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I'm from Germany, the racism in Europe is nothing like America's racism. in Europe I'm German not a black man. I wasn't a black man until I got to the states. love to me is not boundaries, no boxes with margins, no visual. Would I marry or date a white woman yes if she's a replica of me with the same common interest and loves me. yes , why not. Yeah,Right?  |
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MS. Harmony you totally make a great point, when I was in Europe me being Christian was like a curse to others. maybe I may talk more about that in future religion hatred.
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trying to figure out who holding who's hand has what to do with me?
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Edited by
WonderWoman48
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Thu 05/14/15 01:56 PM
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Why do black guys prefer white women over black women?
What's wrong with black women? I already have an opinion on this subject. I'm just really interested to hear what other people have to say. My opinion is "Status" because they think they have something if they have a white woman. They feel need to have something to show off. They want something to brag about. |
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I really don't care who is with whom if it is related to race, religion, age, national affiliation probably a lot of other "groups". If you are good to each other and take care of your own then it means nothing to me.
I do think multicultural families have to be aware of the conflicts their children come up on and try even harder to give a good over view of both parents cultures without "choosing" which is going to be the identification. I disagree that race matters less in Europe or More in the USA. I just think it gets a lot more press here. America is such a huge diverse country with so many different climates, cultures, economie's it is kind of like saying all of a continent has to be this or that. Are there isolated pockets where people kind of follow one path? Yea but that is hardly unique to us. I do get really tired of what seems like subtle and sometimes not so subtle America Bashing. Especially when every culture and country is pretty much represented here and in some situations have more population here than their countries or origin. |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues
in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... |
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I'm from Germany, the racism in Europe is nothing like America's racism Fib to people who haven't lived in Germany. During my time there, I heard as many German slurs for black people, as I've heard in the u.s. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 05/14/15 06:19 PM
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes my point is, if blacks really thought there was an inequality, they wouldn't separate themselves from everyone else... what happened 200 years ago is no different from something that happened 1000 years ago, it's history... i have no problem calling you an American, but calling you an African American is just demeaning to blacks... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 05/14/15 06:31 PM
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes my point is, if blacks really thought there was an inequality, they wouldn't separate themselves from everyone else... what happened 200 years ago is no different from something that happened 1000 years ago, it's history... i have no problem calling you an American, but calling you an African American is just demeaning to blacks... my point is the blacks didn't separate themselves,,those who brought them here did and after slavery there was still segregation and jim crow, which allowed the UNITED STATES to keep blacks separated,,, which only ended in the last half century and my parents who as African americans had me, by definition, had an African American,, as I have, and as my children will calling me African American is not demeaning anymore than calling me a female American, its an honest reflection of my ancestry, my roots, my heritage,,,etc I was born in America I have African ancestry I was born with uterus and vagina my skin is not even close to 'black' and 'colored' is too vague a descrption when defining RACIAL heritage(which is based in ancestry) so describing my race as African American is far from demeaning to me my nationality is American,,, |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes my point is, if blacks really thought there was an inequality, they wouldn't separate themselves from everyone else... what happened 200 years ago is no different from something that happened 1000 years ago, it's history... i have no problem calling you an American, but calling you an African American is just demeaning to blacks... my point is the blacks didn't separate themselves,,those who brought them here did and after slavery there was still segregation and jim crow, which allowed the UNITED STATES to keep blacks separated,,, which only ended in the last half century and my parents who as African americans had me, by definition, had an African American,, as I have, and as my children will calling me African American is not demeaning anymore than calling me a female American, its an honest reflection of my ancestry, my roots, my heritage,,,etc I was born in America I have African ancestry I was born with uterus and vagina my skin is not even close to 'black' and 'colored' is too vague a descrption when defining RACIAL heritage(which is based in ancestry) so describing my race as African American is far from demeaning to me my nationality is American,,, i think we agree, but not sure with all the history lessons... so what i understand is blacks want to be separate? they don't want to be part of the nation or they just want to make themselves better than everyone else? not sure what your point here is, blacks have it better here now than they ever been anywhere else in time, but it's still not what yall want? what do you want? blacks have it the same as everyone else in the US, blacks go to work, whites go to work, blacks buy a new car, whites buy a new car, blacks can live anywhere they want, so can whites... i just don't see the need to separate yourselves... is it because of the dislike for whites? |
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its not a question of blacks 'wanting', its what blacks have
and we have adapted to it,,,and many thrived in spite of it,, we are a part of the nation because 'we' put too much blood and sweat into helping it become what it is that is also a given, and not a matter of what blacks 'want' blacks were brought here and KEPT separate,, and that didn't magically reverse overnight where is the confusion? this is not about what blacks 'want', its about how it is for blacks,, period |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes my point is, if blacks really thought there was an inequality, they wouldn't separate themselves from everyone else... what happened 200 years ago is no different from something that happened 1000 years ago, it's history... i have no problem calling you an American, but calling you an African American is just demeaning to blacks... my point is the blacks didn't separate themselves,,those who brought them here did and after slavery there was still segregation and jim crow, which allowed the UNITED STATES to keep blacks separated,,, which only ended in the last half century and my parents who as African americans had me, by definition, had an African American,, as I have, and as my children will calling me African American is not demeaning anymore than calling me a female American, its an honest reflection of my ancestry, my roots, my heritage,,,etc I was born in America I have African ancestry I was born with uterus and vagina my skin is not even close to 'black' and 'colored' is too vague a descrption when defining RACIAL heritage(which is based in ancestry) so describing my race as African American is far from demeaning to me my nationality is American,,, agreed again! I am Irish American, I have friends who are Asian American African American, Italian American and so on A lot of Americans are proud of their ancestral heritage and it makes them no less American. America is very unique and comparisons to Europe don;t work most of the time. Our country was founded and populated largely by people from somewhere else. It is a young country (relatively) so it is understandable that we sometimes seek attachment to the cultural heritage that helps define our contributions (as an immigrant culture) to this new experiment called America. The melting pot that we are described to be had to have something original to put in the pot...and that was the original heritages of each of us. there, my rant for the day 
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its not a question of blacks 'wanting', its what blacks have and we have adapted to it,,,and many thrived in spite of it,, we are a part of the nation because 'we' put too much blood and sweat into helping it become what it is that is also a given, and not a matter of what blacks 'want' blacks were brought here and KEPT separate,, and that didn't magically reverse overnight where is the confusion? this is not about what blacks 'want', its about how it is for blacks,, period |
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I don't think its bashing, no country is perfect, they all have different issues in Europe there is a lot of division amongst nationality and here there is division amongst races because our country is much larger than their nations,,, Its not just press, you can participate in American based forums or European ones and see where the most prominent types of bigotry are in britan, for instance, we were much more likely to be referred to as 'american' than black but here, since its expected to be American, we (my family and I) are much more likely to be referred to as black and wonderwoman,, I think men may have preferences for many reasons like women can and then of course people can just fall for who they fall for and cause others to assume race was a factor in their choice Ive known a black woman who was terribly mistreated by the few black men she was with and learned to 'prefer' white men(usually those who thought lowly of black men) IM sure the same is true of some black men I have also know black men to be treated poorly by a few black women so they learn to 'prefer' white women ,,,the possibilities and their causes are numerous seems to me that the blacks are the ones that want the distinction... we are all Americans, but yall prefer African Americans, even tho a very low percent actually even been to Africa... lol.. ur funny for hundreds of years , blacks weren't americans or even people,, just property that wasn't what blacks 'preferred' and due to a history of being defined that way,, we learned to embrace our ancestry since our country didn't embrace us and due to a history of being seen and labeled as something other than American (negro) and the effects of that on anyone appearing to be a negro,,,,,we are going to remain 'negro' as long as that distinction is something others can define simply by having eyes my point is, if blacks really thought there was an inequality, they wouldn't separate themselves from everyone else... what happened 200 years ago is no different from something that happened 1000 years ago, it's history... i have no problem calling you an American, but calling you an African American is just demeaning to blacks... my point is the blacks didn't separate themselves,,those who brought them here did and after slavery there was still segregation and jim crow, which allowed the UNITED STATES to keep blacks separated,,, which only ended in the last half century and my parents who as African americans had me, by definition, had an African American,, as I have, and as my children will calling me African American is not demeaning anymore than calling me a female American, its an honest reflection of my ancestry, my roots, my heritage,,,etc I was born in America I have African ancestry I was born with uterus and vagina my skin is not even close to 'black' and 'colored' is too vague a descrption when defining RACIAL heritage(which is based in ancestry) so describing my race as African American is far from demeaning to me my nationality is American,,, agreed again! I am Irish American, I have friends who are Asian American African American, Italian American and so on A lot of Americans are proud of their ancestral heritage and it makes them no less American. America is very unique and comparisons to Europe don;t work most of the time. Our country was founded and populated largely by people from somewhere else. It is a young country (relatively) so it is understandable that we sometimes seek attachment to the cultural heritage that helps define our contributions (as an immigrant culture) to this new experiment called America. The melting pot that we are described to be had to have something original to put in the pot...and that was the original heritages of each of us. there, my rant for the day i'm American, it doesn't matter where my ancestors were from... never been to Finland, and could care less about Finland... and i don't owe Finland anything, so why should i say i'm Finnish American? thats just stupid, since i have no ties with any other country... |
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Here is a little told truth:
People of mixed heritage will usually identify most strongly with the more downtrodden or maligned culture of their ethnic blend. Some people even invent a "diversity" for this purpose. What is gained by any of this? Attention? Pity? Admiration for overcoming "struggle"? The only example I can think of where this doesn't hold true, and this just dawned on me, is that I have never heard of a caucasian from Johannesburg and is now a US citizen referring to his or herself as African American...hmmmmm |
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Here is a little told truth: People of mixed heritage will usually identify most strongly with the more downtrodden or maligned culture of their ethnic blend. Some people even invent a "diversity" for this purpose. What is gained by any of this? Attention? Pity? Admiration for overcoming "struggle"? The only example I can think of where this doesn't hold true, and this just dawned on me, is that I have never heard of a caucasian from Johannesburg and is now a US citizen referring to his or herself as African American...hmmmmm my vote would be self pity... |
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Here is a little told truth: People of mixed heritage will usually identify most strongly with the more downtrodden or maligned culture of their ethnic blend. Some people even invent a "diversity" for this purpose. What is gained by any of this? Attention? Pity? Admiration for overcoming "struggle"? The only example I can think of where this doesn't hold true, and this just dawned on me, is that I have never heard of a caucasian from Johannesburg and is now a US citizen referring to his or herself as African American...hmmmmm my vote would be self pity... 
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so describing my race as African American is far from demeaning to me my nationality is American,,, Uh, what about the natives of Africa who are Caucasian? They are Africans, right? So, if some of them become U.S. citizens, then they and their offspring would also be African-Americans. That is why the label "African-American" describes ethnicity, not race. |
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