Topic: Muslim terrorists just like Muhammad
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Mon 01/12/15 01:34 PM
What hadiths would You condone?

What rape would You condone?

Are You open to any agreement?

If I can tell You what the source of the problem is... What would You do to implement overcoming its action?

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Mon 01/12/15 01:56 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Mon 01/12/15 02:02 PM

What hadiths would You condone?

What rape would You condone?

Are You open to any agreement?

If I can tell You what the source of the problem is... What would You do to implement overcoming its action?


1. I do NOT condone any "reports" of statements or actions of Muhammad...
or any other teachings based on outdated manmade scriptures.

2. I will NEVER condone rape

3. I am open... Not to agree, only to acknowledge your opinion.

4. I would do what needs to be done!

EDIT*

How many depictions of your prophet Mohammed would it take for you to hate me Sheik?

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Mon 01/12/15 02:02 PM
I regret not being able to read all of what is on the previous page as the entire left side has been blacked-out due to reasons beyond my control. (Probably Another Virus)

I've noticed that as soon as I'm able to say anything others may resent... I'm hacked!

It could very well be these HUGE pictures that others are capable of putting on these pages somehow disrupt the width of the page.

Is JOHNN111 finished making accusations about me? Is he still on line?

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Mon 01/12/15 02:06 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Mon 01/12/15 02:09 PM
laugh Don't take it too personal Sheik... the accusations are directed at your religion drinker



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Mon 01/12/15 02:17 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Mon 01/12/15 02:19 PM
Ahh! There You are!

To be perfectly frank with You Johnn, I don't give a rat's-azz about how many cartoons You or anybody else would like to make of Mohammad.

He's already in his eternal reward and I'm pretty certain he doesn't care either.

Enjoy your time in this life, but remember, it doesn't exempt You or anybody else from being accountable for slander or bogus statements when standing before the Almighty on judgment day.

So, what else do You or anybody else know for a certainty about Mohammad?

Go ahead... Humour me! spock

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Mon 01/12/15 02:26 PM
Mohammad loves painting...?

Great, so do I.

For the record, I like tasteful sculpture too.

I just don't need to venerate them.

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Mon 01/12/15 02:39 PM
This is my last post on the subject Sheik.

"the Almighty" will perhaps judge me on my good deeds... maybe not? I'm not concerned, I'm too busy making the world a better place for my neighbors, friends and family. To Not turn a blind eye to the suffering and do my part as well as I possibly can.

Certainty about Mohammed????


Hahaha that's a good one! no such thing laugh

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Mon 01/12/15 02:40 PM

I regret not being able to read all of what is on the previous page as the entire left side has been blacked-out due to reasons beyond my control. (Probably Another Virus)

I've noticed that as soon as I'm able to say anything others may resent... I'm hacked!

It could very well be these HUGE pictures that others are capable of putting on these pages somehow disrupt the width of the page.

Is JOHNN111 finished making accusations about me? Is he still on line?


yes if the file size too large the picture will make it hard to read all of the print. Click reply and you can see the whole statement in the response window and you can erase the picture url from the response window so that it will not appear in your reply. Sometimes the mods eventually come along and re-size those pictures which is very thoughtful.

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Mon 01/12/15 02:50 PM
I think there is valid concern about the silence of Muslims regarding the behavior of radical Islam. As an American I cannot but defend the freedom of speech and of the press, and our Constitution's wisdom in keeping religion out of government. As an American I wonder if the silence from non radical Muslims is dressed in fear of groups like ISIS.

Also, as an American I will support the defense of innocents like the journalists in France. Or anywhere where these freedoms are abridged, especially when these freedoms are part of the rights of citizens in a nation like France, or the United States.

Basically here we say that while I might not like what you are saying, I will defend your right to say it.



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Mon 01/12/15 02:56 PM
Thank You Sweetestgirl1,

I've not very computer savvy, so I'm often at a loss to know what to do.

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Mon 01/12/15 02:57 PM

More have died in the name of religion than for any other reason known to man!


Sure, you can repeat that urban legend, but can you cite evidence supporting it?


you don't have google david?



People who make a claim are responsible for citing evidence for that claim.


because you say so?

you have thought provoking posts assuredly. but most of that stuff I learned in high school....and I agree with sojourning soul...

that does not make ISIS ok tho....agreed there too. It is in my opinion NOT ok to defame and ridicule others's religions. While I do not think retribution is OK, (I am a Christian so retribution is NOT OK), I also believe in freedom of speech and the press and hold those values dearly as an American. So, I don't really think the french press was at all classy in this matter, I abhor the radical actions taken. Just simply NO EXCUSE.

But personally I have no interested in denigrating Mohammad or Islam. I have no interest in either one either way.

I just don;t see the point in getting all excited about it one way or the other. these terrorist guys should find real jobs....whoa

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Mon 01/12/15 02:57 PM

Enjoy your time in this life, but remember, it doesn't exempt You or anybody else from being accountable for slander or bogus statements when standing before the Almighty on judgment day.



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Mon 01/12/15 03:14 PM

I regret not being able to read all of what is on the previous page as the entire left side has been blacked-out due to reasons beyond my control. (Probably Another Virus)

I've noticed that as soon as I'm able to say anything others may resent... I'm hacked!

It could very well be these HUGE pictures that others are capable of putting on these pages somehow disrupt the width of the page.

Is JOHNN111 finished making accusations about me? Is he still on line?


not a virus, someone put a pic on there to big... there's a scroll bar at the bottom to scroll right and left

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Mon 01/12/15 03:31 PM
Germany, now too...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/11/uk-germany-newspaper-attack-idUKKBN0KK04J20150111

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Mon 01/12/15 03:34 PM

I think there is valid concern about the silence of Muslims regarding the behavior of radical Islam. As an American I cannot but defend the freedom of speech and of the press, and our Constitution's wisdom in keeping religion out of government. As an American I wonder if the silence from non radical Muslims is addressed in fear of groups like ISIS.

Also, as an American I will support the defense of innocents like the journalists in France. Or anywhere where these freedoms are abridged, especially when these freedoms are part of the rights of citizens in a nation like France, or the United States.

Basically here we say that while I might not like what you are saying, I will defend your right to say it.





Yes, this is an interesting point. There seems to be a problem with the Muslim community as a whole to be able to regulate what level of passive action should be exercised. I've always lived by the belief that when being offended, One should 'turn the other cheek' if I can make reference to Jesus' advice on persecution. But apparently, even the Christian community has a hard time advocating this as well.

So, to what extent should anybody have to be abused by someone else?
Should people be aloud to be stolen from, raped, torched, murdered?

I'm reminded of very dignified looking Croatian soldiers that if you'd seen them, you'd think they were U.S. Marines.
They were given the order to kill all Moslems they encountered, both young and old. The wives and daughters of child-bearing years were incarcerated and systematically raped till they were pregnant. Then the solders butted their cigarettes out on them and told them to leave. Nine months later, the hospitals were brimming with bastard children and as soon as the women had strength... They walked right out again.

All we ever got about in our western news was, 'Look at the gorilla fighting Muslims!'

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Mon 01/12/15 03:37 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 01/12/15 03:38 PM
DUBAI (Reuters) - A prominent Saudi Arabian cleric has whipped up controversy by issuing a religious ruling forbidding the building of snowmen, described them as anti-Islamic.

Asked on a religious website if it was permissible for fathers to build snowmen for their children after a snowstorm in the country's north, Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Munajjid replied: "It is not permitted to make a statue out of snow, even by way of play and fun."

Quoting from Muslim scholars, Sheikh Munajjid argued that to build a snowman was to create an image of a human being, an action considered sinful under the kingdom's strict interpretation of Sunni Islam.

"God has given people space to make whatever they want which does not have a soul, including trees, ships, fruits, buildings and so on," he wrote in his ruling.

That provoked swift responses from Twitter users writing in Arabic and identifying themselves with Arab names.

"They are afraid for their faith of everything ... sick minds," one Twitter user wrote.

Another posted a photo of a man in formal Arab garb holding the arm of a "snow bride" wearing a bra and lipstick. "The reason for the ban is fear of sedition," he wrote.

A third said the country was plagued by two types of people:

"A people looking for a fatwa (religious ruling) for everything in their lives, and a cleric who wants to interfere in everything in the lives of others through a fatwa," the user wrote.

Sheikh Munajjid had some supporters, however. "It (building snowmen) is imitating the infidels, it promotes lustiness and eroticism," one wrote.

"May God preserve the scholars, for they enjoy sharp vision and recognize matters that even Satan does not think about."

Snow has covered upland areas of Tabuk province near Saudi Arabia's border with Jordan for the third consecutive year as cold weather swept across the Middle East.

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-cleric-condemns-snowmen-anti-islamic-125135293.html

the insanity continues...

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Mon 01/12/15 03:49 PM

Dear Maxisu,

I don't approve of people who act in a hasty way either. I do find it sad and frustrating when I see any person who claims they come in behalf of any commonly perceived idea of theology and with some half-baked ideas decide they're going to take matters into there own hands. For example, I don't assume every so-claiming Christian is a member of the K.K.K. or have spent time at the Jones Town Cult Camp.

So, how do I personally think this campaign against the would-be Muslim factions that seem to cause so-much problem?
The only way to counteract isn't by a military strategy, but by proposing a better platform for what Islam is supposed to be. In doing so, this will appeal to the very consciences of the members of these individuals who, although they may have good reason to be disgruntled, will find themselves unable to act in a hasty way. The truth of the matter is, there are so few minimum prerequisites that a free and open society would need to implement, even if One doesn't want to practice Islam themselves, that the entire War Budget that has been spent to date is a hundred fold greater than it need ever have been, and it wouldn't have cost any soldiers lives either.

Please don't assume every defensive act on the part of the Muslim community, because it may very well be a legitimately defensive action, is somehow a terrorist act. Just because some sources of media that all to often think it's okay to show the retaliation of people who are fighting for their lives, and never show the atrocities of the enemies whom they fighting against, are somehow exempt from their bias. That's when free-speech just becomes propaganda.


Test: I also had a big black stripe on the far right...so quoting helps to read....but I'm not sure I understand your last paragraph.
I'd say extremists "Al Quaeda, ISIS, clearly use Propaganda...and seemingly want to brainwash all those kids. I mean I saw that with my own eyes in Turkey...where a DJ friend of mine got regular visits from some guy trying to convert him.
At first I was able to reason him...then he scared him with ghosts and what not...and someone I thought reasonable...turned to Muslim faith to be "protected" from "the bad spirits"...a couple of days before I left.

He joined cause he was scared.

I already thought the Scientologists were pretty bad with their techniques but THAT was quite something.

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Mon 01/12/15 03:51 PM
I find this about not being able to make a snowman ridicules.

I've seen pictures of a mosque with lions all around a ablution fountain holding the basin up. It was hundreds of years old.

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Mon 01/12/15 03:56 PM

DUBAI (Reuters) - A prominent Saudi Arabian cleric has whipped up controversy by issuing a religious ruling forbidding the building of snowmen, described them as anti-Islamic.

Asked on a religious website if it was permissible for fathers to build snowmen for their children after a snowstorm in the country's north, Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Munajjid replied: "It is not permitted to make a statue out of snow, even by way of play and fun."

Quoting from Muslim scholars, Sheikh Munajjid argued that to build a snowman was to create an image of a human being, an action considered sinful under the kingdom's strict interpretation of Sunni Islam.

"God has given people space to make whatever they want which does not have a soul, including trees, ships, fruits, buildings and so on," he wrote in his ruling.

That provoked swift responses from Twitter users writing in Arabic and identifying themselves with Arab names.

"They are afraid for their faith of everything ... sick minds," one Twitter user wrote.

Another posted a photo of a man in formal Arab garb holding the arm of a "snow bride" wearing a bra and lipstick. "The reason for the ban is fear of sedition," he wrote.

A third said the country was plagued by two types of people:

"A people looking for a fatwa (religious ruling) for everything in their lives, and a cleric who wants to interfere in everything in the lives of others through a fatwa," the user wrote.

Sheikh Munajjid had some supporters, however. "It (building snowmen) is imitating the infidels, it promotes lustiness and eroticism," one wrote.

"May God preserve the scholars, for they enjoy sharp vision and recognize matters that even Satan does not think about."

Snow has covered upland areas of Tabuk province near Saudi Arabia's border with Jordan for the third consecutive year as cold weather swept across the Middle East.

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-cleric-condemns-snowmen-anti-islamic-125135293.html

the insanity continues...


laugh

Sure it promotes lustiness and eroticism....


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Mon 01/12/15 03:59 PM

I find this about not being able to make a snowman ridicules.

I've seen pictures of a mosque with lions all around a ablution fountain holding the basin up. It was hundreds of years old.


most of types of killings like in France usually are clerics making "fatwa's", edicts pertaining to how Islam should be interpreted...

the people doing the killings are dim witted followers that cannot think for themselves..

from the snowman article: ""A people looking for a fatwa (religious ruling) for everything in their lives, and a cleric who wants to interfere in everything in the lives of others through a fatwa"