In a world where single people are often out in the public working, dating, shopping with kids in tow do you think a campaign where See it Report it was rewarded is being suggested do you think it would make us any safer?

For me the reward would be saving others lives, but as in the case in San Bernardino neighbors actually seen suspicious behavior but where afraid to report it because they where worried they would be branded as racist's. I don't think it will work because of to much political correctness.

I think its just sad that we now have to have some type of program to get us to report real suspicious behavior....

there's always a reason why the government "hides" things from us...

Seems odd to me that this newlywed and father would storm out of a party and come back so angry that he wanted to just wipe out his coworkers and the whole program that provided him a affluent standard of living. Was he angry about the party? Or what was being taught at the training? Was this a religious difference? Sex education is a dicey subject for many people.

now they are saying they quit going to the mosque about 2 weeks ago...


what gets me, is all his muslim family and friends are saying "i don't know why"... someone knows why and isn't telling...

Yea my guess is they are scared. They are going to be blamed if they knew something or not. I am sure they are getting death threats.

What is going to be bad is the whole community is going to be a mess for years. You have half a dozen different minorities represented in that kind of staff. Some will draw closer others turn on each other. The media will hound the families for months/years.

To get pictures of my kids they would throw rocks at our windows to make them look out.

I understand what you are saying but does it matter, there's lots of things that make me cross but it doesn't give me the right to kill and leave probably hundreds of people (relatives and friends of the deceased) heartbroken.
Cold blooded murder, simple as that.

No.

The whole "if you see something say something" campaign never worked.

At best these programs offer a false sense of security that other people will handle it, "they'll" see and say something.
People generally won't take the risk unless it's an immediate threat.
And that's what 911 is for.

At worst you get a million calls about "foreign looking people" loitering, and a whole new campaign about racial and cultural sensitivity, which then just undermines the "see something say something" campaign since people don't want to be the racist that reports the minority.

And what can the police actually investigate? It has to be serious actionable information, and not anonymous, otherwise all they can do is drive around the area or maybe knock on someone's door.

You want a "see it report it" that actually works and makes people safer?
Create more community programs.
The first person to fill out a card signed by 200 of their neighbors wins 10 grand or something.
Your state, federal, city representatives and educators or whatever have a free barbecue in the park once a month.

Spying on your neighbors won't net terrorists.
Being friends with your neighbors, knowing exactly who is living around you, being a close knit community and supporting each other to figure out who is living around you, will.

I would not agree with harassing any group.

I do think when you see someone who seems to be amassing weapons, having chronic tantrums, family crisis, workplace dysfunction, travel/purchases that do not seem to jive with their financial means, and suddenly abandoning affiliations that if more people would heads up and report then yes you might have some false reports but you might also get someone in crisis intervention before it gets to critical mass. Maybe just with caring and inclusion.

Maybe it is actually reporting discrimination more often.

I don't think people radicalize in a vacume. Someone is in all the cases I read falling off cliffs for a long time before they resort to this kind of behavior.

Doesn't seem sad that a young professional had to go half away around the world to find a partner or a young woman had to leave her family, country, and culture to find a man. I would think if dealing with the agencies I have that trying to get a young wife into this country must have been a nightmare.

Not even going to try and get into how much job stress that the kind of job he was doing might have effected his thinking. It is ridiculous that young families are working the kind of hours they do just to keep going. And may aren't. They are up to their eyes in debt.

IM all for better safe than sorry, but also for practicality

there are many people just naturally suspicious of everything so that such a policy may really cause quite a back up in sorting out what was truly potential danger

any and all safeguards will never overcome the element of surprise...
intervention can only be realized after the fact...

See It, Report It-
In my community, the police are interested in knowing what is going on, who is doing what and with whom.. and I have NO problem with that..
If I see a bunch of drug dealers in the school parking lot across from my house, I am calling (have called) the cops..The police have shown up, they ask them for their id and spend a bit of time talking with them.. and leave.. but they've got the id/license plate, etc. and they'll keep an eye out, right? and so do we neighbors.. we know what is going on in our backyard.
I know all my neighbors - most of us have lived here for over 30 years..so when unusual things begin happening we see it and report it.
yea,.. I am a NIMBY person..

Alexus De Tocqueville in his essay "Democracy in America" has a section where he talks about how, in America, each citizen takes the personal responsibility for the identification and capture of criminals in its society. That as a people we would not stand for this kind of behavior amongst our citizens.

We have gotten away from this. We all just assume that it is the police, FBI or some other "alphabet soup" organization that will "take care of this," and that we have no part in it. We are even encouraged to come home, close our blinds, turn on the alarm, and live in fear. We've become so afraid of what others will think, that we don't even watch our own neighborhoods, let alone take the responsibility of ensuring that those that live near us are safe and sound.

This closed off society that we have today spurs isolation amongst people. We should be more welcoming to our neighbors (even old man Johnson who is grumpy and distempered) and our co-workers (yes, the boss too), especially if the are "new to the block." You don't have to like a persons religion, job, or political opinions to be accepting and respectful of them. I believe if we, as a whole society, started doing this again - as opposed to our current culture of divisiveness - you would see a change towards the better in all respects.

It sure as hell couldn't hurt anything.

Seems like people are living down to what is expected of them instead of living up to what is expected and this is critical ENCOURAGED in them.

It seems like it is out of fashion to catch anyone being good and say Thank you, Good Job, would you join us, can I help with that.

People will scowl and snarl about rotten kids but rarely just chat or praise them.

This is especially true in the work place. Good leadership skills are rare.

I was a really tough boss but I can count on one hand the number of times I had to fire someone from a job they were well trained for and rewarded for doing well.

We have become way too radicalized in this country. The pro this, the anti that, the lefties, the righties. The political and religious divisions in America are turning this country into the middle east.
We need to learn to live together and grow up.

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Ayn Rand was a hypocrite.