This is silly.. Fact is women are as sneaky as some men.... You may not physically rape a man but you can rape his bank accounts. Everyone has lied. You could murder his dreams of true love.. I'm a woman and I always keep it 100 with everyone no games life is to short just like me!! I like tall men because there is no reason why both of us need to use stools!!! Lol get over the outside its the inside that counts. It doesn't matter your race or height if you intend on evil you do it. It's called being a coward or pure ignorance

I just want to point out that this statement is an example of a logical/mathematical error.

People tend to "date" others who they find ATTRACTIVE. They can be attracted to the physical aspects alone, or to the personality alone, or to some combination of things.

The sequence of logic which you SHOULD follow in this area of human behavior, is to recognize that attraction comes FIRST, followed by exploration of each other's lives, and finally either moving on or staying together.

If a woman looks at, say, five men, and finds them all to be equally attractive to her, and THEN chooses to date the liar, the thief, the rapist or the murderer, THEN you could follow up with this question.

Final note: people who KNOWINGLY date " liars, cheats, thieves, rapists, murderers, and worse," do so because THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE TURNED ON BY. They don't date them IN SPITE OF the lies and murder, they go with them BECAUSE of it.

Bottom line, if you are sitting there pining away about some woman you actually know, who refused your advances and chose a lying murderer, recognize that she would have dropped you soon AFTER dating you a couple of times, as soon as she realized that you WEREN'T a lying murderer after all.

Yes I am illogical. Excellent to get mention of logic. It was an emotional question, which makes logic void. I have actually dated a nice girl 4 inches taller long ago, and it was no problem apart from 'looking different' together.
But you can't fight pre-determinism. I was never going to get what I wanted no matter what. I suppose they had their experiences to live and suffer, as did I. It's so hard to watch bastards destroy angels that you love. I can't look anymore.

I don't understand why women are happy (at least initially) to date liars, cheats, thieves, rapists, murderers, and worse, but not short men.

Could someone Please explain.



The dilemma is :
"When you are toes to toes your nose is in it, and when you are nose to nose your toe is in it"

and that is a dilemma how cheechako?

You need to work on clarity of your own vision. You are NOT watching "bastards destroy angels that you love," you are imagining angels, and fantasizing love that you aren't actually feeling.

That's the important point. Right now, you aren't even REALLY "allowing your emotions to overrule logic." You are instead, creating fake emotional bonds to women who you don't know at all, and pasting pictures of your inner fantasy girl over their images in your mind. You are trying to turn your own frustration and anger into a bandage to hide your fear that your DNA is to blame for your loneliness, and then shifting THAT blame onto everyone else, all to try to make yourself feel better.

I know it well, I did it for years myself.

But it's all fake, all coming from inside you. Until you STOP pretending that emotions are anything more than reactions, and start directly living your life, you will remain in this self-destructive cocoon of delusion.

As a fellow "depression-o-holic," I urge you to recognize this, and break away from it.

Not a problem if you like kissing bellybuttons.

With the exception of my second husband, I have always dated men who were as tall as me and I am 5'6. It doesn't matter how short or tall someone is. However, it DOES matter if they are a rapist and all the other awful things you mentioned. Only mentally ill women date psychopathic men. Intentionally, that is.

Explain it to me like I'm five. What does dating short men have to do with "destroying angels"?

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This is good OP
Keep posting... & looking for to fighting with you... Till we both laugh

Very well said!

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Ok, true story, I noticed a girl when I was about 14 and she was little, later in my early twenties she was a mates girlfriend, and I instantly fell in love(illogical) with her. I stayed best friends with her for over 20 years, watching her pains with failed marriages and many stupid and evil guys, and waiting for her to come to me. After that long waiting eventually I had to stop being there for her, break away and stay away, for my own comfort. I still care but don't want to watch anymore; no contact; she never wanted me anyway.

And another girl later who I care for, can't/won't leave her keeper out of fear of bad things. And her fears are well founded, as I know of other nasty things done, and have myself been threatened (not idly) just for being a friend. So many nice girls I have met who seem to go for the worst guy available.

I don't (or try not to) hang out with abusers, and I struggle understanding how others do; even though I have experienced the unusual short lived effects of "being in love" where absolutely nothing else matters.
so there you go folks - analyse that!

Cheers notbeold, I have experienced the same thing, & I remember that one night rather vividly. I'd grown up watching the Lone Ranger on Saturdays, & I always envisioned myself in a similar role, helping people weaker than myself, righting wrongs, etc. That night I suddenly realized that if the Lone Ranger really existed, sooner or later people would band together to get rid of him one way or another. For better or worse, people want to make their bad choices, & if hearing & seeing your concern doesn't make any practical difference in the situation, then probably the best thing you can do is to remove yourself from their lives.

I and my best friend were like brothers, & we'd fallen for a pair of sisters that we'd known for a number of years. The girl that I cared for consistently fell for guys who abused her - the girl that my best friend fell for allowed one of our coworkers to break one of her fingers with a hammer.

Looking back at it now (with the benefit of several years of hindsight/maturity), the fact that he & I *DIDN'T* get the girls we wanted was probably one of the bigger blessings of our lives...

I like the guy to be taller than me then I have options of wearing heals. I feel more protected because he's taller. Like having a big teddy bear.
I know it sounds silly but that's how I feel



I have never been with a lie,cheat, thief, rapist or murderer but I have been with someone who plays mind games and controls you. Personally I don't know what's worse.

I can empathize with the Op.

I've seen site after site; profile after profile; post after post with SO many women (it seems - I know not ALL women are this way)... women who say they only want a man that is "tall." And in my experience, it's at least 5'10" minimum.

I am 5'7" and I struggle with this SO often it should be made into a sitcom. I've had a 5'2" woman tell me SHE is too tall for me - it was her polite way of saying "you're too short" because when she wears her 5" heels, I still won't tower over her.

I get it - we're attracted to what we're attracted to. However, it sucks that it *seems* most women (a generalization, I know) will choose their shoe collection over a great guy. We are not in cave-person times - women do NOT need men to "protect" them (although, I do understand the psychological desire for it).

I have dated a woman who was 3" taller than me and my (now ex) wife was 1" taller than me - so I know there are women out there who are not height-elitists. But now being thrust into the dating pool once again... it does seem very difficult to find women who don't care about height.

It's especially difficult with online dating since we put our stats out there in the open like a label on at food product at the grocery store. We look at label after label and it gets overwhelming. There are SO many choices, it's just an easy stat to help narrow down a choice - even though that person may be passing up the perfect match for them. ...one of the many problems with online dating.

Three women were discussing birth control. First on says "I am on the pill". Second one says " I use the rhythm method" Third one says " My husband and I use the pail and saucer method" Pail and saucer method, How does that work? She says " We make love standing up, my husband is really short so he stands on a pail. When his eyes get as big as saucers, I kick the pail out from under him"

Very well put, & I think you have a valid point - not sure how it could be changed though...