Topic: 911 Truther Crashes Super Bowl
Conrad_73's photo
Wed 02/05/14 03:07 PM


I just enjoy the comments at the yahoo article. Have no idea why yahoo users seem to have a higher IQ than many of the posters on this site.

Here is one I found interesting.

Building 7 fell in 6 seconds and nothing hit it! ...That's right a 3rd building fell and there was a media blackout about it. Not on single airport security camera showing you a terrorist entering a plane, no plane at the pentagon or shanksville. 2500 architects and engineers telling you that NIST is lying to your face! Nano-thermite found in ''molten metal''...jet fuel burns at 800 degrees steel takes 3000 degrees to melt, I worked at a steel mill for 20 years!
http://news.yahoo.com/911-truther-super-bowl-135800473.html;_ylt=AwrBT4BbXPJSzggAmzJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzaGM5MGpkBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDMyMF8x


No! It was nano-termites!

damn nasty Insects!frustrated pitchfork

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Wed 02/05/14 03:31 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Wed 02/05/14 03:37 PM


Acute TDS!
Hope he will get help!laugh


http://gunssaveus.com/post-game-interview-interrupted-investigate-911/

Post Game Interview Interrupted, “Investigate 9/11?”

Was this a crazy fan or some sort of inside genius? Should we take his advice and investigate 9/11, we have all heard the conspiracy about it being an inside job. This is probably a guy we should have mentally evaluated.(not just him) Just a funny incident….

Gotta love those people willing to risk jail time for insanity.laugh


I'm surprised the player didn't clock him for his rudeness. Talk about stealing the man's glory, but a typical truther stunt. Have you seen the way Chomsky dealt with a truther who pulled a similar stunt during question time after a lecture? It was priceless.

http://youtu.be/vDDhN9j5C14

Bestinshow's photo
Wed 02/05/14 04:56 PM


I just enjoy the comments at the yahoo article. Have no idea why yahoo users seem to have a higher IQ than many of the posters on this site.

Here is one I found interesting.

Building 7 fell in 6 seconds and nothing hit it!


Incorrect. It took about 14 seconds IIRC and it was struck by large chunks of debris from WTC 1 & 2. Owing to the water supplies being destroyed by the collapse of WTC's 1 & 2, the fires in Blg. 7 went unfought for seven hours. This caused the failure of a key column under the Penthouse which initiated the collapse.

...That's right a 3rd building fell and there was a media blackout about it.


Incorrect, no media blackout ensued and actually 10 buildings were destroyed. I saw it reported in real time here in Australia...some blackout.

Not on single airport security camera showing you a terrorist entering a plane,


Incorrect. See the evidence from the Moussaoui trial.

No plane at the pentagon or shanksville.


Incorrect. Evidence recovered at both sites and eyewitness accounts.

2500 architects and engineers telling you that NIST is lying to your face!


Incorrect. Not many members are actually accredited when one investigates the roster. Furthermore, you assume that they have studied the NIST report and found it wanting. If so, why haven't they published their findings in a credible journal? Gage is a con-man and he will never put up his claims for peer review as he knows it will destroy what's left of his credibility.

Nano-thermite found in ''molten metal''...


Incorrect. Jones and Harrit 'claimed' to have found evidence of Nano-Thermite in dust collected that contained paint chips. Dr. Millette has proved this false, and the editor of the Bentham Journal who published this erroneous paper had to resign over the subsequent scandal over a lack of peer review.


jet fuel burns at 800 degrees steel takes 3000 degrees to melt,


Steel loses its structural integrity at a much lower temperature. You should know that because...

...you worked at a steel mill for 20 years!

So much for their supposed IQ. It would seem the commentators don't really know the subject. 12 years and 9/11 truth still just talks crap and does nothing.

Drink the cool aid hot rod. We all know plane crashes involve body parts suitcases, clothing pretty much everything all over the place. Saw none of that at the Pentagon.

How many video cameras surround the Pentagon? what footage was released?

And what are the defenses of the Pentagon? The nerve center of
our trillion dollar defense industry?

I am not saying everyone is right who makes a post but most of the intelligent comments are from thinking people and the majority take a position that goes against the official explanation of 911.

I am thinking most people are 911 skeptics.

It was used to create this god awful Orwellian police state we call America.

The land of free and home of the brave is some kind of sick joke.

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Wed 02/05/14 10:08 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Wed 02/05/14 10:20 PM

Drink the cool aid hot rod.


Ok, just a banal handwave response without addressing the points...I
knew that was coming. Question: How do you know you haven't drunk the 'Kool-Aid'? You don't know the subject as well as you think you do, and nor did the commentators you reposted.

We all know plane crashes involve body parts suitcases, clothing pretty much everything all over the place. Saw none of that at the Pentagon.


So YOU didn't see it, so it doesn't exist. That sums up truther lack of reasoning skills beautifully. You do know that we in the west refrain from displaying bodies and body parts of innocent victims in the media out of respect? Have you seen the CCTV recording of the fireball after impact? You know, the one that shows the plane striking the Pentagon, despite the limitation of frames per second? If you had you would realise that much of the debris was destroyed, or inside the building in the crash zone. You can easily find pics of the wreckage if you look, try googling in 'images' 'AA77 wreckage', that should be a good start.

How many video cameras surround the Pentagon? what footage was released?


Roughly, 85 but most weren't aimed at the impact zone, mostly entrances and exits (understandably). You can find the relevant footage in the Moussaoui trial evidence, and I'm certain I posted the evidence in a previous thread. If I didn't you'll have to excuse me as I do this on a lot of sites and I sometimes forget.

And what are the defenses of the Pentagon? The nerve center of
our trillion dollar defense industry?


Very little as I've demonstrated to you on a number of occasions. I think I brought it up on your thread about Mineta's 'evidence'.

I am not saying everyone is right who makes a post but most of the intelligent comments are from thinking people and the majority take a position that goes against the official explanation of 911.


Well, none of that stuff was right and you are resorting to your usual logical fallacy: argumentum ad populum. Most of your 9/11 threads are spent trying to prove how popular the truth movement is, when in actual fact it's limited to a small number of internet cranks. NYCCAN couldn't get 25,000 legitimate signatures for its petition to investigate the collapse of WTC7 in '09. 24,450 were bogus names and addresses. Gage can't get the donations to build a prima facie case on AE911T (it's funny how his operating costs always exceed the cash donated per annum).

I am thinking most people are 911 skeptics.


Well, that doesn't mean anything, see argumentum ad populum.

It was used to create this god awful Orwellian police state we call America.


You wouldn't know the true meaning of police state.

The land of free and home of the brave is some kind of sick joke.


To you, perhaps. 12 years and 9/11 truth still has nothing but lies and fanciful stories.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/06/14 01:26 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 02/06/14 01:28 AM
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/324987?page=13

9/11: A Conspiracy Theory


Cussed Nano-Termites!:laughing: laugh

no photo
Thu 02/06/14 02:52 AM


I just enjoy the comments at the yahoo article. Have no idea why yahoo users seem to have a higher IQ than many of the posters on this site.

Here is one I found interesting.

Building 7 fell in 6 seconds and nothing hit it!


Incorrect. It took about 14 seconds IIRC and it was struck by large chunks of debris from WTC 1 & 2. Owing to the water supplies being destroyed by the collapse of WTC's 1 & 2, the fires in Blg. 7 went unfought for seven hours. This caused the failure of a key column under the Penthouse which initiated the collapse.

...That's right a 3rd building fell and there was a media blackout about it.


Incorrect, no media blackout ensued and actually 10 buildings were destroyed. I saw it reported in real time here in Australia...some blackout.

Not on single airport security camera showing you a terrorist entering a plane,


Incorrect. See the evidence from the Moussaoui trial.

No plane at the pentagon or shanksville.


Incorrect. Evidence recovered at both sites and eyewitness accounts.

2500 architects and engineers telling you that NIST is lying to your face!


Incorrect. Not many members are actually accredited when one investigates the roster. Furthermore, you assume that they have studied the NIST report and found it wanting. If so, why haven't they published their findings in a credible journal? Gage is a con-man and he will never put up his claims for peer review as he knows it will destroy what's left of his credibility.

Nano-thermite found in ''molten metal''...


Incorrect. Jones and Harrit 'claimed' to have found evidence of Nano-Thermite in dust collected that contained paint chips. Dr. Millette has proved this false, and the editor of the Bentham Journal who published this erroneous paper had to resign over the subsequent scandal over a lack of peer review.


jet fuel burns at 800 degrees steel takes 3000 degrees to melt,


Steel loses its structural integrity at a much lower temperature. You should know that because...

...you worked at a steel mill for 20 years!

So much for their supposed IQ. It would seem the commentators don't really know the subject. 12 years and 9/11 truth still just talks crap and does nothing.



Sure, just keep drinking the kool-aid.

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 02/06/14 06:28 AM
In order to understand the improbability of the government’s explanation of 9/11, it is not necessary to know anything about what force or forces brought down the three World Trade Center buildings, what hit the Pentagon or caused the explosion, the flying skills or lack thereof of the alleged hijackers, whether the airliner crashed in Pennsylvania or was shot down, whether cell phone calls made at the altitudes could be received, or any other debated aspect of the controversy.

You only have to know two things.

One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/11/the-11th-anniversary-911-paul-craig-roberts/

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/06/14 07:24 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Thu 02/06/14 07:25 AM



where is the plane?

are you going to say that no plane crashed?

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/eagle4184/photo.shtml

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 02/06/14 07:28 AM
I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.


InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/06/14 07:58 AM

I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.




what about the pentagon site?

There are several pictures of the plane debris and there are thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane flying over the beltway..


Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/06/14 07:59 AM

I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.



Yep,the UDSA!pitchfork

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:10 AM


I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.




what about the pentagon site?

There are several pictures of the plane debris and there are thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane flying over the beltway..


Please identify more than a hand full. Please present the video evidence we all know exists from the Pentagon. Why is this stuff secret? It was after all the reason behind two wars and the patriot act. No one needs to debate the details all day long but recognize that the filthy neo cons used it to betray everything this country is supposed to stand for.

OH those bankrupting wars killing hundreds of thousands of people unfunded and unsupported by the vast majority of americans.

Well news flash.

the criminals have turned a fine dollar on all this and we americans have paid the price.

What type of world could we have built without all this waste and suffering?

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:21 AM



I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.




what about the pentagon site?

There are several pictures of the plane debris and there are thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane flying over the beltway..


Please identify more than a hand full. Please present the video evidence we all know exists from the Pentagon. Why is this stuff secret? It was after all the reason behind two wars and the patriot act. No one needs to debate the details all day long but recognize that the filthy neo cons used it to betray everything this country is supposed to stand for.

OH those bankrupting wars killing hundreds of thousands of people unfunded and unsupported by the vast majority of americans.

Well news flash.

the criminals have turned a fine dollar on all this and we americans have paid the price.

What type of world could we have built without all this waste and suffering?


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

Here,read something factual,instead of those same old Troofersites,that regurgitate the same old tired Garbage!

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:24 AM



I am more interested in the pentagon site myself. I am sure we could trade photo bucket dumps all day long or argue about how steel bends before it breaks or any number of petty details. I have never been more certain of any debated topic that 911 was an inside job and was used to usher in the patriot act and destroy our democracy if we ever had one.




what about the pentagon site?

There are several pictures of the plane debris and there are thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the plane flying over the beltway..


Please identify more than a hand full. Please present the video evidence we all know exists from the Pentagon. Why is this stuff secret? It was after all the reason behind two wars and the patriot act. No one needs to debate the details all day long but recognize that the filthy neo cons used it to betray everything this country is supposed to stand for.

OH those bankrupting wars killing hundreds of thousands of people unfunded and unsupported by the vast majority of americans.

Well news flash.

the criminals have turned a fine dollar on all this and we americans have paid the price.

What type of world could we have built without all this waste and suffering?


http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:26 AM
The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.


Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:35 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 02/06/14 08:36 AM

The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.



you're grasping at Straws,old Son,the Straw of Obsession!
Were not discussing the Official Story,but your absurd take of simple Physics!

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 02/06/14 08:39 AM


The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.



you're grasping at Straws,old Son,the Straw of Obsession!
Not at all Mr Conrad not at all. 911 was the day the country died. Ushering in wars and war crimes ,torture domestic spying on a massive scale it was the day this country lost all credibility.

How fitting a brave man stepped up to the microphone claimed the truth at the superbowl and I bet the player was thinking to himself.
"well if I say anything there goes my five million a year career"

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Thu 02/06/14 09:16 AM



The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.



you're grasping at Straws,old Son,the Straw of Obsession!
Not at all Mr Conrad not at all. 911 was the day the country died. Ushering in wars and war crimes ,torture domestic spying on a massive scale it was the day this country lost all credibility.

How fitting a brave man stepped up to the microphone claimed the truth at the superbowl and I bet the player was thinking to himself.
"well if I say anything there goes my five million a year career"


yea, i'm sure thats what he was thinking after winning the superbowl...whoa
just because your obsessed with 9-11 doesn't mean anyone else... except for the nut-job that interrupted the interview...

no photo
Thu 02/06/14 09:19 AM

The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.


Has there ever been a case where a steel building like tower 7 collapsed from fire? If so I would like to know where and when.

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/06/14 09:22 AM

The entire official story of 911 is so absurd I am shocked its even debated. from the failure to release the pentagon videos(except for one blurred shot that shows something not sure what) to the flight instructors who claim those guys could not fly a Cessna and managed to pull off high speed descending spirals to hit the targets in a jumbo jet.

When firemen and fire captains report molten steel you can bet they are correct. When they say they heard explosions you can bet they are correct. When scientists claim they have found fused concrete and metal and incendiaries risking their entire career you know they have the facts to back them up.

You can choose to believe the half baked story of 911 its your business but don't think everyone else is so dim.




yes these people you mention trump all the other firemen and scientists that don't buy the conspiracy theory..

the only ones credible are the ones that tell the story you want to believe.