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Topic: Rap music, blacks and society's view.
Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 07:13 AM
I'm an up and coming rap artist, but I want some feedback on why sooooo
many of us are portrayed as idiots, drug dealers, thugs, owners of
criminal histories longer than Bush's nose, uneducated, unemployed and
just plain damn dumb. I would also like to know why society plays
mostly music that degrades and exploits us (BLACKS) as a whole. Then I
would like to know why the fuck half of us (BLACKS) are gullible enough
to fall into this trap and try to act out the bullshit that society
allows to be shown on television......especially----B.E. mothafuckin'
T!!!! I just don't understand......wait, yes I do.......we are
breeding more jackasses than we are success stories. Now the picture is
becoming clearer. Mothers and Fathers, crack ya whips like slavemasters
and put ya children in check before it's too late.

spiritfilled24's photo
Tue 10/31/06 07:36 AM
Hell yeah!!!! Let's get back to the good old fashioned a** whoop'n. Bust
out them switches and discipline these kids cause they are our future
and sorry to say this but if we keep letting our kids get away with crap
our future is going straight to hell.

Tneal's photo
Tue 10/31/06 07:43 AM
tell that to the powers that be. You can't even spank your kids anymore
with having them taken away from ya.

I saw a lady in a store (about a year ago) tell her son to be quiet and
behave, when the child acted up more she told him that he will not be
getting dessert that night cause of his behavor. The kid yelled back at
her, if you don't give me my dessert I am going to report you to the
Child welfare.

OMG!!! where do these kids get these ideas from? I was floored when I
heard him say that. But I loved the mothers responce.

You do that son, and see if you get anything in the poor house they put
you into cause you were being a bad boy.

The kids shut up!! Way to go MOM!!

in my day, I would of been taken outside the store and had my butt
spanked. Then grounded for 2 weeks, extra chores, and no dessert for a
month.

No wonder I turned out to be a good girl LOL

spiritfilled24's photo
Tue 10/31/06 07:51 AM
The problem today is that the parents are letting their kids put the
fear of the damn law in their heads but come on now.WE ARE THE ADULTS
and if anyone is going to put the fear in anyone it's us in these damn
kids.It is written in the bible in proverbs that you should beat you
child with a rod(not literally) and he shall not die. Like my grandma
used to tell us when we were kids"You gonna call the cops on me well you
might as well call the ambulance too cause when I'm done with you,
you're gonna need it."Don't mess with grandma

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 07:54 AM
No doubt. It's obvious that the videos that come on TV these days are
the creation of hedonistic people who were not taught to respect women,
other people or themselves.....if they did, you would not be seein' this
bullshit on the video channels at all. I just think RAP has been
polluted by the same people who want Blacks to fail as a culture by more
or less stressing these bogus images to young people to the point they
think this is how we are supposed to be in the real world......fuck
that, I rap, I have a corporate job, been through college and my image
is one thing, but with book-smarts and REAL street knowledge, myself and
rappers who have the same qualities become threats to the plan to keep
us trapped. That's when the real war begins......they do not play our
shit because it's powerful, truthful and "they" do not want our message
to knock the fuckin' bricks out of their plan to keep us in the mental
"ghetto", nor do they want to see us make a profit in the process. If I
am wrong, please tell me and I will shut this discussion down now and
take my ass back to the studio.

spiritfilled24's photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:17 AM
YEAH SOLOW YOU KNOW.I REMEMBER GROWING UP AND LISTENING TO A DIFF KIND
OF RAP.IN THE 80'S AND 90'S RAP WAS ALL ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE
WORLD.SURE THERE WERE SOME BAD WORDS BUT IT WAS ABOUT REAL SH*T NOT ALL
THIS CRAP THEY HAVE NOW.RAPPERS NOW TALK ABOUT THE BLING BLING AND HOW
MUCH A** THEY CAN TAP AND STUFF THAT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A POINT.OH AND
SHOES.HOW YOU GONNA RAP ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SHOES YOU HAVE? CRAZY
MAN.WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO NWA AND EASY E AND TUPAC STUFF.THEY TALKED ABOUT
REAL SH*T.

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:20 AM
i agree with most of your statements solow except the one where you said
that someone like yourself doesn't get the airtime because they are
trying to keep you trapped.
you don't get air time because people are still caught up in all the
bull shit about the glorification of how hard the street life is and
there is no emphasis on being a well rounded educated person anymore.
the music company is in it to make money not keep someone down. there
just isn't a market for it yet but there will be, just have to hang in
there.
it's amazing how many people i see try to live that lifestyle because
they think it's cool and they have no idea about what it is about or
what it'll do to them. how are you gonna be a gangsta if you have to go
get your boys to kick my ass, most people just talk shit anymore and
it's disgusting.
i think what it comes down to is that people don't think for themselves
anymore, they just follow the pack. i agree with the last statement the
most. our whole society seems to revolve around ignorant little assholes
that can't get by on their own like everyone else so they bitch and
complain and society gives in so they don't have to put up with it, beat
their mother fuckin ass and make them shut up. they think they are
strong but the real people go through more bullshit than they ever know
and they don't resort to being a bitch to deal with their punk ass hurt
feelins. i think back to my grandparents and they didn't have it easy
but they never complained and they never took it out on someone else
because they had a rough life. this world is going down the toilet if we
don't do something, i hope it's not too late.

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:39 AM
I totally agree King
I love the topic Solow,I glad someone is bringing out and no better
person than you

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:40 AM
Breeze.....that's some REAL talk. I appreciate it and I really hope
more people click on this subject and give honest feedback. I live in
Atlanta now and coming from the Chicago music scene has presented a
major challenge to me. We sell a nice amount of music but like I said,
I have a job that requires me to sit behind a pc monitor all day and
most of the evening and it does not allow me to put in all the time I
need to get all of my concepts out when I need to. Then you have the
lil' nickle and dime wanna be hustlaz who have no job or true life and
they have ample time to sit around, blow blunts start shit, get shot and
stay in little bootleg studios. With that much said, I've decided to do
everything on my own...with a little help from Chuck-D, and that's
because these labels down here DO NOT want real talk on their teams. I
don't mean street talk because I've been there and done that....too many
times but the wake up call hit my ass and I haven't slept since. These
A&R's down here have told me that I say too much in my songs and the
"SHAWTY" mindframe only wants to hear beats. So I made a valid
statement that shut them the fuck up:
If they only like the beats, I could be talking about murdering their
families and friends, plotting to blow up their homes or even wishing
the worse of death's scenarios on them......but they would never know
it...why? because listening is not part of the plan.....just beats and
bullshit lyrics. I'll post a link to one of my websites soon.

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:40 AM
Breeze.....that's some REAL talk. I appreciate it and I really hope
more people click on this subject and give honest feedback. I live in
Atlanta now and coming from the Chicago music scene has presented a
major challenge to me. We sell a nice amount of music but like I said,
I have a job that requires me to sit behind a pc monitor all day and
most of the evening and it does not allow me to put in all the time I
need to get all of my concepts out when I need to. Then you have the
lil' nickle and dime wanna be hustlaz who have no job or true life and
they have ample time to sit around, blow blunts start shit, get shot and
stay in little bootleg studios. With that much said, I've decided to do
everything on my own...with a little help from Chuck-D, and that's
because these labels down here DO NOT want real talk on their teams. I
don't mean street talk because I've been there and done that....too many
times but the wake up call hit my ass and I haven't slept since. These
A&R's down here have told me that I say too much in my songs and the
"SHAWTY" mindframe only wants to hear beats. So I made a valid
statement that shut them the fuck up:
If they only like the beats, I could be talking about murdering their
families and friends, plotting to blow up their homes or even wishing
the worse of death's scenarios on them......but they would never know
it...why? because listening is not part of the plan.....just beats and
bullshit lyrics. I'll post a link to one of my websites soon.

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:45 AM
Dang Drama.....you are looking soooooooo goood in ya pic.

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 08:53 AM
Thank you baby, I love your pics, a strong image

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 09:00 AM
I agree that the societal pull of commercial exageration is geared
towards the minds of those who aren't really struggling, never have
struggled, don't know what struggling is or those that expect a free
ride. I see kids and adults pretending to be hard, speaking all the
right slang, looking hard and professing that they don't get respect.
But they are about as hard as a marshmellows, and what respect do they
deserve? They'd be pissin in their pants if something heavy really came
down on them. Respect is givin to those who deserve it, the people we
don't see helping others behind the scenes, doctors, inventors,
soldiers, scientists, mothers and fathers, and yes even some
politicians. I'm not sure what the answer is, but peelin a cap with no
remorse isn't what I'd call progress. Life has been and will always be
sacrifice, hard work, family and maybe possibly happiness in the big
picture long run. Peace!

Timothy470's photo
Tue 10/31/06 09:06 AM
I think all of you have good insight. I like RAP and I'm 47. I didn't
like it at first because I was not really listening to the lyrics. I
listened to the beats which I always liked, but the lyrics were a little
degrading in some of the first RAP that I listened to and I didn't feel
it served any purpose. The RAP I have listened to lately actually has a
messsage. If people will actually hear what is being said. Most people
my age still stereotype RAP and for that reason tune out as soon as they
hear it. This is a human nature problem.

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 10:44 AM
i mostly listen to music for entertainment but the ones that say
something are the ones i like the best. i'm not a big believer in the
idea that "the music made me do it" but if they are truly being
influenced by it then we should have more support for music that conveys
a strong sense of self worth,independent thought, confidence,morals and
intelligence.
if you could let me now where i can find the stuff that you have done
solow i'll check it out, good luck

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 10:53 AM
Breeze.....hit me here with your email and I'll send you some sample
tracks. Solow295@yahoo.com

sherrie0527's photo
Tue 10/31/06 10:57 AM
whats up Solow ...HAPPY HALLOWEEN...

Morena350's photo
Tue 10/31/06 11:36 AM
was up Solow
you have a good mentality, and hope all
af your dreams come true,
thank you for putting it out there, so it can
be understood, some make it bad for the real
good ones, and that is not right. But it will always
happen, all we need to do is keep trying, and not give up,
we have come far and that is a good signe.
I will like to now what you write.
send me some of your music, at Avely11@yahoo.com

morena

no photo
Tue 10/31/06 12:44 PM
I agree with ur initial statement, somewhat, Solow...but the problem is
the media wont play it if it wasnt produced. And frankly, what sells is
often not what is potically correct or uplifting, but whats sexy, hard,
and grabs attention. Rick Ross is one of the newest hard core's I can
say thats played now but all the lyrics arent talkin about God and lovin
my woman and respectin my mom and huggin my best friend. He's talkin
bout pushin drugs, hoes n bitches, shootin this dude, and his album is
sellin. one song on his cd is so raunchy, i dont even like it-- talkin
bout his cock and how hard he's gonna shove it... people go by what they
see and hear. afterall, it is a business

Solow's photo
Tue 10/31/06 01:22 PM
Thanks for the input Monique....you are soooo correct. I don't want
people to assume that every one of my songs is talking about living the
life of a Pastor but there is an approach to everything and I firmly
believe ignorance is not the one. People have no idea how many well
paid rappers there are out there who can't even spell.....have you ever
seen the actual rhyme sheets of any artists? If not, let me break it
down to you. I've have seen transcripts of rappers who spell (in my
opinion) on the level of 5th graders and it's a sad reality. I'm not
putting myself on a pedestal, I simply would like to see my fellow
rappers switch it up a bit and bring common sense to the game. I heard
some bullshit on the radio the other day where (I think it was Jeezy)
mentions some shit about he knows he's going to hell and he has plans to
fry......straight up stupid ass talk. Sound motivating? Sure, if you
plan to pay rent to Lucifer and sleep in a fuckin' cave. I have
probably done more dirt than any of these clowns who glorify it, but the
difference is simple.....I don't want a negative fanbase, I don't want
to project illminded thoughts into the minds of CHILDREN who might
listen to my songs and I sure as hell would not want certain members of
my family to get a hold of a track where I am disrespecting women,
myself or life in general. But thanks again for the feedback-----by the
way, nice smile.

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