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Topic: New World Race Relationships
2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:45 PM
Edited by 2Fly4Wings38 on Wed 05/13/15 01:50 PM
Hello again, sorry it took me some time to post new topic I just been crazy busy outside my web home of mingle2. Once again shot outs to all my Opinion Minions" out here but I want to talk about something new & fresh & a topic which I like to think its a favorable cup of my hot tea. Okay, America come a long way when I say the relations today is a lot better than the colonial days of the native American land took over to black slavery, to civil rights era in the 60's to now. My question to all is " think about it before you answer & post" How you feel about when a white man courts a black woman or a black man marries a Latino woman, or an Asian man walking & holding hands with a Far East Indian woman, and so fourth. I had a friend " An African American woman " of mines told me she didn't have a problem when the relationship is black & Latino, or white & Asian but when it comes to black & white dating its hurts her and anger her. Some may say " Hey its the new millennium, America is one big coloring book now so get over it" I agree. I don't know maybe me being from Germany I have no problem with different races marrying or dating. I have a son half Latino and my youngest is half Asian. I love my boys and they know what but most important who they are. If they come home with a girl from another race & they really love or like them & the girls treat them right then I'm happy dad you'll know. think we can learn from each other and that's beautiful. Then some say think about the children, what they have to go thru, my kids are bi racial and they are very happy & normal. so what side of the coin are you ? Are you for this American live in color or are you against the whole ideal so let your man know okay how you feel about this...remember no hatting ones opinion we all walking down different roads so lets meet at this cross road together. later gators!

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:48 PM
It's a matter of preference, as far as I am concerned. If someone makes you happy and good for you...that's what matters. We all have preferences. Who cares? JMO

2469nascar's photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:51 PM
dont care,,its 2015 ,some ppl will always hate,,some will never let things go,,witch one are you?

no photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:53 PM
but I want to talk about something new & fresh


Well, a race relationship topic isn't new and fresh and has pretty much been beat to death on here. Just saying.

2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:53 PM
you know I totally agree with you , I ain't going to lie I been with women from other cultures and I truly at the time loved them and would do anything for them...regardless if they was Spanish, White & Asian.

2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 01:57 PM
I'm from Germany, the racism in Europe is nothing like America's racism. in Europe I'm German not a black man. I wasn't a black man until I got to the states. love to me is not boundaries, no boxes with margins, no visual. Would I marry or date a white woman yes if she's a replica of me with the same common interest and loves me. yes , why not.

2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:02 PM
to 249, I'm on the side of coming together so all to say I'm team Fruitopia....lol

SitkaRains's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:16 PM
I am so confused I thought we answered this race thang.. in your other thread.

In this world we are all intermingled with our DNA..Even the aborigines are no longer pure, so the racism and hate etc are IMO a moot point.

There is no one that can state they are pure DNA or said culture...

So everyone is attracted to what they like..
whether is a
blonde blue eyed
red head green eyed
ebony skin and yellow eyes


it is all preference doesn't matter anymore. We like what we like IMO

2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:23 PM
yes I agree as well I never touched this this is all new to me. I guess it comes down to America in a lot of way s still needs more work on this, then again I think the people of mingle are good people and love who they love and I totally with the ideal of how you feel. I brought this up because by popular demand I had friends and co workers disagree with the whole new world dating concept. I wanted to hear it from the outer circle of my surroundings , so I thought this would be interesting.

2Fly4Wings38's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:23 PM
yes I agree as well I never touched this this is all new to me. I guess it comes down to America in a lot of way s still needs more work on this, then again I think the people of mingle are good people and love who they love and I totally with the ideal of how you feel. I brought this up because by popular demand I had friends and co workers disagree with the whole new world dating concept. I wanted to hear it from the outer circle of my surroundings , so I thought this would be interesting.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:31 PM
So Europe doesn't see you as a black man? I see you are just like I am white woman. Maybe America doesn't think of coubtry because it's a mettling pot with many different countries here. It's not racist to see someone's skin color or gender.

Maybe I am confused at the post

SitkaRains's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:32 PM

. I guess it comes down to America in a lot of way s still needs more work on this,



I AM an "American"... I see the other countries have more hatred over "faith" which leads me to ask is dying for your faith which everyone in my opinion has a right to or someone not dating you because of race which is worse.

In my little corner of the world race, faith, doesn't really come into the whole scheme of things. WE all work, live, and survive together..



Rock's photo
Wed 05/13/15 02:55 PM
I prefer offroad racing.
That's my preference.

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/13/15 03:17 PM
2fly, I think alot of the reason that bigotry is different in europe is because of its different history

if you think about it people there are often multilingual too but that is because they are exposed much more often to other countries, being that their countries are as close as our states to one another

I believe that there is similarly much more of a historical conflict between the countries of europe than the countris of north america

so that the national heritage has much more historical significance within europe than racial heritage has here in north america,,,\\..but to the op

I say so long as a man and woman love each other, I really dont see any difference from one relationship to another

no photo
Wed 05/13/15 05:59 PM
America come a long way

That implies a potential destination.
A long way...towards what?

relations today is a lot better than the colonial days of the native American land took over to black slavery, to civil rights era in the 60's to now.

We've just shifted things, haven't we?
There are more people in slavery, on a global basis, now than there ever have been before.
Child labor, sex trafficking, immigrant labor (u.s. beef industry anyone?).
And that doesn't include any kind of debt slavery that exists in the u.s.
Lots of slavery going round. Just not the agricultural t.v. movie of the week sensationalized beating on the stereotype kind.

We killed most of the Indians.
Now we're at war with the middle east and parts of africa.
Killing a bunch of them. Anymore, we're always killing something.

So...America has come a long way...to where?
Is it just about making black people happy while we all find someone else to do the same ol' **** to? Specifically identifying and including black people in some sort of national "group" and allowing them as a separate group to participate in and perpetuate the slaving and the killing done and supported everywhere else?

How you feel about when a white man courts a black woman or a black man marries a Latino woman, or an Asian man walking & holding hands with a Far East Indian woman, and so fourth

Depends.
Am I trying to "court" the woman?
Are either of them in direct competition with me for a job or resources?
Do they belong to any organizations that have been shown to be dangerous to me in thoughts or actions?
Is their desire for a relationship directly costing me money?

If not, then I don't care.
Other than that, I don't think anyone should court anyone else unless I get first pick. But I don't really have the power to enforce that...so....

Are you for this American live in color

I'm for an America with a smaller government (i.e. less social programs and taxes), with less international presence, less hypocrisy perpetuated in large part by rewriting history and pretending society changes from the top down or there will one day be some kind of utopia full of harmony where everyone has bred into a shade of gray and no one will care that no one is different.

Really, I don't care who dates whom as long as I can get dates.
If no one ever ever ever ever wants to date me, then I'm gonna be looking for a scapegoat using whatever reason other people will agree with so I can feel some sense of group validation...since I won't be able to get it from a date.

I wasn't a black man until I got to the states

I heard a line like that from an English guy in a documentary on racism in Africa a long time ago. ...Of not seeing himself as a "black" man until he went to Africa. Before that he was just "some guy" or "some English bloke."


I guess it comes down to America in a lot of way s still needs more work on this

IMO it doesn't need "work."
Society will change to whatever will keep it together to be the most stable.
The more you try to force change, the quicker you attempt to push change, the more you are going to cause resentment and people to pick a side and ultimately defend it, all while giving lip service to whatever they are being forced to say/do.

And the more laws you pass to try and force a belief, the more loopholes people can exploit to get out of it, and the less they will look at their motives or consequences to what they are doing.
Also, the more they will scapegoat the reason they have to look for the loopholes.



regularfeller's photo
Wed 05/13/15 06:27 PM
I am A Frickin' American and criticizing someone for having a racial preference in romantic relationships is tantamount to criticizing them for having a gender preference.

Way I figure things is if we all spent less time minding other people's business we'd have more time to tend to our own.

I really ain't too concerned who is holding hands with who. It ain't my concern as it has nothing to do with me.

Just OBEBO (Oughta Be Every Bodies Opinion - HEY! My acronym is a palindrome! :banana: )



2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Wed 05/13/15 07:00 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Wed 05/13/15 07:03 PM
Since I've not had this discussion with you or any one else here it's a new topic/subject for me and interesting to read what other members have to say and what they think; so this may be a redundant discussion to you folks but it's not for us newbies! Not yet anyway!

Color/Race/Ethnic - age/body size/faith - regional politics/relations/demographics...all things that can either define us as uniquely human and draw us together or provide a sharp contrast for rebuke/avoidance/distain and collective cohesive group social building!

During my fathers era: his was heathen � breed native Indian - removed by Catholic Social Services - given a number and beaten into submission and taught white mans faith/given a white mans name and forbidden to ever think/talk like his heathen father did. Grew up with huge distrust of any thing FAITH BASED - especially Catholic Church orientated. But very spiritual to the very end of his life.

This man that was raised with so much stigma/distain and public bias against the very culture of the native Americans this man was the 'Archie Bunker' of our family! And it wasn't amusing; he had a degrading - horrible racist name for everyone that he saw on TV and told us to "never darken my front door with any of those _____ *____**____**_____ grumble or we'd be living out on the street"! And none of us thought he was just joking around about that either! Seemed horribly oxymoron for the harsh life that he'd lived and the horrid way that he had been treated because he was born a � breed --- but some where down deep I think he just didn't want any of his future grand children to be called such degrading names or worse - not to suffer what he did for all those years he was torn from his family!

Now this the 21st century and we see all kinds of mixed race couples and all racial blends of small children; but doesn't it strike all of you as oddly stilted that the pendulum is swinging towards more of a shift around people objecting to certain faiths and segregating other humans just because of that or the lack there of now - in the our 21st century???

FEAR and distrust because of what 'THEY' believe...rather odd isn't it?

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/13/15 07:09 PM
race was and is easier to discern than faith,, I think faith bigotry was always there but people are now more public about every detail of their lives and lifestyls so it is more visible than before

Chazster's photo
Thu 05/14/15 05:53 AM

I'm from Germany, the racism in Europe is nothing like America's racism. in Europe I'm German not a black man. I wasn't a black man until I got to the states. love to me is not boundaries, no boxes with margins, no visual. Would I marry or date a white woman yes if she's a replica of me with the same common interest and loves me. yes , why not.


I think that is because in America people try to group themselves. People try to claim race issues where none exists which causes more segregation. An example would be an article I read this morning. It was about a state that passed a voter ID law. The article said that the state "didn't want black people to vote". Even our own government promotes this kind of attitude. (our own president even did it with his "anger translator" at his dinner the other month).

Honestly I don't think it should matter. While I am white and married to an asian woman and this is more socially acceptable, I have been called a race traitor before. You just need to accept that other people can be racist but that doesn't make them right. The only question you need to answer is if the opinions of other people will stop you from doing what you want to do.

no photo
Thu 05/14/15 05:57 AM

I am A Frickin' American and criticizing someone for having a racial preference in romantic relationships is tantamount to criticizing them for having a gender preference.

Way I figure things is if we all spent less time minding other people's business we'd have more time to tend to our own.

I really ain't too concerned who is holding hands with who. It ain't my concern as it has nothing to do with me.

Just OBEBO (Oughta Be Every Bodies Opinion - HEY! My acronym is a palindrome! :banana: )





I like it, OBEBO laugh

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