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Topic: Is time travel possible?
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Wed 02/25/15 06:58 PM
All I know, for as often as I was damned near ready to freeze-to-death...

Time, sure as Hell wasn't slowing down! sad

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Wed 02/25/15 07:23 PM


I can leave this post here come back and revisit it in 3 years..
and it would be as though "time stood still".... not to mention with my luck I'll still be on here in 3 years..tears


lol, time doesn't move or stand still...


Assuming time is the constant and everything moves relative to it....

What if the passing of time is not constant and it is actually a variable that moves relative to something else...?
If time universally passes slower or faster, then it can move... We just won't notice it since we move along with it...

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Wed 02/25/15 07:29 PM
As for the possibility of time travel... It is not impossible... Not probable, but not impossible... And no real way to prove it either... Like cross dimensional travel...

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Wed 02/25/15 07:30 PM



I can leave this post here come back and revisit it in 3 years..
and it would be as though "time stood still".... not to mention with my luck I'll still be on here in 3 years..tears


lol, time doesn't move or stand still...


Assuming time is the constant and everything moves relative to it....

What if the passing of time is not constant and it is actually a variable that moves relative to something else...?
If time universally passes slower or faster, then it can move... We just won't notice it since we move along with it...


the only question on that for me is "what is 'it'" to me, time is nothing more than a thought, a perception that has no meaning other than a unit for math purposes...

but the only thing i could think of that would make it relative to something else would be gravity... not sure why, but they seem related in a weird way...

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Wed 02/25/15 07:34 PM




I can leave this post here come back and revisit it in 3 years..
and it would be as though "time stood still".... not to mention with my luck I'll still be on here in 3 years..tears


lol, time doesn't move or stand still...


Assuming time is the constant and everything moves relative to it....

What if the passing of time is not constant and it is actually a variable that moves relative to something else...?
If time universally passes slower or faster, then it can move... We just won't notice it since we move along with it...


the only question on that for me is "what is 'it'" to me, time is nothing more than a thought, a perception that has no meaning other than a unit for math purposes...

but the only thing i could think of that would make it relative to something else would be gravity... not sure why, but they seem related in a weird way...



We move along with it... I meant, we move along with time... That is why we continue to perceive time as constant because we move along with time

But my question is what if time is relative to something else that we have not yet discovered, or we have not yet correlated with time...?

Time and gravity are related because you can define the speed of gravity through the use of time... And you can deduce time based on the speed of gravity...

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Wed 02/25/15 07:43 PM





I can leave this post here come back and revisit it in 3 years..
and it would be as though "time stood still".... not to mention with my luck I'll still be on here in 3 years..tears


lol, time doesn't move or stand still...


Assuming time is the constant and everything moves relative to it....

What if the passing of time is not constant and it is actually a variable that moves relative to something else...?
If time universally passes slower or faster, then it can move... We just won't notice it since we move along with it...


the only question on that for me is "what is 'it'" to me, time is nothing more than a thought, a perception that has no meaning other than a unit for math purposes...

but the only thing i could think of that would make it relative to something else would be gravity... not sure why, but they seem related in a weird way...



We move along with it... I meant, we move along with time... That is why we continue to perceive time as constant because we move along with time

But my question is what if time is relative to something else that we have not yet discovered, or we have not yet correlated with time...?

Time and gravity are related because you can define the speed of gravity through the use of time... And you can deduce time based on the speed of gravity...


gravity is a constant, it only varies with mass, but still a constant... we don't move along with time because time is in our heads, we move along with the universal flow that people confuse with time... time isn't what makes the day go by, the earth spinning is what makes the day go by, and we put a numerical value to that... the closest thing to time i can think of would be entropy, or decay... but i think both would happen without time, because our time is based on our solar system...

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Wed 02/25/15 07:52 PM
Gravity isn't constant by any means.

The further One gets away from an object that produces gravitational pull... The weaker it gets.

I still think of time as something perceived with, with as constant an increment as we can possibly perceive.

It seems we're in a Lineal Universe.

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Wed 02/25/15 07:55 PM
Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?

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Wed 02/25/15 08:02 PM

Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...

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Wed 02/25/15 08:08 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 02/25/15 08:08 PM

Gravity isn't constant by any means.

The further One gets away from an object that produces gravitational pull... The weaker it gets.

I still think of time as something perceived with, with as constant an increment as we can possibly perceive.

It seems we're in a Lineal Universe.


the pull of gravity is the same anywhere in the universe, as far as we know... your right, the further away from a object, the less gravity, but only because of it's field of influence... but if the earth had the same mass as the sun, the gravity would be the same... that's what i meant by constant... it always has the same pull in relation to the bodies size, just a bigger or smaller sphere of influence...

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Wed 02/25/15 08:14 PM
One must not confuse Mass with Size or Weight!

For example; A pound of Popcorn (In A Bag) occupies much greater space than a pound of Cheese, but they both have the same collective mass.

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Wed 02/25/15 08:14 PM


Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?

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Wed 02/25/15 08:21 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 02/25/15 08:23 PM



Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?


no, not really, i just think the theory or relativity should be reexamined...

i don't think it(ToR) is correct... but lots of people a lot smarter than me think it is, so...

the law of gravity has more proof to being true, since there has been nothing to say otherwise...(Issac Newton showed it in the 17th century, and hasn't changed much since)

there are still a lot of holes in the ToR, and even more with Quantum sciences coming into the picture...

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Wed 02/25/15 08:29 PM




Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?


no, not really, i just think the theory or relativity should be reexamined...

i don't think it(ToR) is correct... but lots of people a lot smarter than me think it is, so...

the law of gravity has more proof to being true, since there has been nothing to say otherwise...(Issac Newton showed it in the 17th century, and hasn't changed much since)

there are still a lot of holes in the ToR, and even more with Quantum sciences coming into the picture...


That's why one is a law and the other a theory... But the fact that the theory has been known and proven to be the exception to the law... Simply means that there is still a universal constant that has not been included in the formula... And that may prove to be neither time nor gravity.... Which is what I wanted to point out in my earlier post...

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Wed 02/25/15 08:37 PM





Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?


no, not really, i just think the theory or relativity should be reexamined...

i don't think it(ToR) is correct... but lots of people a lot smarter than me think it is, so...

the law of gravity has more proof to being true, since there has been nothing to say otherwise...(Issac Newton showed it in the 17th century, and hasn't changed much since)

there are still a lot of holes in the ToR, and even more with Quantum sciences coming into the picture...


That's why one is a law and the other a theory... But the fact that the theory has been known and proven to be the exception to the law... Simply means that there is still a universal constant that has not been included in the formula... And that may prove to be neither time nor gravity.... Which is what I wanted to point out in my earlier post...


very true, it's a very big universe out there, and we can't know much from our little corner of it...

tommy lee jones made a quote once that relates to that:

1000 years ago, we knew the earth was the center of the universe
400 years ago, we knew the earth was flat
what will we know tomorrow?

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Wed 02/25/15 08:46 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Wed 02/25/15 08:48 PM






Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?


no, not really, i just think the theory or relativity should be reexamined...

i don't think it(ToR) is correct... but lots of people a lot smarter than me think it is, so...

the law of gravity has more proof to being true, since there has been nothing to say otherwise...(Issac Newton showed it in the 17th century, and hasn't changed much since)

there are still a lot of holes in the ToR, and even more with Quantum sciences coming into the picture...


That's why one is a law and the other a theory... But the fact that the theory has been known and proven to be the exception to the law... Simply means that there is still a universal constant that has not been included in the formula... And that may prove to be neither time nor gravity.... Which is what I wanted to point out in my earlier post...


very true, it's a very big universe out there, and we can't know much from our little corner of it...

tommy lee jones made a quote once that relates to that:

1000 years ago, we knew the earth was the center of the universe
400 years ago, we knew the earth was flat
what will we know tomorrow?


Probably that what we know now just confused us from what we knew before, which was all that we needed to know after all .... :laughing: such is the irony of humanity... slaphead and that we just keep circumventing the inevitable in order to justify our vanities of knowledge and understanding...

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Thu 02/26/15 08:43 AM
This is where watching the movie 'Groundhog Day' has an important lesson.

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Thu 02/26/15 09:05 AM
What I'm really curious about is how to visually describe wind expressed in time together with speed, magnetic gravity, and sub atomic particles, in a quantum formula.

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Thu 02/26/15 10:27 AM

One must not confuse Mass with Size or Weight!

For example; A pound of Popcorn (In A Bag) occupies much greater space than a pound of Cheese, but they both have the same collective mass.
Cheese tastes much better on toast though Sheik? ha ha

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Thu 02/26/15 10:32 AM






Hence time is an arbitrary value we assign to a concept we made for ourselves to assist us in justifying the value of our lives...?

But Wouldn't that make just about every concept in physics also an arbitrary concept and value also? Including gravity? Hehe.. My weight may just be my perception of how fast my mass is moving in the general direction of the earth's core... Hahaha

I thought gravity was also dependent on rotation...?


yes and no - for time, yes, gravity no... anywhere on earth you will weigh the same, but on the moon you would weigh less, and on jupiter you would weigh more... rotation has nothing to do with gravitational pull, only the mass of the planet..

but i'm not sure about gravity at the core, not that it would matter much, since it's about the same temperature as the sun...


Ah yes... I had to review that fact.. laugh been a while... ohwell

So you subscribe that the law of gravity superseded the theory of relativity in all things?


no, not really, i just think the theory or relativity should be reexamined...

i don't think it(ToR) is correct... but lots of people a lot smarter than me think it is, so...

the law of gravity has more proof to being true, since there has been nothing to say otherwise...(Issac Newton showed it in the 17th century, and hasn't changed much since)

there are still a lot of holes in the ToR, and even more with Quantum sciences coming into the picture...


That's why one is a law and the other a theory... But the fact that the theory has been known and proven to be the exception to the law... Simply means that there is still a universal constant that has not been included in the formula... And that may prove to be neither time nor gravity.... Which is what I wanted to point out in my earlier post...


very true, it's a very big universe out there, and we can't know much from our little corner of it...

tommy lee jones made a quote once that relates to that:

1000 years ago, we knew the earth was the center of the universe
400 years ago, we knew the earth was flat
what will we know tomorrow?
That it's pay out wages day and hear all the excuses under the sun why my employees can't work on sunday? ha ha, same thing every week Moe!

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