http://www.rand-2016.org/limits2.aspx?pid=0513

This is still way too much, 6 years as a representative and 12 years as a Senator, then what? A lobbyist or a bureaucrat?

And then after 5 years of service, they are eligible for the government retirement system:

Retirement Benefits for Members of Congress

This isn't reform, it's just shifting the illusion. It would but establish a new elite class where the beneficial politicians of the people are pushed out and the psychopathic statist moves to the monied side of things. If one where to study the constitution it is very clear that in reality that the two components of the federal legislature have but two functions; the house in controlling the funds and expenditures as a means of protecting the rights of the people and the senate in protecting the rights of the states from encroachment by the federal bureaucracy.

There doesn't need to be a reform except in the understanding of the people as to just whom really is the authority and whom is the servant.

"Sign the petition! Term Limits Now Act!"

Good luck in getting enough members of Congress to vote in favor of a Constitutional amendment that would impose term limits.

you get around the Congress!

Constitutional Convention!

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/article-v.html

Congress need not be involved!

That is true.
However, the petition mentioned in the OP pertains to members of Congress, not members of state legislatures.

if they rely on Congress,they'll wait until the Cats fly home!

We need an Executive order here.

Would be about as effective!!

get enough legally obtained registered voters signing petitions
to put it on ballot

and senators need to go back to being appointed by the state they
are from like it was set up originally

The 17th Amendment was one of the major downfalls of this whole republic system. A republic is impossible to maintain without vigilance and vigilance requires checks and balances. One of the most important balances was control of the Senate by the states, not the people, they had the House.

With the senate in control of the states, there was enough power there to keep the federal government from overrunning the states. But alas we now see the result but the masses are still ignorant of the causes.

exactly

It does not matter after office they work for whatever corporation they represented while in office.

the shorter the better
the tighter the sweater
the better we see
the sting of the Bee

keep them dudes on a quick AM radio style rotation gets my vote

As much as I believe in term limits, I cant sign anything that guy puts out. You now my opinion about the Paul's and I am not going to disrespect you here my friend by repeating it on your thread.

I agree, they wont vote on something that will eventually put them out of a job. I only know of a hand full who would sign that bill.

and how much good would they be to that Corporation during,say,one term in Office?

I agree, that was going to be my next post. Unfortunately the members of state houses aspire for higher offices too, so I think they would likely not support it.

http://mises.org/daily/5776/The-State-Is-the-1-Percent

interesting take on who the 1% really are!

Interesting, only if one desires to be mislead and misinformed. While the author has some very valid concepts in his writings, this subject area is not one of them. For example:



He seems to have some strange trait of making a profound statement and then screwing up the conclusion. He has done the same in the 1% argument, eliminating all but the bureaucrats and saying they are the 1%. Well they aren't, they are the effect, not the cause. Something most of the Mises Institute has a severe problem with.

The bureaucrats are the fictions of the legislature, entitled to become part of the executive. It is the executive that "directs" their activities while the legislative is "supposed" to set or at least approve their regulations.

But, this does not happen, the "real" 1% prevent it, yes the real one percenters, the one's controlling the purse strings. The ones outlined by Wilson, the man that unleashed them upon this nation.



Yes, Wilson was an idiot and a patsy. That is why he was elected, the Republican wanted to have the Federal Reserve but didn't want to be responsible, they found Wilson, a democratic idiot and the rest is history. One hundred years and people still believe they have a choice, the idiotic masses.