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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? What in the world are you talking about? Please elaborate with verses showing such claims. Matthew 7 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? and that's what you got out of that?... 
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? and that's what you got out of that?... Yes in response to Milesoftheusa's post. |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? What in the world are you talking about? Please elaborate with verses showing such claims. Matthew 7 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? This is how believers are to judge among themselves. Math. 7 speaks of you do not have the right to judge when u r sinning yourself or doing the same thing. it is an explanation taking a good look at yourself. Math 18 speaks of the Body of Messiah judgin it self and the correct way to do it. Matt 18:15-20 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. 18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them." NKJV 2 or 3 coming to a conclusion is part of the law. 1 witness is never enough. but to go to your brother in private about a sin is brotherly love. |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? and that's what you got out of that?... Yes in response to Milesoftheusa's post. lol, ok... i' try it again... what other people believe, do, want, need, and eat or drink has nothing to do with me or you.... |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? What in the world are you talking about? Please elaborate with verses showing such claims. Matthew 7 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? This is how believers are to judge among themselves. Math. 7 speaks of you do not have the right to judge when u r sinning yourself or doing the same thing. it is an explanation taking a good look at yourself. Math 18 speaks of the Body of Messiah judgin it self and the correct way to do it. Matt 18:15-20 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. 18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them." NKJV 2 or 3 coming to a conclusion is part of the law. 1 witness is never enough. but to go to your brother in private about a sin is brotherly love. Umm Milestones... Matthew 18 is not talking about nor does it say to judge anyone. Seeing someone do a sinful action is not "judging" them. It is seeing an action done. So then it says to go talk to the person and show them the error in their ways. You never have any right to judge someone for their actions. Also have to keep in mind a "judgement" is not a "perspective". There is actions behind the "judgement". You do not have the right to judge other's of their sins because you yourself do sins. Maybe not the same exact sin, but nevertheless a sin in one way or other. That is why we have one focal judge amongst us all. And our judge is sinless, Jesus Christ. |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite many people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise. 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise. 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality. |
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise. 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality. What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others. Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers |
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Is it odd that people who are not homosexual are so engrossed in the ramifications of homosexuality? What does it matter if they are "sinners" or not. The deity being quoted was purported to have loved sinners and spent time among them. Even said something about casting the first stone as well as it not being what enters the mouth defiling a man but the words that come out. (Okay, the latter referenced a response to being called a sinner for eating without first washing hands - you caught me being facetious). Point is, there is no reference to homosexuality in the ten commandments. If you aren't gay, don't want to be gay, don't like gays - leave them be. They have enough to deal with and so do you.
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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth. In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner 1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin. 2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin 3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too. 1. Only if you were committing the sin as well. 2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question. Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone? "god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses... Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child. The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning. Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them. The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back. Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law. Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by. Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison. Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip. If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did? what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does... religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others? no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone. James 1:22-25 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. NKJV actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach. Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise. 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality. What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others. Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show Please do enlighten us where we are told judging is to be done in the church. Now keep it in context as well, just because the word "judge" is used does not mean it's used in the same context of that which we speak of. In this particular discussion and or how it started anyways is judging others to be sinful or not, or if their sin is deadly, if they'll make it to heaven or not, and so forth. Because the verses/instructions I provided state "judge not". Doesn't say only judge those in the church, ect. Scripture on judging yourself - 1Corinthians 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. And where did we get into "judging"? Nobody said a specific person will or won't go to Heaven. No one's made a judgement that I have read in that context. |
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HUH? All the ambiguity in these quotings. Nothing can be said but "splinters and timbers". Live and let live.
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HUH? All the ambiguity in these quotings. Nothing can be said but "splinters and timbers". Live and let live. ??? Aren't we all just here having a "discussion"? No one's judging another, no one's throwing hatred at another. It is a live and let live world, Jesus will do all the judging. That is why again, we're not suppose to judge another, for the simple fact it is again live and let live. God does all the judging. |
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HUH? All the ambiguity in these quotings. Nothing can be said but "splinters and timbers". Live and let live. ??? Aren't we all just here having a "discussion"? No one's judging another, no one's throwing hatred at another. It is a live and let live world, Jesus will do all the judging. That is why again, we're not suppose to judge another, for the simple fact it is again live and let live. God does all the judging. |
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HUH? All the ambiguity in these quotings. Nothing can be said but "splinters and timbers". Live and let live. ??? Aren't we all just here having a "discussion"? No one's judging another, no one's throwing hatred at another. It is a live and let live world, Jesus will do all the judging. That is why again, we're not suppose to judge another, for the simple fact it is again live and let live. God does all the judging. Who said anything about "holier then thou" stuff? I would suggest taking it up with that person. We're just here discussing one sin of many sins. No judging, no downing of another person. We all sin in one way or other. No one's better then another. And you claim Take yer bible and f**k off! If one can not have a civil discussion on different "religious" things and or there things therein, then why would they spend time on a "religion" chat forum? |
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what is that incessant Fascination with Homosexuality?
   
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My "huh" comment referred to the litany of garbled quotations. State your position without all the gobbledygook. We get that you profess a distaste for homosexuals. I'm not going to call you homophobic because I don't believe there is always fear involved in not liking something. But, being different is no sin my friend. Loving another human being, no matter their gender or race, assigns one no guilt. You don't have to participate in their lifestyles, associate with them, or deem it acceptable. So why think it necessary to malign them? They don't meet in the woods at midnight to dance around fire and eat children. They don't follow you around trying to lure you in to gayness. My point is that these human beings do not infringe upon our being in any way. Whether they marry, divorce, or have children has no bearing on us.
And, yes, we are having a discussion. My opinion is different than yours. I accept that you have and are entitled to that opinion. No amount of soap boxing will change my mind any more than simple reason will change yours. Let's find another topic to debate. Enough with the homosexuals already. |
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