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Topic: Baptism, do we need to be baptized to be saved
Oriental314's photo
Wed 04/08/15 12:28 AM
Hello everyone,I'm new here and have a question about baptism..can you still be saved without baptized?

Rennz61's photo
Wed 04/08/15 12:43 AM
Hi there, yes you can be saved without being baptized, salvation usually comes first then baptism in water and baptism in the Holy Spirit follows after, cheers

Oriental314's photo
Wed 04/08/15 01:04 AM
Hello Rennz,nice to meet you..I'm so confuse with this matter? Cuz Jesus said you have to be born again....and in order to you have to be baptized..right..

Ladywind7's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:25 AM
There are two baptisms. Baptism by water and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. May I ask which baptism you are confused about?

Ladywind7's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:35 AM
Being born again is accepting what Jesus did for you at the cross, (He died for all our wrongdoings). Repenting for your wrongdoings and then asking God to be the Lord of your life.
This will spiritually make you now born again into Christ.
You will be saved, but still pursue both baptisms as yes we are commanded to do so.
It does not stop there though. It is a daily walk, reading the bible, praying and growing in knowledge and faith.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:37 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Wed 04/08/15 05:37 AM
Acts 2:38 New International Version (NIV)

38 Peter replied, ��Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:43 AM
Water baptism is a work, and no work can save you.

In his book The Holy Spirit, Dr. Billy Graham describes spiritual baptism as something that happens when one becomes born again.

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Wed 04/08/15 05:44 AM
Edited by SassyEuro on Wed 04/08/15 05:48 AM

Hello everyone,I'm new here and have a question about baptism..can you still be saved without baptized?
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Being saved is the acceptance that Christ died for your sins.
Went to hell for 3 days to pay for you.
Rose from the dead
Ascended into heaven.
And sitting on the right hand of God, The Father, All mighty

Bapistism is a voluntary act of obedience & dedicating your life.
And requesting that the Holy Spirit join you & guide you.
The Holy Spirit is the presence of Christ on Earth.

:angel:



Ladywind7's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:53 AM

Acts 2:38 New International Version (NIV)

38 Peter replied, ��Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Perfect scripture, thanks for posting that bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:55 AM


Acts 2:38 New International Version (NIV)

38 Peter replied, ��Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Perfect scripture, thanks for posting that bigsmile


I have my moments laugh flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/08/15 05:58 AM
A couple more for thought

Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. (NLT, Matthew 28:19)

And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned. (NLT, Mark 16:15-16)

Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 04/08/15 09:13 AM
Hi. Just adding my voice to the several.

Water baptism does not save. It is a step you take after being born again in affirmation of what has taken place in your life. Salvation takes place because of the penalty Jesus has paid. When we are immersed in water, we symbolize that we have died with Christ and in being raised from the same water, we symbolize that we are also risen with HIM.

And to be more direct, I went to a church (as a child) where the determinant factor for who was a real member of the church or true Christian was baptism by immersion. But this is not the Biblical position - as others have explained. The bible teaches salvation first and then baptism.

The Bible instructs all Christians to be baptized after they are saved. Therefore, if you are already born again, seek the opportunity to get baptized - in obedience to God's word.

God bless you.

Oriental314's photo
Wed 04/08/15 10:37 AM
Hello everyone and thank you for making this clear to me.now I'm more certain about this matter. I have accepted Jesus not long ago but have yet baptize. I keep having this feeling inside me about baptized and I still in search of the right church and true minister..i appreciate all good advices you all point out for me..

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Wed 04/08/15 10:55 AM
Edited by uche9aa on Wed 04/08/15 10:56 AM

Hello everyone and thank you for making this clear to me.now I'm more certain about this matter. I have accepted Jesus not long ago but have yet baptize. I keep having this feeling inside me about baptized and I still in search of the right church and true minister..i appreciate all good advices you all point out for me..
Congrat.In your searching for "right church and true minister" Pray and tell God to lead you and direct your steps to a genuine bible believing,holiness believing and prayerful church whose only authority is the bible and bible alone.Shalom!

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Wed 04/08/15 11:03 AM
Correct!smile

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/08/15 12:12 PM


And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned. (NLT, Mark 16:15-16)


Maybe I am not understanding some posts but as I read this you believe AND be baptisted to be saved. Am I missing something

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Wed 04/08/15 03:05 PM



And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned. (NLT, Mark 16:15-16)


Maybe I am not understanding some posts but as I read this you believe AND be baptisted to be saved. Am I missing something


It doesn't surprise me that someone would quote from the extended ending of Mark's Gospel, an extended ending that Mark did not write.

References:
http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/eq/2nd_gospel_bruce.pdf
http://www.oxfordbiblicalstudies.com/article/opr/t94/e1203
Bruce M Metzger, A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament. p. 126:
"Thus, on the basis of good external evidence and strong internal considerations it appears that the earliest ascertainable form of the Gospel of Mark ended with 16:8. Three possibilities are open: (a) the evangelist intended to close his Gospel at this place; or (b) the Gospel was never finished; or, as seems most probable, (c) the Gospel accidentally lost its last leaf before it was multiplied by transcription."

Oriental314's photo
Thu 04/09/15 02:42 AM


Congrat.In your searching for "right church and true minister" Pray and tell God to lead you and direct your steps to a genuine bible believing,holiness believing and prayerful church whose only authority is the bible and bible alone.Shalom!

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And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned. (NLT, Mark 16:15-16)



Maybe I am not understanding some posts but as I read this you believe AND be baptisted to be saved. Am I missing something


is this mean IT isn't matter which church I get baptize?
so long I'm baptize I'm saved!!!!
what I know and understand is that Apostle Paul also warned us about being baptized into the wrong name...

Ladywind7's photo
Thu 04/09/15 06:15 AM



Congrat.In your searching for "right church and true minister" Pray and tell God to lead you and direct your steps to a genuine bible believing,holiness believing and prayerful church whose only authority is the bible and bible alone.Shalom!

QUOTE:



And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned. (NLT, Mark 16:15-16)



Maybe I am not understanding some posts but as I read this you believe AND be baptisted to be saved. Am I missing something


is this mean IT isn't matter which church I get baptize?
so long I'm baptize I'm saved!!!!
what I know and understand is that Apostle Paul also warned us about being baptized into the wrong name...


You are already saved if you have given over your life to God.

Oriental314's photo
Fri 04/10/15 12:49 AM
QUOTE:

You are already saved if you have given over your life to God

Thank you!!!

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