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Topic: Disruptors in Mr.Trump Rallies
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Sun 03/13/16 09:27 AM
It is your right to protest, same as Trumps supporters. The 1 difference is we are not creating chaos with your protest as you are with our support for Mr.Trump. He has touched a nerve with law-abiding citizens that has long been needed, and the same as lazy welfare folks that hate to have there lives changed. Moveon.Org, Black Lives Matter, has many welfare recipients backing them, taxpayers are FEDUP with your agendas, your intimidation, your racist ways to change this nation. All lives Matter mind you!!!!We will not back off, better get used to the fact. Accept the fact that you need to get a job, accept the fact to pay your share of taxes, and accept the fact you are out numbered when it comes to preserving our values and our nation. If it's that hard to make the change for you to make your lives better, then leave this land. Don't let the door smack your *** when leaving. We want productive, smart, innovative, positive people to make this country #1 again. Your time of sponging and mooching on us taxpayers has expired. LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Permanently..........
I/We support my Law Enforcement nationally, I/We support my Constitution, and I/We do support our 1st and 2nd Amendment right.
LEAVE, go mooch and intimidate elsewhere................

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Sun 03/13/16 09:30 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/13/16 09:34 AM
lol, yes, all the people who don't support trump are lazy, welfare receiving, non job having, racists

the WHOLE and only reason to not support trump is welfare



laugh laugh

unbelievable


more advice, perhaps if dissention makes people feel 'intimidated' they should ,,,I cant even say it because I feel its so ignorant to insist people leave when they don't like something


but perhaps that WHOLE constitution should be applied for EVERYONE

as much a right as it is for Trump to say vile and disruptive things about mexicians, blacks, muslims,,etc,,,


it is just as much right for those who take offense with his rhetoric, to be equally vile and/or disruptive in their 'free speech'

not for nothing, but isn't it so silly, how as americans,, that term 'free speech' gets thrown out whenever we want to insist on being as insulting and degrading and 'disruptive' as we feel

but that same 'free speech' passion gets thrown out the window when we are on the receiving end,,,?



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Sun 03/13/16 09:41 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 03/13/16 09:41 AM
BLM was created to further the elitist, socialist-fascist aims of George Soros and his minions. Their members have been hoodwinked into thinking that they are doing something about the sometimes true, and mostly fictitious racism of society in general, and the police in particular.via FB

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Sun 03/13/16 09:43 AM
yeah, they said the same types of things about Malcolm x supporters and mlk supporters


change needs to happen,, its what all politicians run on,,,what makes it so difficult to believe it when black people say it?

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/13/16 09:56 AM
yeah,,, I'm pretty sure there is zero connection between a billionaire and the kids who started the BLM movement

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Sun 03/13/16 09:58 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 03/13/16 09:56 AM

yeah, they said the same types of things about Malcolm x supporters and mlk supporters


change needs to happen,, its what all politicians run on,,,what makes it so difficult to believe it when black people say it?

You Guys have been Hoodwinked by the Top-Conman in the Business!laugh
Hope you all like being Cannon-Fodder for the Left Elite!

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Sun 03/13/16 10:06 AM

yeah,,, I'm pretty sure there is zero connection between a billionaire and the kids who started the BLM movement


"The Washington Times reported on how George Soros provided in excess of $30 million in seed money to groups affiliated with #BlackLivesMatter.

Now that #BlackLivesMatter has shown that it has the capacity to be a disruptive force in American society and increase misery and danger for black Americans living in inner cities, the deep pocketed Progressive donors are looking to increase their funding:

Some of the biggest donors on the left plan to meet behind closed doors next week in Washington with leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement and their allies to discuss funding the burgeoning protest movement, POLITICO has learned.

The meetings are taking place at the annual winter gathering of the Democracy Alliance major liberal donor club, which runs from Tuesday evening through Saturday morning and is expected to draw Democratic financial heavyweights, including Tom Steyer and Paul Egerman.

The DA, as the club is known in Democratic circles, is recommending its donors step up check writing to a handful of endorsed groups that have supported the Black Lives Matter movement. And the club and some of its members also are considering ways to funnel support directly to scrappier local groups that have utilized confrontational tactics to inject their grievances into the political debate.



According to a Democracy Alliance draft agenda obtained by POLITICO, movement leaders will be featured guests at a Tuesday dinner with major donors. The dinner, which technically precedes the official conference kickoff, will focus on “what kind of support and resources are needed from the allied funders during this critical moment of immediate struggle and long-term movement building.”


Yeah, am I'm pretty sure you are completely clueless about BLM.

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Sun 03/13/16 10:08 AM
I really like how my friend puts it on Facebook:

All right, I am going to say it. Yes, Black Lives Matter! ut where are those [screaming] and rioting people when one of my friends get[s] killed by their black neighbor. Is it only black lives matter when they are killed by other races – but when my friend get[s] kill[ed] by another black man his life didn’t matter? No outrage, no screaming, no marches, no [destructive] riots, no federal investigation, no comment from the president – nothing!!

I am going to say it, murder is murder and should be the same no matter who commits it. In the end my friend is still dead and I have to watch his family weep while lowering his lifeless body in a box, down a dark hole.

Am I missing something?

The logic here is unassailable. But most are afraid to say it — especially if they’re not black — because it will seem racist.

Yet the error of racism, as I’ve said many times, is elevating race to the most important or only relevant factor in human relationships. Individualism is the best and only mental vaccine against racism.

The Black Lives Matter movement was formed in response to the belief that all or most police action is racist in nature. It’s a sweeping and unjust generalization in itself. Many facts shoot holes in the fallacy, including the fact that much (if not most) violence against blacks is done by other black people, and many police officers are not white, but are, in fact, black, Hispanic, Asian or any number of races (or mixes).

The deeper implication here is that blacks are — by definition — victims, merely by the fact of their race; while whites are — by definition — victimizers, merely by the definition of their race.

It’s a convenient and self-serving attribution for those who (whether white, black or of any other race) make victimization the central purpose of their lives. But it does nothing to advance actual justice. Actual, objective justice is served only by reference to the facts of a particular situation. This includes viewing people primarily as individuals, not as members of any particular race.

The purpose of a “Black Lives Matter” movement is no different than the purpose of a “White Lives Matter” movement or any other kind of movement where race is elevated to the only relevant or important factor: the fostering of unearned guilt. Because that movement’s explicit nature and intentions are collectivist, rather than individualist, “Black Lives Matter” is about as non-racist an organization as any white supremacy group.

When a Black Lives Matter protester disrupts a political campaign rally, it’s an unspoken (if not spoken) dare: “If you disagree with me, that must mean you don’t believe black lives matter; which means you’re a racist. So go ahead. Criticize me. I dare you.”

That’s why I admire my friend (who happens to be white) for writing what he did. Thank goodness it’s still legal to do so, in our increasingly coercive and walking-on-eggshells society.

In psychology we call the guilt-inducing methods of Black Lives Matter “emotional reasoning.” I’ll bet you didn’t know that cognitive psychotherapists consider emotional reasoning indicative of a mental disorder. It does not make me racist to say so. Because when someone accuses you of something without proof or evidence, and puts you on the defensive the moment you attempt to prove them wrong, then the error is for having accepted the unfounded assertion in the first place.

“You’re racist. What? You’re disputing me? That proves how racist you are!”

In logic, you cannot prove a negative. You cannot prove that you’re “not racist.” The onus of proof is on the one making the claim. Black Lives Matter organizers see no need to offer proof or evidence — and they’re counting on you to fall for it. It’s the politics and psychology of intimidation, plain and simple.

If the Obama years taught us nothing else, they have shown us how people who support policies of socialism, wealth redistribution, and general government control over the economy have no credible arguments in support of their policies, and — more significantly — do not think or feel they do. If they did, they would not have to call everyone racist who disagrees with them. If Joe Biden (an old white man) ends up as the next president, carrying on and expanding Obama’s policies, what will they call you when you disagree with these policies then? Anti-geriatric?

The double standard is at work when the most recent shooting in Virginia is contrasted with the June shooting in Charleston SC. In the Charleston shooting, the killer was a white supremacist racist who openly killed black people for this reason. Of course that was a vicious and ugly act of racism. But the Virginia shooting — every bit as cold-blooded and racially motivated — was committed by a black, gay man against whites, because he hates heterosexual whites. We’re supposed to sympathize with his plight, even if not necessarily condone his actions, while the Charleston shooter is (rightly) condemned as an inexcusable, hateful brute who deserves whatever he gets.

Why the difference? It’s because of what my reader said.

The moment you start treating black lives as either more or less important than anyone else’s life is the moment you have become a racist.

https://drhurd.com/2015/08/29/do-black-lives-matter-or-do-lives-matter/

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Sun 03/13/16 10:09 AM

yeah, they said the same types of things about Malcolm x supporters and mlk supporters


change needs to happen,, its what all politicians run on,,,what makes it so difficult to believe it when black people say it?

Change could and would happen if the hand full of Black people would be civilized to protest in a way to preserve the communities businesses that supply income, instead of burning to the ground and destroying the lives of others means to support their families. Some Black people and few White people take it so personally that that they are being preyed upon for our nations disabilities for racial and financial equality by conservative values. Not so. This Government has created this mess, have been for years, the separation of our nation is them, not us. Don't you find it ironic that "We The People" suffer financially, emotionally, and to some degree, mentally, while our Government makes millions for themselves? They care less of what America deals with, even though they supposedly represent America/us. We have reached the point of desperation to survive, I know I have, and so tired of my feeling that way. If we the taxpayers suffer from economy issues, why not the Government as well? Trickle down despair does not include the Elite, and it should. We suffer, they should also, end the 2 way street BS. Trump 2016............

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Sun 03/13/16 10:10 AM


yeah,,, I'm pretty sure there is zero connection between a billionaire and the kids who started the BLM movement


"The Washington Times reported on how George Soros provided in excess of $30 million in seed money to groups affiliated with #BlackLivesMatter.

Now that #BlackLivesMatter has shown that it has the capacity to be a disruptive force in American society and increase misery and danger for black Americans living in inner cities, the deep pocketed Progressive donors are looking to increase their funding:

Some of the biggest donors on the left plan to meet behind closed doors next week in Washington with leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement and their allies to discuss funding the burgeoning protest movement, POLITICO has learned.

The meetings are taking place at the annual winter gathering of the Democracy Alliance major liberal donor club, which runs from Tuesday evening through Saturday morning and is expected to draw Democratic financial heavyweights, including Tom Steyer and Paul Egerman.

The DA, as the club is known in Democratic circles, is recommending its donors step up check writing to a handful of endorsed groups that have supported the Black Lives Matter movement. And the club and some of its members also are considering ways to funnel support directly to scrappier local groups that have utilized confrontational tactics to inject their grievances into the political debate.



According to a Democracy Alliance draft agenda obtained by POLITICO, movement leaders will be featured guests at a Tuesday dinner with major donors. The dinner, which technically precedes the official conference kickoff, will focus on “what kind of support and resources are needed from the allied funders during this critical moment of immediate struggle and long-term movement building.”


Yeah, am I'm pretty sure you are completely clueless about BLM.


I'm pretty sure you are clueless about reading comprehension

I said Soros and the FOUNDERS of BLM, its source, its reason for existing

in that it was not created because of anything SOROS did,,


'affiliated' means whatever offshoots have happened since,,,


Rock's photo
Sun 03/13/16 10:15 AM
Liberals, don't like free speech.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/13/16 10:27 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/13/16 10:28 AM
nor do trump and his supporters(Edited for accuracy, all conservatives are not alike)


they whine and cry or they run and hide when its not supporting their agenda,,,

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Sun 03/13/16 10:32 AM

nor do trump and his supporters(Edited for accuracy, all conservatives are not alike)


they whine and cry or they run and hide when its not supporting their agenda,,,


huh.. i remember a lot of people saying the same thing about obarry too... i mean, you have to be racist to not support a black president...

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Sun 03/13/16 10:33 AM
This reminds me of a job I had awhile back...the company employed all races and religions...the "black" people all volunteered to transfer to the new assembly line...5 assembly lines total...all day long they would yell to eachother ..
"hey..***** toss me a rag...yo *****, throw me a screw...what's up my *****.." then a new guy...a native got hired...an opening on line 5 was open...the guy would work amidst all the guys...in an attempt to fit in he yelled out to one of the guys..."
hey *****...toss me that drill"...after a moment or two of silence he went and grabbed the drill...after work all the black guys were waiting in the parking lot for the guy...next thing you knew the natives came up to back their friend...management stepped outside and put a stop to what would have been one hell of a fight...the next day the native was let go for being racist...sounds like the Trump rally....BLM is a horrible excuse of representing black people...As far as Trump goes...he has a dark sense of humor...but a bunch of people rioting because they don't like the guy....idiots

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Sun 03/13/16 10:39 AM


nor do trump and his supporters(Edited for accuracy, all conservatives are not alike)


they whine and cry or they run and hide when its not supporting their agenda,,,


huh.. i remember a lot of people saying the same thing about obarry too... i mean, you have to be racist to not support a black president...



I do too, rhetoric does not impact only one group,, that is why I changed my response about 'conservatives' To Trump and his supporters


who, as someone else pointed out, vows to be hard on Putin but cant even handle a news commentator or protestors without tucking tail,,,,


who says every vile thing about people under the free speech auspice and then when other people publicly dissent from his opinion, whines and threatens lawsuits or hides away


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Sun 03/13/16 10:46 AM
a Heads-Up!
It's BLM and the Lefties who rioted,Not Trump-Supporters!
BTW,MoveOn,Soros' Brainchild has promised more Violence of that sort in the Future,it's right on their Website!

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Sun 03/13/16 10:47 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/13/16 10:51 AM

a Heads-Up!
It's BLM and the Lefties who rioted,Not Trump-Supporters!
BTW,MoveOn,Soros' Brainchild has promised more Violence of that sort in the Future,it's right on their Website!





were 'we' talking about riots,,? or is this another thread?

cause I was talking about how trump supporters beat the crap out of some homeless Mexican and trump praised their passion

and how trump supporters descended violently upon a black 'protestor' and trump stated that he should have been violently attacked for yelling out

and even today Trump looking into paying legal bills for a supporter who sucker punched another attendee because he may have given the middle finger to the crowd,, which apparently seems to be ok with Trump too

and tying all that into the ridiculous conclusion that Trump doesn't incite violence

or that 'welfare' recipients are to blame and should therefore leave America for not wanting to support Trump

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 03/13/16 10:51 AM


a Heads-Up!
It's BLM and the Lefties who rioted,Not Trump-Supporters!
BTW,MoveOn,Soros' Brainchild has promised more Violence of that sort in the Future,it's right on their Website!





were 'we' talking about riots,,? or is this another thread?

cause I was talking about how trump supporters beat the crap out of some homeless Mexican and trump praised their passion

and how trump supporters descended violently upon a black 'protestor' and trump stated that he should have been violently attacked for yelling out

and even today Trump looking into paying legal bills for a supporter who sucker punched another attendee because he may have given the middle finger to the crowd,, which apparently seems to be ok with Trump too

and tying all that into the ridiculous conclusion that Trump doesn't incite violence
rofl rofl rofl
Apples and Oranges again!
Better look up the Identity of that "Homeless Mexican"!rofl

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 03/13/16 10:52 AM

It is your right to protest, same as Trumps supporters. The 1 difference is we are not creating chaos with your protest as you are with our support for Mr.Trump. He has touched a nerve with law-abiding citizens that has long been needed, and the same as lazy welfare folks that hate to have there lives changed. Moveon.Org, Black Lives Matter, has many welfare recipients backing them, taxpayers are FEDUP with your agendas, your intimidation, your racist ways to change this nation. All lives Matter mind you!!!!We will not back off, better get used to the fact. Accept the fact that you need to get a job, accept the fact to pay your share of taxes, and accept the fact you are out numbered when it comes to preserving our values and our nation. If it's that hard to make the change for you to make your lives better, then leave this land. Don't let the door smack your *** when leaving. We want productive, smart, innovative, positive people to make this country #1 again. Your time of sponging and mooching on us taxpayers has expired. LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Permanently..........
I/We support my Law Enforcement nationally, I/We support my Constitution, and I/We do support our 1st and 2nd Amendment right.
LEAVE, go mooch and intimidate elsewhere................
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/13/16 10:59 AM



a Heads-Up!
It's BLM and the Lefties who rioted,Not Trump-Supporters!
BTW,MoveOn,Soros' Brainchild has promised more Violence of that sort in the Future,it's right on their Website!





were 'we' talking about riots,,? or is this another thread?

cause I was talking about how trump supporters beat the crap out of some homeless Mexican and trump praised their passion

and how trump supporters descended violently upon a black 'protestor' and trump stated that he should have been violently attacked for yelling out

and even today Trump looking into paying legal bills for a supporter who sucker punched another attendee because he may have given the middle finger to the crowd,, which apparently seems to be ok with Trump too

and tying all that into the ridiculous conclusion that Trump doesn't incite violence
rofl rofl rofl
Apples and Oranges again!
Better look up the Identity of that "Homeless Mexican"!rofl



oh, did they wake up the homeless man and do a background check first?

if not, what would his identity change?

if you know his identity or how that changes the facts that two men supporting trump and assuming they had come upon an illegal immigrant (their own words) , proceeded to beat him with a pole, after urinating on him?

please enlighten us


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