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Topic: Lost History, The Truth About The Civil Rights Movement
Lpdon's photo
Sat 07/05/14 09:21 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sat 07/05/14 09:36 PM
Today we are hearing how Republicans and Conservatives are either the party of racists or that they are racists in general, but history proves a different story. This rhetoric is being pushed by those on the left and is being used as a tool to divide people. The real history is no longer taught to our children and so many adults have fallen prey to this rhetoric without actually doing the research to see if it is actually true.

If you look though the history books that are presented to our children. If you listen to politicians and pundits. If you talk to your neighbors or friends. Most, would not even believe many facts of the lost history in the Civil Rights Movement. This is a travesty of truth, and the people that have been most afflicted by this have been the African American community for not really understanding the truth about the Democrat Party and how they have buried the truth about their past.

Were you aware that even under FDR'��s ��New Deal�� program that was to benefit lower income segments of the population, African Americans were still segregated in Soup Lines and Bread Lines?

In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.

It was not until Truman used the executive order that the military finally became desegregated. It should also be noted that LBJ was not the great Crusader of Civil Rights. President Johnson made a 360— turn in his civil rights position when he became President, from 1940 to 1960 Johnson voted with the South 78% on civil rights issues. Prior to 1957, Johnson voted with the South 100% on civil rights issues. He also voted against the C.R.A. of 1957 and 1960.

Were you aware that in order to break the racist ways of Southern Democrats, it was Republican President Eisenhower who sponsored both Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act and it was a LBJ lead Senate who fought tooth and nail against them? Ike finally signed a watered down Civil Rights Bill. Yes, let me repeat that, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sponsored and signed the first Civil Rights Bill. Did you know that? In 1957 President Eisenhower signed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, which was intended to guarantee the voting rights of all African Americans. This was the first Civil Rights legislation to pass since Reconstruction. He also was forced to send Federal troops to Little Rock Arkansas to escort black students entering a formally all white school. Now today all we here in regards to Civil Rights legislation centers around the 1964 C.R.A., but this is leaving out some of the most important parts. Including the fact that LBJ, prior to moving up to the Executive Office, opposed legislation favoring civil rights for African Americans in this country. One should ask, why this is no longer taught in our schools to children?


I apologize for the following language but we have to understand the truth that is not being told any longer. The following quotes are LBJ quotes:


��I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years. Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

You can find this in Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”

Let'��s go back to FDR again, many like to hold FDR up as one of the more progressive presidents that helped champion the plight of the poor, one of the first to implement social justice for all. This social justice and equality excluded one of the poorest segments of the population at the time, discrimination in housing, transportation, public accommodations and the armed services went virtually unchecked by the Roosevelt administration. It was not until 20 some years later that a real effort was made to change this, but the efforts to do so may have led to the breakdown of the family unit and created even greater dependency on the government by those in the African American community. What it did, as LBJ pointed out, was insure that African Americans would be compelled to vote Democratic for generations to come by not giving a hand up, but by giving a hand out! He did this through what is called the “Great Society” and the war on poverty. As we know today though, that war has virtually been lost despite the billions thrown into the battle. Today we have some of the highest poverty rates in America, and we have one of the highest amount of citizens dependent on food assistance through programs such as Food Stamps. As a progressive program this has developed into an utter failure, even if it was perceived initially as a compassionate response to some of the ills that faced many in this community. Corruption and waste is rampant, along with abuse and increasing dependency.

In the mad dash to vilify the Republicans and Conservatives today many have forgotten the fact that it was the Republican Party that was the champion of Civil Rights and freedom for African Americans. Today that story goes either untold or when it is told, those that do so are immediately under attack and accused of being a racist. Many today would like you to believe that just because conservatives would rather assist in moving people off the rolls of welfare or any number of assistance programs, we do not care about those that have been conditioned to be dependent on those programs, and that is one of the most fatal mistakes that progressives make. Conservatives understand that people need assistance, but we also understand that it cannot become a lifestyle, that is passed down to generations to come.

Conservatives look at the potential of the individual and not the potential for further votes and power due to the repression of the constituents to rise out of the dependency on Government as LBJ pointed out.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/some-of-the-lost-history-in-the-civil-rights-movement

Wish Democrats actually new history and didn't just follow talking points.

cosigna's photo
Sat 07/05/14 09:32 PM
thank you for the info. I like looking into history myself and i am glad you posted it.Thank you

Lpdon's photo
Sat 07/05/14 09:34 PM

thank you for the info. I like looking into history myself and i am glad you posted it.Thank you


Your welcome.

msharmony's photo
Sun 07/06/14 03:53 AM
hopefully informed voters, of whatever party, understand political history is much more complex than just democrat or republican, liberal or conservative

and most civil rights legislation was more regional (southern/northern) than political,,,,

northerners (whichever party) were much more likely to support 'equality' and southerners were much more likely to support a caste system

today, the republican party has a stronger following of southerners than the democrats do,,,but that hasnt been the historical constant,,,

Lpdon's photo
Sun 07/06/14 11:08 AM

hopefully informed voters, of whatever party, understand political history is much more complex than just democrat or republican, liberal or conservative

and most civil rights legislation was more regional (southern/northern) than political,,,,

northerners (whichever party) were much more likely to support 'equality' and southerners were much more likely to support a caste system

today, the republican party has a stronger following of southerners than the democrats do,,,but that hasnt been the historical constant,,,


That's not all True. Over 90% of Republicans voted for Civil Rights all lot of those votes would have to come from the South.

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Sun 07/06/14 11:17 AM
Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:
- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html

msharmony's photo
Sun 07/06/14 12:01 PM


hopefully informed voters, of whatever party, understand political history is much more complex than just democrat or republican, liberal or conservative

and most civil rights legislation was more regional (southern/northern) than political,,,,

northerners (whichever party) were much more likely to support 'equality' and southerners were much more likely to support a caste system

today, the republican party has a stronger following of southerners than the democrats do,,,but that hasnt been the historical constant,,,


That's not all True. Over 90% of Republicans voted for Civil Rights all lot of those votes would have to come from the South.


not really





Dodo_David's photo
Sun 07/06/14 02:08 PM
There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.

isaac_dede's photo
Sun 07/06/14 03:00 PM

There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.

eventually people are going to wake up and understand that neither party is ANYONE'S friend.

both parties are now backed by the same big company donors in equal amounts.....those who hold the purse strings......

msharmony's photo
Sun 07/06/14 08:03 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 07/06/14 08:06 PM

There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


yeah, parties arent 'friends' but there are goals, actions, and platforms that fit better than others

for some african americans, the republican platorm and actions are a better suit to what they value

for others , the democratic platform and actions are a better suit,,,


and then there is also the talking heads that speak for and in front of the parties which contribute to peoples choices too,,,



its always odd to me, no offense, to have people tell me what african americans should understand about our own interests,, especially non african americans,,,,

shrug,,,

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:18 AM

Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:
- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html


Gee I wonder why Byrd opposed it, at the same time he opposed it he was burning Crosses in front yards.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:21 AM

There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


Unfortunately the GOP sucks at getting that message out!

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:26 AM


There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


yeah, parties arent 'friends' but there are goals, actions, and platforms that fit better than others

for some african americans, the republican platorm and actions are a better suit to what they value

for others , the democratic platform and actions are a better suit,,,


and then there is also the talking heads that speak for and in front of the parties which contribute to peoples choices too,,,



its always odd to me, no offense, to have people tell me what african americans should understand about our own interests,, especially non african americans,,,,

shrug,,,


Just like you telling white people they are racist because they don't support your Fuhrer.

I don't speak for the African American's as I am not one, but next sister in law is African American I have 6cousins who are and several really good friends who are and not ONE supports Obama. Most did in 2008 because they bought into the hope and change BS, but have seen through the clouds and talking points of the DNC. Obama has hurt the African American community and turned his back on them, just like he is destroying America.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:40 AM



There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


yeah, parties arent 'friends' but there are goals, actions, and platforms that fit better than others

for some african americans, the republican platorm and actions are a better suit to what they value

for others , the democratic platform and actions are a better suit,,,


and then there is also the talking heads that speak for and in front of the parties which contribute to peoples choices too,,,



its always odd to me, no offense, to have people tell me what african americans should understand about our own interests,, especially non african americans,,,,

shrug,,,


Just like you telling white people they are racist because they don't support your Fuhrer.

I don't speak for the African American's as I am not one, but next sister in law is African American I have 6cousins who are and several really good friends who are and not ONE supports Obama. Most did in 2008 because they bought into the hope and change BS, but have seen through the clouds and talking points of the DNC. Obama has hurt the African American community and turned his back on them, just like he is destroying America.


I have never told white people they are racist for not supporting someone,, and I dont have a fuhrer

People support who they support and if it is consistent,,,,

like if bob didnt support healthcare reform under clinton and still doesnt under obama,,,,I could believe bob didnt like healthcare

but if bob supported military action without congressional approval under Reagan but not under Obama, Id have to imagine that the issue wasnt the military action but the PERSON under which it happened,,,


I really dont care if others support Obama, I know of noone who doesnt in my family,, and they are all over america and mostly african american,,,but even those african americans who dont, I dont assume they are not supporting him due to his race, UNLESS there is an inconsistency where the only differentiating factor is race

..all that being said,, my point was not about OBAMA , who is not a political party but just one member of it

my point was about how condescending it sounds for non blacks to assume that blacks are any less capable of making sound political choices than anyone else,,,,,by assuming that those voting democrat are somehow therefore not enlightened about what their interests are,,,,or how to vote them

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:32 PM




There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


yeah, parties arent 'friends' but there are goals, actions, and platforms that fit better than others

for some african americans, the republican platorm and actions are a better suit to what they value

for others , the democratic platform and actions are a better suit,,,


and then there is also the talking heads that speak for and in front of the parties which contribute to peoples choices too,,,



its always odd to me, no offense, to have people tell me what african americans should understand about our own interests,, especially non african americans,,,,

shrug,,,


Just like you telling white people they are racist because they don't support your Fuhrer.

I don't speak for the African American's as I am not one, but next sister in law is African American I have 6cousins who are and several really good friends who are and not ONE supports Obama. Most did in 2008 because they bought into the hope and change BS, but have seen through the clouds and talking points of the DNC. Obama has hurt the African American community and turned his back on them, just like he is destroying America.


I have never told white people they are racist for not supporting someone,, and I dont have a fuhrer

People support who they support and if it is consistent,,,,

like if bob didnt support healthcare reform under clinton and still doesnt under obama,,,,I could believe bob didnt like healthcare

but if bob supported military action without congressional approval under Reagan but not under Obama, Id have to imagine that the issue wasnt the military action but the PERSON under which it happened,,,


I really dont care if others support Obama, I know of noone who doesnt in my family,, and they are all over america and mostly african american,,,but even those african americans who dont, I dont assume they are not supporting him due to his race, UNLESS there is an inconsistency where the only differentiating factor is race

..all that being said,, my point was not about OBAMA , who is not a political party but just one member of it

my point was about how condescending it sounds for non blacks to assume that blacks are any less capable of making sound political choices than anyone else,,,,,by assuming that those voting democrat are somehow therefore not enlightened about what their interests are,,,,or how to vote them


You deny playing the race card, but in the same post you play the race card. Make up your mind.

BTW U gave credit where credit was due the FEW times Obama did his job and used military action where it was needed(granted several of those times were major F-ups's). Where I am livid is he has no backbone and use military force every time it is needed, even without Congressional approval if necessary.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:38 PM
And yes I am giving him credit for getting Osama Bin Laden, but not full, the intelligence was gained under enhanced interrogations under the Bush administration.

Not to mention he should have realized Pakistans first response would have been to launch fighters, we should have had ours in the air during the operation outside the Pakistani border ready to go and intercept any jets they send out, were damn lucky the SEALS made it out of there.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:40 PM

I don't understand, how is a list of Democrats, from the SOUTH, opposed to civil rights surprise anyone?


Because Republicans from the south supported it.

TBRich's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:40 PM
I don't understand, how is a list of Democrats, from the SOUTH, opposed to civil rights surprise anyone?

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:53 PM





There are African-Americans who understand that the Democratic Party is not their friend.


yeah, parties arent 'friends' but there are goals, actions, and platforms that fit better than others

for some african americans, the republican platorm and actions are a better suit to what they value

for others , the democratic platform and actions are a better suit,,,


and then there is also the talking heads that speak for and in front of the parties which contribute to peoples choices too,,,



its always odd to me, no offense, to have people tell me what african americans should understand about our own interests,, especially non african americans,,,,

shrug,,,


Just like you telling white people they are racist because they don't support your Fuhrer.

I don't speak for the African American's as I am not one, but next sister in law is African American I have 6cousins who are and several really good friends who are and not ONE supports Obama. Most did in 2008 because they bought into the hope and change BS, but have seen through the clouds and talking points of the DNC. Obama has hurt the African American community and turned his back on them, just like he is destroying America.


I have never told white people they are racist for not supporting someone,, and I dont have a fuhrer

People support who they support and if it is consistent,,,,

like if bob didnt support healthcare reform under clinton and still doesnt under obama,,,,I could believe bob didnt like healthcare

but if bob supported military action without congressional approval under Reagan but not under Obama, Id have to imagine that the issue wasnt the military action but the PERSON under which it happened,,,


I really dont care if others support Obama, I know of noone who doesnt in my family,, and they are all over america and mostly african american,,,but even those african americans who dont, I dont assume they are not supporting him due to his race, UNLESS there is an inconsistency where the only differentiating factor is race

..all that being said,, my point was not about OBAMA , who is not a political party but just one member of it

my point was about how condescending it sounds for non blacks to assume that blacks are any less capable of making sound political choices than anyone else,,,,,by assuming that those voting democrat are somehow therefore not enlightened about what their interests are,,,,or how to vote them


You deny playing the race card, but in the same post you play the race card. Make up your mind.

BTW U gave credit where credit was due the FEW times Obama did his job and used military action where it was needed(granted several of those times were major F-ups's). Where I am livid is he has no backbone and use military force every time it is needed, even without Congressional approval if necessary.


I didnt introduce any 'card'

someone introduced the topic of 'african americans', of which I am one, and I responded in context,,,

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:54 PM


I don't understand, how is a list of Democrats, from the SOUTH, opposed to civil rights surprise anyone?


Because Republicans from the south supported it.


no confederate republican supported civil rights

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