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Topic: Bush is now offically running for president
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Mon 06/15/15 01:35 PM
Edited by metalwing on Mon 06/15/15 01:36 PM
As I write this, Bush is announcing his candidacy. He just started speaking Spanish. I guess he is telling all those who don't speak English that he will make them citizens. j/k

His views on immigration and common core bother me.

I think the Bush name is a handicap.

What do you think.

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Mon 06/15/15 02:56 PM
Hello mw,
Yes. At this point Jeb has not turned the family name into an advantage, though he's reported to have already collected vast $quantities of $campaign $money.

I thought his announcement was foolishly worded.
He said we were on a bad course.

ARE YOU FRICK IN SERIOUS JEB ?!?!

Your older brother took office from the Democrat that preceded him, the nation was at peace, and the economy stable.
After 8 years of Bush number two (a flattering nickname) :

- the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland in U.S. history

- the nation was at Wars, one of which not merely unnecessary, but counterproductive

- the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, losing ~800K private sector jobs per month.

Contrast that with Obama's record.
“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
...
It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields

And Jeb's kick-off declaration is: we're headed in the wrong direction?!?!

Jeb! Bud A!
You're a likeable man. But if this is the best you can do, McD's is hiring.
Perhaps you could work the window.

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Mon 06/15/15 03:09 PM

Hello mw,
Yes. At this point Jeb has not turned the family name into an advantage, though he's reported to have already collected vast $quantities of $campaign $money.

I thought his announcement was foolishly worded.
He said we were on a bad course.

ARE YOU FRICK IN SERIOUS JEB ?!?!

Your older brother took office from the Democrat that preceded him, the nation was at peace, and the economy stable.
After 8 years of Bush number two (a flattering nickname) :

- the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland in U.S. history

- the nation was at Wars, one of which not merely unnecessary, but counterproductive

- the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, losing ~800K private sector jobs per month.

Contrast that with Obama's record.
“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
...
It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields

And Jeb's kick-off declaration is: we're headed in the wrong direction?!?!

Jeb! Bud A!
You're a likeable man. But if this is the best you can do, McD's is hiring.
Perhaps you could work the window.


yea, well, i won't vote for either one... clinton did a great job, but that was the last man that did... both bush and obarry had a hard time in office, and both failed miserably at it...

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/15/15 03:18 PM
Clinton did a great job setting the stage for the financial collapse..


mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/15/15 03:21 PM

Clinton did a great job setting the stage for the financial collapse..




yes, he did... i think it was a ploy to blame it on the republicans after he was out...

LTme's photo
Mon 06/15/15 03:42 PM
"yes, he did..." mm

Yes.
President Clinton and Speaker Gingrich conspired to repeal Glass-Steagel.

BAD IDEA!
That indeed set the stage for the economic failure late in the subsequent Bush administration.
"i think it was a ploy to blame it on the republicans after he was out..." mm

Doubtful.
It could have done to Clinton what it instead did to Bush.

"Slick Willy" isn't stupid enough to take that kind of political risk.

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Mon 06/15/15 03:44 PM

"yes, he did..." mm

Yes.
President Clinton and Speaker Gingrich conspired to repeal Glass-Steagel.

BAD IDEA!
That indeed set the stage for the economic failure late in the subsequent Bush administration.
"i think it was a ploy to blame it on the republicans after he was out..." mm

Doubtful.
It could have done to Clinton what it instead did to Bush.

"Slick Willy" isn't stupid enough to take that kind of political risk.


maybe you should read up about his last days in office with fannie mae and freddy mac...you know, the ones that got billions in bailouts when obarry came into office?

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Mon 06/15/15 04:58 PM
when you all vote , is there an option for none of the above ?
and no i am not joking last time i voted i was 18 or there abouts

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/15/15 05:01 PM

"yes, he did..." mm

Yes.
President Clinton and Speaker Gingrich conspired to repeal Glass-Steagel.

BAD IDEA!
That indeed set the stage for the economic failure late in the subsequent Bush administration.
"i think it was a ploy to blame it on the republicans after he was out..." mm

Doubtful.
It could have done to Clinton what it instead did to Bush.

"Slick Willy" isn't stupid enough to take that kind of political risk.


Don't forget the dot com bubble that burst... Clinton takes credit for 'his' economy, but never really mentions that 'his' economy was in large part due to the massive bubble growth in tech..




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Mon 06/15/15 05:32 PM
Bubba Clinton, had a republican congress.

Dubya, had a libtard congress.

Obonzo, stamps his foot and plays the race card.



Other than that f'tard, Ron Paul...
I'll vote for whichever candidate, pisses off the libtards the most.

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Mon 06/15/15 05:46 PM
Now back to the OP...

Jeb is not going to win the nomination no matter how hard the establishment or media prop him up.

He has zero chance to win a general election. He is a bigger gift to Hillary than McCain/Palin was to Obama.

And that is sayin something.


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Mon 06/15/15 05:54 PM
no, no opinion here on Bush the 3rd, but the Spanish speaking thing is disrespectful to American culture. so I am already thinking.....no he 's a panderer.

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Mon 06/15/15 06:22 PM


"yes, he did..." mm

Yes.
President Clinton and Speaker Gingrich conspired to repeal Glass-Steagel.

BAD IDEA!
That indeed set the stage for the economic failure late in the subsequent Bush administration.
"i think it was a ploy to blame it on the republicans after he was out..." mm

Doubtful.
It could have done to Clinton what it instead did to Bush.

"Slick Willy" isn't stupid enough to take that kind of political risk.


Don't forget the dot com bubble that burst... Clinton takes credit for 'his' economy, but never really mentions that 'his' economy was in large part due to the massive bubble growth in tech..

Among other things... Clinton was a fast talker and the American public bought it hook line and sinker...


Jeb is not going to win the nomination no matter how hard the establishment or media prop him up.

He has zero chance to win a general election. He is a bigger gift to Hillary than McCain/Palin was to Obama.

And that is sayin something.



Exactly.... The republicans need to get their heads out of their proverbial butts... And get a good candidate or we will be Saying President Clinton again and it won't be "Billy Boy" either...




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Mon 06/15/15 07:32 PM
If Bush has to come into power again expect it to get worse then before

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Mon 06/15/15 07:56 PM
the last thing we need is another bush or clinton. they should make a voting selection for "abolish the federal government", and they would have my vote.

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Tue 06/16/15 02:12 AM

If Bush has to come into power again expect it to get worse then before


This ^^^^ 2 Clintons & 2 Bushes invited to Bilderbergs & who has the closest bloodline to the Tudors?
It is just too diabolical for most people to except
lt has already been decided.

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Tue 06/16/15 02:23 AM
" the ones that got billions in bailouts when obarry came into office? " mm

It was Bush / Cheney / Paulson that set us on that track.

Have you forgotten their $700 $Billion $Dollar $TARP?
It wasn't intended to rescue the U.S. economy the way Obama did.

It was merely intended to prevent it from sinking, before the three of them could get the flock out of town.

They dropped their flaming potato in Obama's lap, in an economy losing ~800k private sector jobs per month!

According to Shields, Bush added 300k private sector jobs in 8 years.
Obama's added more than that in two months; millions in his ~6 year tenure.

metalwing's photo
Tue 06/16/15 04:26 AM

no, no opinion here on Bush the 3rd, but the Spanish speaking thing is disrespectful to American culture. so I am already thinking.....no he 's a panderer.


I agree. I think whatever Spanish speaking votes he picks up are offset by the pissing off others by speaking it during a speech for all Americans. I know Hispanics who don't speak Spanish.

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Tue 06/16/15 06:41 AM

" the ones that got billions in bailouts when obarry came into office? " mm

It was Bush / Cheney / Paulson that set us on that track.

Have you forgotten their $700 $Billion $Dollar $TARP?
It wasn't intended to rescue the U.S. economy the way Obama did.

It was merely intended to prevent it from sinking, before the three of them could get the flock out of town.

They dropped their flaming potato in Obama's lap, in an economy losing ~800k private sector jobs per month!

According to Shields, Bush added 300k private sector jobs in 8 years.
Obama's added more than that in two months; millions in his ~6 year tenure.


so what has that got to do with clinton causing all that to begin with?

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Tue 06/16/15 07:44 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Tue 06/16/15 07:45 AM


no, no opinion here on Bush the 3rd, but the Spanish speaking thing is disrespectful to American culture. so I am already thinking.....no he 's a panderer.


I agree. I think whatever Spanish speaking votes he picks up are offset by the pissing off others by speaking it during a speech for all Americans. I know Hispanics who don't speak Spanish.


I agree with both of you...But the rest of the thread I'm not so sure about...Seems to me right now Jed is preforming in classic big brother Bush style...Faux pas are winningohwell ....And if you think about it, not much different than so many before him:wink: ...Early predictors have him ahead of Rubio, Scott ......and......Paul...He has the most experience, DEEP ties to party leaders and plenty of funding....Like it or not, he was popular in Florida...His biggest negative is big bro and his biggest positive is following Obama...So what are the choices going to be?...Known or unknown...After Obama, I think American will take a more 'conservative' approach when they visit the polls...I may not like it, but I'm not counting him out...


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