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Topic: A Religion Of Peace Or Pure Evil?
Toks88's photo
Tue 01/20/15 03:47 PM
It's been long I posted on this General Religion Forum, but seeing the below quotes moved me to post these. It's shocking you can google these verses in the koran to confirm and can also correct me if am wrong:

koran 47:4 Do not hanker for peace with
the infidels; behead them when you catch
them.

koran 2:191 Slay unbelievers wherever you
find them.

koran 22:19 Punish the unbelievers with
garments of fire, hooked iron rods boiling
water; melt their skin and bellies.

koran 8:12 Terrorize and behead those
who believe in scriptures other than the
Qur’an.

koran 9:5 When opportunity arises kill the
infidels wherever you catch them.

koran 5:33 Maim and crucify the infidels if
they criticize Islam.

koran 9:123 Make war on the infidels living
in your neighborhood.

koran 8:60 Muslims must muster all
weapons to terrorize the infidels.

koran 8:65 The unbelievers are stupid;
urge the Muslims to fight them.

koran 3:85 Any religion other than Islam is
not acceptable.

koran 3:28 Muslims must not take the
infidels as friends.

koran 9:30 The Jews and the Christians are
perverts; fight them.

Summary of Sura verses dealing with
dismemberment, homosexual and
heterosexual pedophilia endorsed, allah is
all deceiving, allah is unforgiving even to
the repentant infidel.

koran Sura just means chapterkoran Sura
5:35 and Sura 8:12 Sura 9:5

koran Sura 9:80 no forgiveness

koran Sura 9:123 Murder the unbelievers
around you and let them find harshness in
you

koran Sura 13:42 ...Allah is all deceiving
(the Bible tells us that the father of lies is
Satan)

koran Sura 47:4 Clash with the unbelievers
and smite their necks

koran Sura 52:24 Male homosexual
Pedophilia endorsed

koran Sura 56:17 Male homosexual
pedophilia

koran Sura 65:4 Prescribes sex with pre
pubescent girls.

koran Sura 76:19 Male homosexual
pedophilia.

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Tue 01/20/15 04:00 PM
Scarcely, is a single quote even anything remotely from the Quran.

Bogus, through and through!

Anybody with a computer can easily look-up several translations of the Quran and confirm that you're a complete liar.

Toks88's photo
Tue 01/20/15 04:08 PM

Scarcely, is a single quote even anything remotely from the Quran.

Bogus, through and through!

Anybody with a computer can easily look-up several translations of the Quran and confirm that you're a complete liar.


Alright.

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Tue 01/20/15 04:22 PM
Toks88, Is this compilation Your own doing or did You get this load of crap from somebody else?

That would be forgivable... A plea that You haven't actually confirmed these passages Yourself.

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Tue 01/20/15 04:28 PM

Toks88, Is this compilation Your own doing or did You get this load of crap from somebody else?

That would be forgivable... A plea that You haven't actually confirmed these passages Yourself.


Actually, it's from someone else.

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Tue 01/20/15 04:37 PM
Toks88, do Yourself a favour and avoid the person who has given You these references.

Such a person obviously doesn't have Your best interests at heart.


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Tue 01/20/15 05:09 PM
Toks, please I have someone I would love for you to talk to and I would also love to share some things I have been learning about Islam. From one Christian to another. I will send you some things privately thru Facebook my friend.

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Tue 01/20/15 05:49 PM
yea, toks, you might wanna look those up, if you want to know what they really say...

the quran itself is a good book, the problem lies in the fatwas, or edicts from the higher clerics that define muslim laws...

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Tue 01/20/15 06:03 PM
Edited by kthnxbye on Tue 01/20/15 06:06 PM
I saw where an Imam (sp? like I care anyway ) said if a woman gets raped , it's 90% her fault. Really? Also , saw a few 100 thousand of them dancing in the streets after 9/11 .Then there was this dude in this very forum getting all bent because he demanded respect after somebody said something about a burka . Then the sick messages from Middle Easterners to our models at the mag. Why in the hell would I want to respect anything like that? Convert or die? A few of 'em are gonna go down with me if they try to kill me ..

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Tue 01/20/15 06:11 PM

yea, toks, you might wanna look those up, if you want to know what they really say...

the quran itself is a good book, the problem lies in the fatwas, or edicts from the higher clerics that define muslim laws...


Thank You Mightymoe!

This is as I've said before... All too often these other would-be Muslims that refer to Hadiths rather than the Quran.

Remember, these are the ones whom I've coined 'Hadithites' rather than actual Muslims.

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Tue 01/20/15 06:20 PM
Well realcarebear...

It has been over an hour since your kind invitation to Toks88, but I think he was more indignant at the contemptible wretch who gave him that list.

I was hoping you'd like to talk to me though.

I'll not request conversation with You again unless You chose to.

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Tue 01/20/15 07:30 PM

Well realcarebear...

It has been over an hour since your kind invitation to Toks88, but I think he was more indignant at the contemptible wretch who gave him that list.

I was hoping you'd like to talk to me though.

I'll not request conversation with You again unless You chose to.


Sorry for responding late. I hop off and on mingle. I've two young children that keep me very busy.

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Tue 01/20/15 08:03 PM
Hello, I was hoping You'd respond.

I was looking at your Mingle Profile and I had noticed You are a Methodist and I was wondering if there's much difference between that congregation and Presbyterians.

(I little off-topic, I admit)

Toks88's photo
Tue 01/20/15 10:29 PM

Toks, please I have someone I would love for you to talk to and I would also love to share some things I have been learning about Islam. From one Christian to another. I will send you some things privately thru Facebook my friend.


Alright Carrie, I'll be waiting.

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Wed 01/21/15 03:51 AM

I saw where an Imam (sp? like I care anyway ) said if a woman gets raped , it's 90% her fault. Really?

89.3% actually

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 01/21/15 04:50 AM

yea, toks, you might wanna look those up, if you want to know what they really say...

the quran itself is a good book, the problem lies in the fatwas, or edicts from the higher clerics that define muslim laws...

they are an intricate Part of it,and actually a Muslim who doesn't adhere to them is as much an Infidel as any other Unbeliever!

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Wed 01/21/15 12:48 PM


yea, toks, you might wanna look those up, if you want to know what they really say...

the quran itself is a good book, the problem lies in the fatwas, or edicts from the higher clerics that define muslim laws...

they are an intricate Part of it,and actually a Muslim who doesn't adhere to them is as much an Infidel as any other Unbeliever!


Why Conrad, I didn't think You were a Muslim cleric! :laughing:

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Wed 01/21/15 02:00 PM
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).

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Wed 01/21/15 02:35 PM

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).



This is a Hadith.

It's been my observation with Hadiths... The longer they are, the greater the likelihood they're not believable. The shorter they are, the greater the likelihood they've any merit.

As a general rule, I don't use any at all because the entire register of Hadith are so huge that nobody would ever be able to cull through all of them.

Here in is the problem... Why would anybody want to make their religion more complicated then it need be?


TBRich's photo
Wed 01/21/15 02:56 PM


On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).



This is a Hadith.

It's been my observation with Hadiths... The longer they are, the greater the likelihood they're not believable. The shorter they are, the greater the likelihood they've any merit.

As a general rule, I don't use any at all because the entire register of Hadith are so huge that nobody would ever be able to cull through all of them.

Here in is the problem... Why would anybody want to make their religion more complicated then it need be?




Sheik Yer Booty! Yes it is Hadith- why does no one quote these verses? I find this verse as almost hidden in many religious texts. Sometimes I point them out and do you know how most people response? They do not believe it refers to them. These verses remind me of Hope quietly whispering to mankind to be let out of Pandora's box. Shhh, be still, be quiet- can you hear what is being said?

My Mercy prevails over My Wrath

and

For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
Isaiah 54:9

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