Topic: University Offered Counseling After Seeing Confederate Flag
mightymoe's photo
Thu 11/26/15 11:17 AM





how old is that girl? or does it not matter in minglelandsad2


At least 14. So by your standards, that ' Southern Comfort ' is old enough.


but Im asking about mingle standards,, particularly those ready to hang men how have attraction for teens..




whats your point? shes not nude and nobody has said anyone wants to do her... all animals are cuter when they are young, doesn't mean anything nasty...




rofl rofl rofl rofl

do 'cute young animals walk around in bikinis specifically showing their BEHIND?

lol


nice try


don't be jealous, post your behind in a bikini and we'll look too...

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/26/15 11:18 AM
nah, I posted an artistic nude but noone cared

so its too late,,,lol

and off topic,,

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Thu 11/26/15 11:19 AM

no, Im more than prepared for the inconsistent and hypocritical values people sometimes espouse,,,


but this seemed like an opportunity to point it out,, that appears to be wasted


,,so,,,,

<shrugs>


Yours...

"Though I do believe in terms of what individuals 'display' in their personal corners or space, others need to grow some balls and get over it"


msharmony's photo
Thu 11/26/15 11:21 AM
thanks, I also believe in free speech

so we all can FEEL FREE to continue sharing our opinions in an anonymous way on a page in cyber space,,,


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Thu 11/26/15 11:40 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Thu 11/26/15 11:46 AM
thanks, I also believe in free speech

Glad you see it my way. Because a sticker on a PC is free speech & freedom of expression & many other things.


If it isn't then let's get some good old' boys up in Mass. campus saying they are upset & offended at #blacklivesmatter t-shirts & hash tags ... Because why should, over half the country, . throw away all their flags & heritage & stop honoring the dead who died in battle because they wanted to secede from the Union.

Maybe all flages & stickers should go that offend people. ( How about ISIS. spock )
.If they ( the students ) had any b@lls & weren't suffering from self inflicted victimization.. That might stand for something worthwhile.


msharmony's photo
Thu 11/26/15 11:49 AM
a sticker is free speech, which is why we wont catch anyone in jail for displaying one


but a campus, school, or work environment can set guidelines and standards that their alumni, students , employees,,e tc,,,

SIGN OFF on to set the standard for that environment


as to the rest, comparing an internet movement like Black lives matter to an oppressive slaveholding government like the confederates,,,


not so much of an accurate analogy,,

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/26/15 11:51 AM

:laughing:

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Thu 11/26/15 12:13 PM
a sticker is free speech, which is why we wont catch anyone in jail for displaying one

So is the ' battle flag', which is why the right to display it should NOT be infringed upon.


But a campus, school, or work environment can set guidelines and standards that their alumni, students , employees,,e tc,,,

Laws & standards are set. The students are at the point of infringement on EVERYONE else's rights. Like toddlers having a temper tantrum.


As to the rest, comparing an internet movement like Black lives matter to an oppressive slaveholding government like the confederates,,,

An internet movement ? Oh.. So that is why the DOJ wants to classify them as a hate group. slaphead
Slave holding government?
No.. They were fighting for the right to govern themselves. The rest... Was an after thought & a condition to surrender. * How's Canada looking... ? *


not so much of an accurate analogy,,

So true. The truth about American history means so much more than college students faking PTSD. laugh

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Thu 11/26/15 06:02 PM
I dunno. Out in the working world, I'm used to everything these days being done according to an established procedure. Part of everyone converting to ISO standards and methods.

This sounds like that kind of thing. Someone reported seeing the flag sticker, and the established ISO procedure for the school, is to offer counseling to those who reported the offense.

Most such procedures have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the people in charge actually think the students are delicate flowers, in need of emotional support and care. Such processes are usually designed to please insurance companies, in the end.

Therefore the people I think we really need to squint at here, are those insurance companies, who dictate so very much of the wastes of time and money everyone suffers from these days.

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/26/15 09:18 PM

a sticker is free speech, which is why we wont catch anyone in jail for displaying one

So is the ' battle flag', which is why the right to display it should NOT be infringed upon.


But a campus, school, or work environment can set guidelines and standards that their alumni, students , employees,,e tc,,,

Laws & standards are set. The students are at the point of infringement on EVERYONE else's rights. Like toddlers having a temper tantrum.


As to the rest, comparing an internet movement like Black lives matter to an oppressive slaveholding government like the confederates,,,

An internet movement ? Oh.. So that is why the DOJ wants to classify them as a hate group. slaphead
Slave holding government?
No.. They were fighting for the right to govern themselves. The rest... Was an after thought & a condition to surrender. * How's Canada looking... ? *


not so much of an accurate analogy,,

So true. The truth about American history means so much more than college students faking PTSD. laugh


conservatives pundits do not make up the DOJ,,,lol

were the confeds not SLAVE HOLDERS? fighting for the right to govern themselves to be able to permit themselves to continue ENSLAVING PEOPLE for profit?...lol


Rock's photo
Thu 11/26/15 09:37 PM
Hell...
If I would have only known sooner,
just how easy it is, to piss off a bunch
of sniveling crybabies...
I would have already had the Confederate flag flying high.

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/26/15 09:39 PM

Hell...
If I would have only known sooner,
just how easy it is, to piss off a bunch
of sniveling crybabies...
I would have already had the Confederate flag flying high.


thats no way to talk about minglers,,,lol

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 11/27/15 10:56 AM
This is a university....not a day care. If people are traumatized over something like this, they can pay for their own counseling. The counseling should be for things like rape, shootings, suicide on campus kinda thing.

What a bunch of whiney butts they are

Rock's photo
Fri 11/27/15 11:25 AM
Generation whine :laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 11/27/15 12:06 PM

Generation whine :laughing:

better get them some Cheese!:laughing:

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Fri 11/27/15 02:13 PM
Conservatives pundits do not make up the DOJ

ACH! Only in my dreams biggrin

were the confeds not SLAVE HOLDERS? fighting for the right to govern themselves to be able to permit themselves to continue ENSLAVING PEOPLE for profit?...lol

They already were governing themselves, the Yanks didn't profit from them. They didn't like the South French aristocracy either. laugh
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" ENSLAVING PEOPLE ".. Stop screaming ..your not on campus.

Africans sold Africans for at least 300 years .. to each other, before the Europeans showed up & brought them.

Try looking at it that way... There are a whole lot of people & flags & stickers to hate before white Americans. Besides... White people give away lots of free sh@t.
Where do think Oprah got her 'favorite things' idea?
laugh

And I can assure you, none of my DNA had anything to do with it. Yes..I checked. We had our own problems.
And none of us are walking around complaining of ancestral genetic flashbacks or battleflagphobia


* Déjà vu.. We had this conversation already... Next customer! smokin *

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Fri 11/27/15 02:56 PM

Students Comforted with ‘Counseling’ after Seeing Confederate Flag on Laptop

by DR. SUSAN BERRY
25 Nov 2015

University students in Massachusetts who were upset by an image of a Confederate flag sticker on another student’s laptop were offered counseling services at Framingham State University.

The offer came after the university’s “chief diversity and inclusion officer,” Sean Huddleston, described the display of the small Confederate flag sticker as a “bias incident.”

According to Metrowest Daily News, students filed two “bias reports” within the past month as a result of a student displaying the flag in some way. The most recent bias incident – reported on November 19 – was a report of a student having seen a Confederate flag sticker on another student’s laptop.

In an email to students, Huddleston did not declare a ban on displaying the flag, but claimed that it upsets some students.

MRCTV obtained the email in which Huddleston wrote:

A student reported a bias incident today, in which the image of the Confederate flag was displayed on a laptop. Many of you may be aware that last month we received a Bias Incident involving two other students for a similar issue. Although related in nature, the two incidents involve separate parties.

The FSU Bias Protocol and Response Team has been made aware of the incident, and will meet to determine any measures that may be needed to respond to the incident. Our primary goal continues to be to expeditiously address and resolve incidents of bias that impede our progress toward a welcoming and inclusive campus community.

“Many see the Confederate flag as an inflammatory symbol of oppression and constant reminder of a dark period in the history of the United States in which slavery was a legal,” Huddleston continued, while “Others may simply view this flag as a symbol of shared southern heritage and in memory of the Civil War.”

Huddleston said the flag and other symbols “are not condoned by Framingham State University, as they violate the core values of our institution and not considered consistent with our desire to maintain a safe, respectful and welcoming campus community for all.”

He further described “bias incidents” as “situations that may not rise to the level of a criminal act, but still clearly communicate offensive or derogatory behaviors.”

Observing that students on campus in general may have suffered a traumatic reaction from seeing an image of the Confederate flag, Huddleston continued, “We recognize that bias incidents are upsetting for the entire campus community, but especially for the target(s) and witness(es) of these incidents.”

“It is strongly suggested that anyone impacted by a bias incident find someone to speak with,” he wrote.

According to FSU campus newspaper The Gatepost, social-media displayed a mixed reaction to Huddleston’s email:

On the popular anonymous social media app Yik Yak, one student said the Confederate flag controversy was “legitimately embarrassing” and “someone is getting in trouble for such stupid ********.”

Another student disagreed and compared the Confederate flag to the swastika. Adding, “That’s the issue. In case you were somehow still confused in 2015.”

One anonymous student posted, “Carry a copy of the constitution tomorrow, see how fast the PC police emails fly.”

One student related the bias incident involving the Confederate flag to the Star Wars films.

“So if I have a Rebel Alliance wallpaper, am I gonna get reported to the Empire?”

Huddleston said the university may hold a campus-wide forum on the history of the Confederate flag, so that students can discuss the reasons why they either defend or reject it.

In September, Framingham Patch reported that FSU – a public university – was once again recognized for its “diversity and inclusion” on campus. It received a Higher Education Excellence in Diversity (HEED) award, which is bestowed on colleges and universities by INSIGHT into Diversity, reportedly the oldest and largest diversity magazine and website in higher education.

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University Students Comforted With 'Counseling' After Seeing Confederate Flag on Laptop. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/25/university-students-comforted-counseling-seeing-confederate-flag-laptop/

Confederate flag sparks controversy, conversation on Framingham State campus - News - MetroWest Daily News, Framingham, MA - Framingham, MA
http://m.metrowestdailynews.com/article/20151123/NEWS/151128280/1994/NEWS?rssfeed=true/


The kid with the lap top was breaking no law.. don't like what you see.. don't look. If it offends you.. tough ****.. again don't look.

Personally, I don't like to see guys walking around with their pants to their knees... don't really care to look at the "fruit of the loom" tags as I walk behind them. But they have that right.. don't they?.. do I have the right to tell them to pull their pants up.. no I don't.. so I don't like what I see... I don't look.. simple

What does this person plan to do, never go below the Mason / Dixon line?... say in the North forever. Got news for you, I see the rebel flags in the north as well.. and it doesn't seem to bother anyone. Why, because it is free speech.. that's why.

Get over it, whining little nerds


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Sat 11/28/15 03:30 AM
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PTSD … For Seeing a Confederate Flag? University Madness Continues.


University students in Massachusetts who were upset by an image of a Confederate flag sticker on another student’s laptop were offered counseling services at Framingham State University.

The offer came after the university’s “chief diversity and inclusion officer,” Sean Huddleston, described the display of the small Confederate flag sticker as a “bias incident.”

According to Metrowest Daily News, students filed two “bias reports” within the past month as a result of a student displaying the flag in some way. The most recent bias incident – reported on November 19 – was a report of a student having seen a Confederate flag sticker on another student’s laptop.

“Many see the Confederate flag as an inflammatory symbol of oppression and constant reminder of a dark period in the history of the United States in which slavery was a legal,” Huddleston continued, while “Others may simply view this flag as a symbol of shared southern heritage and in memory of the Civil War.”

One has to wonder: What would “counseling services” designed to address the supposed trauma of seeing the Confederate flag involve?

Counselors and therapists usually see their jobs as helping people become more rational, balanced or objective in their viewpoints.

Therapists also help people who are the victims of real crimes or emergencies – such as rape, sexual abuse, theft, assault or attempted murder – vent and process their feelings about the awful event. The same goes for prolonged traumas such as Nazi Germany, the Vietnam War, Iraq-Afghanistan or other combat experience.

Therapists are supposed to be nonjudgmental. And the starting point for any psychotherapy would be the person’s feelings, for sure.

But how could any therapist worth his or her professional salt be expected to treat seeing a Confederate flag sticker on a fellow student’s laptop as the psychological equivalent of rape, incest, torture or war? Could a therapist that delusional be of any help to you?

It seems to me like these referrals for counseling at some universities have more to do with the needs and feelings of certain professors and campus administrators than the well-being of actual students.

We have politically correct university personnel who wish to be seen as so progressive, so anti-racist and so conspicuously compassionate that they make it known how concerned they are about the feelings of students forced to live in a world where not everyone shares their opinion or attitude about everything.

I want to hear from the actual students who feel traumatized to the point of needing psychotherapeutic consultation in order to cope with having seen a Confederate flag. I’d also like to explore with them how they expect to cope in a world where not everyone will always agree with them about politics, race or anything.

The Confederate flag can actually be associated with positive as well as negative things. Yes, the flag was a symbol of a society based on legalized slavery and coercively imposed racism. But the flag is also a reminder that such a society eventually collapsed. The Confederacy lost the Civil War. The slave-dependent Southern economy could not hold a candle to the industrializing, economically free North. The slaves were freed after the Union president took a principled stand against evil and injustice. While the existence of slavery, particularly in the United States, was an inexcusable monstrosity, it also says something that the United States ultimately banished it. We were the first society in history to do so.

But would a therapist be allowed to approach the subject this way at Framingham State University? Especially in a way that made the United States look good? It seems unlikely, at least if the therapist wished to keep his or her job. These referrals and incidents have less to do with mental health and more to do with an obsessive, distorted and twisted need to turn young adults into victim mentalities, from a specific, one-sided political point-of-view.

The Confederate flag is said to be “inflammatory” and therefore a risk factor in the mental health of young students at college.

I looked up “inflammatory” at the Oxford online dictionary. The definition is, “…speech or writing arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings.”

I don’t understand how a Confederate flag could be considered “inflammatory” by this definition. I can see how a Confederate flag might arouse any number of emotions; not all of them positive. Like many people, I oppose slavery and I don’t believe the Confederate side should have won in the U.S. Civil War. But it does not make me angry to see the flag. Perhaps it does arouse anger in some, but I see no reason why it necessarily must arouse anger – to say nothing of violence – in any or most who see it.

In fact, I become much more angry and upset at the idea of college students being exploited for political reasons and taught to view themselves as weak, helpless victims unable even to manage or control their reactions to a political symbol with little or no relevance to the present.

I suspect that these actions at Framingham State University have less to do with concern for students’ emotions than they are a back door attempt to outlaw politically incorrect or undesirable symbols on campuses. They’re looking for mental health professionals to validate their claims. “Why of course the mere sight of a Confederate flag arouses anger and violence in students; how can anyone be expected to maintain mental stability and reality orientation in the midst of such horrific assaults on their psyches?”

Communists, Nazis and all the petty little dictators in the world, including those who dominate the humanities departments of most college campuses, often seek mental health professionals and psychiatrists to advance their political agenda. Many of them fall for it; not this one.

This idea that thoughts, images or “triggers” can cause emotional reactions in people over which they have supposedly no control is a convenient way to expand censorship, not only on campuses but in the wider society.

Watch for the use of the term “inflammatory” in future public debates over censorship laws in America. Censorship can happen here, even in America, especially if the majority of us continue to act indifferently to our Constitutional rights.

College campuses are setting the table for censorship by trying to get across the idea that we cannot control our emotional reactions, and that government must step in to protect us from our own feelings of discomfort.

Institutions of higher learning should be turning out fierce, strong and objective thinkers unafraid of dissension. Instead, colleges like Framingham University invite mental collapse by fostering the development of students who are afraid of their own (or another’s) intellectual shadow.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 11/28/15 05:20 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 11/28/15 05:23 AM

a sticker is free speech, which is why we wont catch anyone in jail for displaying one


but a campus, school, or work environment can set guidelines and standards that their alumni, students , employees,,e tc,,,

SIGN OFF on to set the standard for that environment


as to the rest, comparing an internet movement like Black lives matter to an oppressive slaveholding government like the confederates,,,


not so much of an accurate analogy,,



Seems we forget that Oblowme and Clinton locked a guy up for expressing his opinion on youtube because they didn't want to admit a policy failure on Benghazi before an election.....

And these are liberal run universities......

just sayin

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/28/15 09:24 AM

Conservatives pundits do not make up the DOJ

ACH! Only in my dreams biggrin

were the confeds not SLAVE HOLDERS? fighting for the right to govern themselves to be able to permit themselves to continue ENSLAVING PEOPLE for profit?...lol

They already were governing themselves, the Yanks didn't profit from them. They didn't like the South French aristocracy either. laugh
--------------------
" ENSLAVING PEOPLE ".. Stop screaming ..your not on campus.

Africans sold Africans for at least 300 years .. to each other, before the Europeans showed up & brought them.

Try looking at it that way... There are a whole lot of people & flags & stickers to hate before white Americans. Besides... White people give away lots of free sh@t.
Where do think Oprah got her 'favorite things' idea?
laugh

And I can assure you, none of my DNA had anything to do with it. Yes..I checked. We had our own problems.
And none of us are walking around complaining of ancestral genetic flashbacks or battleflagphobia


* Déjà vu.. We had this conversation already... Next customer! smokin *


so the answer to 'were confeds enslaving people' IS?

and the logic that people should reserve distrust and/or criticism unless its something that noone else ever did before, only seems to be posed as an argument when AMERICAN history is brought up



living in AMERICA, americans tend to concern themselves with what happens and has happened in AMERICA, because well, you know, its the environment they exist in,,,,