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Topic: Jesus like Muslim?
Reemasah Joined Sat 08/16/14 Posts: 47	Mon 08/18/14 11:03 AM
Quran refers to Jesus as one of his messengers, Jesus was sent in his time as a prophet to guide human being to the righteous path (the Path of Allah(God)).. Muslims whole heartedly accept him as a Messenger of Allah, we do beleive him, we do respect him as we respect the other messengers of Allah. Please show the verse(s) that state he is a messenger specifically referring to his name and all in the context so that we can be sure of whom exactly is being referenced in the verse(s) in question. U don't understand this verses , but if u did that u would know it is the core of faith

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 08/18/14 11:40 AM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 08/18/14 11:41 AM
Quran refers to Jesus as one of his messengers, Jesus was sent in his time as a prophet to guide human being to the righteous path (the Path of Allah(God)).. Muslims whole heartedly accept him as a Messenger of Allah, we do beleive him, we do respect him as we respect the other messengers of Allah. Please show the verse(s) that state he is a messenger specifically referring to his name and all in the context so that we can be sure of whom exactly is being referenced in the verse(s) in question. U don't understand this verses , but if u did that u would know it is the core of faith And you know what I understand how? You know what they say about people that assume right?

Reemasah Joined Sat 08/16/14 Posts: 47	Mon 08/18/14 01:18 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 08/18/14 01:21 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet.

Reemasah Joined Sat 08/16/14 Posts: 47	Mon 08/18/14 01:39 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet. He said Made me a prophet ( It is the first thing he said to his people ) , i don't say that u don't have that kind of verses but i think the interpretation for it was wrong . He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet He Made him prophet not gave him prophet their is big difference between giving him and making him .

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 08/18/14 01:53 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet. He said Made me a prophet ( It is the first thing he said to his people ) , i don't say that u don't have that kind of verses but i think the interpretation for it was wrong . He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet He Made him prophet not gave him prophet their is big difference between giving him and making him . ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse Yes he worships his Father, he states multiple times his father is his God. Even on the cross, "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me". But never does Jesus say he is a "prophet". Someone can be God and a messenger, note he's a messenger not a prophet, two totally different things. And he tells us he does the Father's will and not his own, so again showing his father to be his God. If he was just a prophet, why did he claim that no one can come to the father but through him? If he was just a "prophet" he wouldn't have that power, nor would he be our judge. For we are judged by the Word and Jesus is the Word in the flesh. Even at the very first reference to Jesus or the Word, it says he is God and he was with God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 08/18/14 01:53 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet. He said Made me a prophet ( It is the first thing he said to his people ) , i don't say that u don't have that kind of verses but i think the interpretation for it was wrong . He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet He Made him prophet not gave him prophet their is big difference between giving him and making him . ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse Yes he worships his Father, he states multiple times his father is his God. Even on the cross, "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me". But never does Jesus say he is a "prophet". Someone can be God and a messenger, note he's a messenger not a prophet, two totally different things. And he tells us he does the Father's will and not his own, so again showing his father to be his God. If he was just a prophet, why did he claim that no one can come to the father but through him? If he was just a "prophet" he wouldn't have that power, nor would he be our judge. For we are judged by the Word and Jesus is the Word in the flesh.

Reemasah Joined Sat 08/16/14 Posts: 47	Mon 08/18/14 02:12 PM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet. He said Made me a prophet ( It is the first thing he said to his people ) , i don't say that u don't have that kind of verses but i think the interpretation for it was wrong . He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet He Made him prophet not gave him prophet their is big difference between giving him and making him . ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse Yes he worships his Father, he states multiple times his father is his God. Even on the cross, "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me". But never does Jesus say he is a "prophet". Someone can be God and a messenger, note he's a messenger not a prophet, two totally different things. And he tells us he does the Father's will and not his own, so again showing his father to be his God. If he was just a prophet, why did he claim that no one can come to the father but through him? If he was just a "prophet" he wouldn't have that power, nor would he be our judge. For we are judged by the Word and Jesus is the Word in the flesh. Where did he refereed to ( God ) as a father in the verses i gave u , He said God ( means the one he worship ) , and let me ask u something Do u refer to ur father as ur GOD the word dose not mean the word of the GOD , means the faith and the believe that God sent us with him the word can means so many things but needs us to be understanding and can link things together . The ( BE ) word is the Main word in the whole faith system It means God's well , ( BE )

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Mon 08/18/14 02:17 PM
Once More In The Original Greek Texts: John 1: Verse 1 '" In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God's "' So Why Doesn't Christendom Write It This Way ???????

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Mon 08/18/14 02:47 PM
Jesus s the christ and the son of god..it was another way of referring to the messiah, the who would come to and administer gods rule on earth, and rescue the world from all its oppressors and troubles..he s king..not just a king but THE KING.. This is also a retrofit as the Jewish definition of what and who a messiah was is that he would be soley human Please do enlighten us with this "verse" or whatever you wish to call it that you got the knowledge that the messiah was soley human. The context of a what a messiah would be is a secular.political leader, for example- Bar Kochba, Constantine, etc.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Mon 08/18/14 03:06 PM
Messiah just means 'Anointed One' Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King.

m3k4y Joined Tue 07/08/14 Posts: 13122	Mon 08/18/14 04:10 PM Edited by m3k4y on Mon 08/18/14 04:11 PM
Ohh..what an early exercise for mekay..in relation to God he s first called son, an exellent name or exalted title wich s given to no angel.. Next he s the radiance of God glory and the exact representation of hes being. Both were great importance when the theologians of the fourth and fifth centuries were seeking to define the nature of the sons relation to the father over against the heretics. the modalist made him out to b the same person as the father though now n a different mode that s, God ceased to b the father and became the son.

m3k4y Joined Tue 07/08/14 Posts: 13122	Mon 08/18/14 04:13 PM
Hebrews 2:14 in this glorious and unique person ..son, radiance an image of the father, creator, upholder and hier of the universe who took flesh and blood like us.

m3k4y Joined Tue 07/08/14 Posts: 13122	Mon 08/18/14 04:20 PM
Ohhh..dear i can suggest u some books if u want..for u to lighten up ur mind..Even jews who reject jesus as their mesiah have never lost interest n him.. All Jews reject Jesus, in their eyes he's not the savior. Thus why they don't follow the Holy Bible which includes the instructions our savior and God Jesus Christ gave to us. Many who never reach n confessing him as god and savior yet regard him with profound admiration. True, there are others who resent and reject him. But one thing people seems unable to do s to ignore him and leave him alone.

0ldhag Joined Sat 05/31/14 Posts: 1146	Mon 08/18/14 04:51 PM
Jesus like Muslim? I thought Jesus liked everyone.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 08/19/14 06:24 AM
Chapter#3 Verse#59 - Al Quran That verse doesn't say Jesus nor speaks of anything we're talking about. Prophet, tell your wives, daughters, and the wives of the believers to cover their bosoms and breasts. This will make them distinguishable from others and protect them from being annoyed. God is All-forgiving and All-merciful. {Such Jesus like Adam when God created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!} Al-Imran 59 you can argue as much as u want , i can prove to u in all the ways that he was a prophet and a messenger not God or A son of A god or not holy spirit (As said Jesus the son of Mary, O children of Israel, I am the Messenger of Allah ( GOD ) to you confirming the hands of the Torah and promising a Messenger to come after me, and when he came to them based Ahmed said this charm shown} this verse 6 chapter 16 This verses was said By Jesus him self None of which he says he's a prophet, and yes he's a messenger of God the father for he said John 6:38 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. But that doesn't make him a prophet or a "messenger" plainly. He delivered us a message, but that is because he is our God. He was instructing us, not just passing on instructions. And fyi, not sure who you're talking to but I don't argue, I discuss. Now show me where he says he's specifically a prophet as you claim. Jesus saying 'I am a prophet' or however he may have worded it. ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse This is the first thing prophet Jesus when he was new born to his people You just had given "him" a prophet. In the context of your sentence, that would be giving Jesus a prophet. He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet. That still doesn't say Jesus is a prophet nor Jesus personally saying he's a "prophet". Because I have many different examples to show Jesus saying he is God if you want them but not one of him saying he's a prophet. He said Made me a prophet ( It is the first thing he said to his people ) , i don't say that u don't have that kind of verses but i think the interpretation for it was wrong . He worships Allah ( God ) the one that gave HIM a prophet He Made him prophet not gave him prophet their is big difference between giving him and making him . ( he said i worship allah( God ) the one has given me the Book and made me a prophet) chapter Mary / 30 verse Yes he worships his Father, he states multiple times his father is his God. Even on the cross, "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me". But never does Jesus say he is a "prophet". Someone can be God and a messenger, note he's a messenger not a prophet, two totally different things. And he tells us he does the Father's will and not his own, so again showing his father to be his God. If he was just a prophet, why did he claim that no one can come to the father but through him? If he was just a "prophet" he wouldn't have that power, nor would he be our judge. For we are judged by the Word and Jesus is the Word in the flesh. Where did he refereed to ( God ) as a father in the verses i gave u , He said God ( means the one he worship ) , and let me ask u something Do u refer to ur father as ur GOD the word dose not mean the word of the GOD , means the faith and the believe that God sent us with him the word can means so many things but needs us to be understanding and can link things together . The ( BE ) word is the Main word in the whole faith system It means God's well , ( BE ) He didn't refer to him as "father" in the verses you quoted. He did say "God" but a "God" isn't specifically something one worships. Only in our culture in this day and age that word is used as such. "God" means being of authority. Thus why even we are referred to as gods. "God" isn't denoted to a magical being, it's a word to show one's authority over another. And he repeats this concept when he says things such as "I came to do my father's will and not my own".

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 08/19/14 06:28 AM
Once More In The Original Greek Texts: John 1: Verse 1 '" In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God's "' So Why Doesn't Christendom Write It This Way ??????? Don't know who "Christendom" is lol, but as far as I know any translation of those verses state just that. For Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh. For again in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God. Then the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us eg., Jesus Christ.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 08/19/14 06:33 AM
Messiah just means 'Anointed One' Which would also serve as a coronation ritual with someone to be King. Meriam dictionary Messiah - a : the expected king and deliverer of the Jews b : jesus Jesus is king, a king doesn't have to be secular. Jesus is king of kings, God of Gods. Revelation 19:16 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. Psalm 82:1 82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods ----------------- Have to step back from what we think of "words" first off hand. And think about the time frame and culture the verses were written to understand what they are saying and mean by what they say.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 08/19/14 06:35 AM
Jesus like Muslim? I thought Jesus liked everyone. Think he forgot a word in his original statement, stating in a such way Jesus is like a Mulsim, as in he was teaching muslim and or was a muslim.