to realize what is happening. The fact is that anyone who currently has a mortgage on their home will loose it. Unless you own your home outright, you are going to loose it to the Banker criminals.

As the population become more and more totally dependent on the government, they come more and more under their control.

I understand that the Muslim world has a law against charging interest. (Fractional reserve lending) and that is probably the reason there is such a hot campaign of hate mongering going on towards them. Those ideas are standing in the way of putting the world into debt to the Elite.

Obama care, as it was sold to the people, will not work. It will probably morph into a total government health care system for everyone since most Insurance companies will go broke and most people will not be able to afford the new rates and they will be forced onto the government's healthcare plan.

The bad part about it is that people who take care of their own health, and don't smoke and eat well, and exercise, will be paying for health care for the people who do drugs, and drink, and smoke and get sick by their own actions.

umm... you've been doing that for years... OC doesn't change that aspect...

it won't work because it will bankrupt the country... every one with a stomach to a hangnail will be flooding the Emergency wards, things they don't really need a doctor for...

True, and the doctors have decided to quit, and there aren't enough to go around, and people have to wait for months to get appointments.

Not as much as we will be in the future. You ain't seen nuttin yet.