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What exactly is Evolution? How did it come about? Is it based on on scientific fact or is it just another made up religion against Christianity?
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed.
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Edited by
Thorb
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Sun 04/17/16 07:22 AM
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Its a theory in a field of Science that is compiling what is believed to be pretty good evidence.
Through it we have been able to predict numerous discoveries and relative dates that did go along with them. That is the strength of the belief in it. People do not set up pews and preach it weekly in an elaborately decorated building on the highest mount dedicated to its merits. So I doubt any believers think its a religion. Its professors are not asking for money for support from these believers either. Most of them are working in a field [often literally] following geological and other scientific predictors. |
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc....
Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. |
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What exactly is Evolution? How did it come about? Is it based on on scientific fact or is it just another made up religion against Christianity? Evolution is science. IMO an inexact science. There is more than one theory of it. If it is intentional, then it is against all monotheism, not just Christianity. |
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Edited by
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Sun 04/17/16 07:45 AM
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did!  It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html  Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her!   
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did! It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her! Check out Darwin quotes on "Quote Mine" The lack of transitional fossils and the fact that DNA makes all species reproduce after their own kind disproves his theory. Quote #2.6 [Re: "lack" of transitional fossils] But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (Origin of Species, 1859). Quote #2.1 [Re: Evolutionary theory violates the basic rules of science] "I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." - From a letter to Asa Gray, Harvard biology professor, cited in Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, N.C. Gillespie, p.2) |
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Say goodbye to your pinky toe.
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sun 04/17/16 09:18 AM
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did! It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her! Check out Darwin quotes on "Quote Mine" The lack of transitional fossils and the fact that DNA makes all species reproduce after their own kind disproves his theory. Quote #2.6 [Re: "lack" of transitional fossils] But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (Origin of Species, 1859). Quote #2.1 [Re: Evolutionary theory violates the basic rules of science] "I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." - From a letter to Asa Gray, Harvard biology professor, cited in Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, N.C. Gillespie, p.2) you all really need to do better than that! |
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did! It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her! Check out Darwin quotes on "Quote Mine" The lack of transitional fossils and the fact that DNA makes all species reproduce after their own kind disproves his theory. Quote #2.6 [Re: "lack" of transitional fossils] But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (Origin of Species, 1859). Quote #2.1 [Re: Evolutionary theory violates the basic rules of science] "I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." - From a letter to Asa Gray, Harvard biology professor, cited in Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, N.C. Gillespie, p.2) you all really need to do better than that! Are these genuine quotes from Darwin ? |
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did! It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her! Check out Darwin quotes on "Quote Mine" The lack of transitional fossils and the fact that DNA makes all species reproduce after their own kind disproves his theory. Quote #2.6 [Re: "lack" of transitional fossils] But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (Origin of Species, 1859). Quote #2.1 [Re: Evolutionary theory violates the basic rules of science] "I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." - From a letter to Asa Gray, Harvard biology professor, cited in Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, N.C. Gillespie, p.2) 1. Darwin was not the final word on Evolution, he was one of the pioneers. More has been discovered and understood since his original writings. 2. Evolution and Natural Selection are not identical theories. One includes the other as a subset. 3. DNA does NOT result in identical, non-mutated creatures. You obviously have not read any accurate science if you think it does. The discovery of DNA and how it works, served to enhance and better illustrate how evolution really does occur. 4. Anyone who thinks "transitional fossils" are required to prove either Natural Selection or Evolution, knows absolutely nothing about either subject. You need to do your homework, and read something OTHER than creationist BS to do it. By the way, an amazing number of people don't realize, that fossils are rare. And they aren't rare because there used to be that many fewer critters running around, they are rare, because the VAST MAJORITY of creatures which die, DO NOT BECOME FOSSILIZED. And if you still want to pretend there's no such thing as Evolution, explain why there are new inoculation resistant strains of various germs and viruses every year. |
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Evolution was introduced by the devil, to influence your mind against god... kind of like the way microwave popcorn and flea shampoo were as well...
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc.... Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. I am wondering in what you have duplicated in that you took something and made it evolve into another (anything) naturally without doing a GMO experiement |
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc.... Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. I am wondering in what you have duplicated in that you took something and made it evolve into another (anything) naturally without doing a GMO experiement lol... are you serious? or just being funny? |
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All I know is the father of evolution recanted the whole thing. On his death bed. Urban Legend,he never did! It is more difficult to find the truth on the Internet. The truth is that Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta, wrote in The Christian in February, 1922, “I was present at his death bed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier. We think the story of his conversion was fabricated in the U.S.A... the whole story has no foundation whatever.” http://www.younginquirers.com/newsletter/0503/darwin.html Seems that "Christian" Lady Hope was a Liar,a bit un-Christian of her! Well sounds like a case of she said , she said. The world may never know... |
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc.... Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. I am wondering in what you have duplicated in that you took something and made it evolve into another (anything) naturally without doing a GMO experiement lol... are you serious? or just being funny? no I am serious. I know some about science but not much. Personally I do not see and I may be seeing it wrong. I do not see where natural evolution is apparent. My view and your view may be completely Alien to each other. Like I remember in school a poster that shows a fish then a walking fish then a monkey then ape then human. Is this evolution? Is this what you mean? I can not see that as anything but fanticy. See the bible does say to consider a matter. not to just reject it. Many may see how I believe as make believe and that's fine with me. we all need to prove things to ourselves not just believe what someone says. I see this a problem in religion. But also in science. I have said much science is good but I do not believe most science goes against the bible if it can be proven. we have just matured. discovered new things. Electricity we can not see but it works. without it we would be no different than 200 years ago. Is it science? Yes it can be measured and duplicated but not normally seen. Lightning has been around forever. Scientists have learned it is very important to our earth. Its good to learn about. But then mans science a lot of the time to me is foolishness. like spending billions to see if a drop of water is on mars. Whats the purpose? We will never live on Mars. We do not know whats in our deepest oceans. So I am serious because I see science as good and then as bad. to have another agenda instead of really good for human kind (speaking of evolution). The bibles deep meaning is for the good of people. So whatever is to be good for us is good. their has to be a balance. It is personal and yet far reaching for all. The past can help us with the future and the OJT of life molds us hopefully to better human beings. I do not see where evolution molds our understanding of life. |
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc.... Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. I am wondering in what you have duplicated in that you took something and made it evolve into another (anything) naturally without doing a GMO experiement lol... are you serious? or just being funny? no I am serious. I know some about science but not much. Personally I do not see and I may be seeing it wrong. I do not see where natural evolution is apparent. My view and your view may be completely Alien to each other. Like I remember in school a poster that shows a fish then a walking fish then a monkey then ape then human. Is this evolution? Is this what you mean? I can not see that as anything but fanticy. See the bible does say to consider a matter. not to just reject it. Many may see how I believe as make believe and that's fine with me. we all need to prove things to ourselves not just believe what someone says. I see this a problem in religion. But also in science. I have said much science is good but I do not believe most science goes against the bible if it can be proven. we have just matured. discovered new things. Electricity we can not see but it works. without it we would be no different than 200 years ago. Is it science? Yes it can be measured and duplicated but not normally seen. Lightning has been around forever. Scientists have learned it is very important to our earth. Its good to learn about. But then mans science a lot of the time to me is foolishness. like spending billions to see if a drop of water is on mars. Whats the purpose? We will never live on Mars. We do not know whats in our deepest oceans. So I am serious because I see science as good and then as bad. to have another agenda instead of really good for human kind (speaking of evolution). The bibles deep meaning is for the good of people. So whatever is to be good for us is good. their has to be a balance. It is personal and yet far reaching for all. The past can help us with the future and the OJT of life molds us hopefully to better human beings. I do not see where evolution molds our understanding of life. maybe you should understand then that GMO's (genetically modified organisms) are a form of unnatural evolution... they are donein a lab rather than in the feild, and done with strict controls, unlike natural evolution, which is random at best... thats why when one works, it multiplies rapidly... |
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Evolution is both a scientific fact and a scientific theory based on evidence. Evidence includes a wide variety of sources: fossil record, biochemistry, embryology, genetics, taxonomy, DNA, comparative anatomy, atavisms, behavior, biogeographical distribution of species, etc.... Currently, there is no credible scientific evidence that contradicts this idea. As a science teacher with a major in biology(Bachelor's and Masters degrees), I have studied this for over 30 years. It is a sound scientific principle. The only individuals that dispute biological evolution are either very religious (and view the theory as contradicting their religious beliefs) or those that lack a good science education. Creationism is considered a pseudoscience by credible scientists because creationists fail to follow the scientific method. Simply trying to refute biological evolution will not convince a scientist. One must also promote a better, rational, alternate explanation. Good luck with that. I am wondering in what you have duplicated in that you took something and made it evolve into another (anything) naturally without doing a GMO experiement lol... are you serious? or just being funny? no I am serious. I know some about science but not much. Personally I do not see and I may be seeing it wrong. I do not see where natural evolution is apparent. My view and your view may be completely Alien to each other. Like I remember in school a poster that shows a fish then a walking fish then a monkey then ape then human. Is this evolution? Is this what you mean? I can not see that as anything but fanticy. See the bible does say to consider a matter. not to just reject it. Many may see how I believe as make believe and that's fine with me. we all need to prove things to ourselves not just believe what someone says. I see this a problem in religion. But also in science. I have said much science is good but I do not believe most science goes against the bible if it can be proven. we have just matured. discovered new things. Electricity we can not see but it works. without it we would be no different than 200 years ago. Is it science? Yes it can be measured and duplicated but not normally seen. Lightning has been around forever. Scientists have learned it is very important to our earth. Its good to learn about. But then mans science a lot of the time to me is foolishness. like spending billions to see if a drop of water is on mars. Whats the purpose? We will never live on Mars. We do not know whats in our deepest oceans. So I am serious because I see science as good and then as bad. to have another agenda instead of really good for human kind (speaking of evolution). The bibles deep meaning is for the good of people. So whatever is to be good for us is good. their has to be a balance. It is personal and yet far reaching for all. The past can help us with the future and the OJT of life molds us hopefully to better human beings. I do not see where evolution molds our understanding of life. maybe you should understand then that GMO's (genetically modified organisms) are a form of unnatural evolution... they are donein a lab rather than in the feild, and done with strict controls, unlike natural evolution, which is random at best... thats why when one works, it multiplies rapidly... Yes thanks. see I see GMO's as Mad scientist.. haha I hope u see I believe as we see all the time when science and religion is discussed together we belittle what each other has as a reality to them. This gets no where. what I believe in religion is much different than u will normally see. natural evolution to me can be many things. but I am not really sure what it is. I do not see how something can be science when if it is true we can not duplicate it say because it takes 1000's of years to change. so how do we really know? |
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you can follow evolution with facts and no one telling you what you MUST do. Religion is all theory made by man to suppress others. All though I believe that J C lived and his teaching were moral, but when he put it to the test, it all went wrong. May you faith go with you, if you need that kind of thing.
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you can follow evolution with facts and no one telling you what you MUST do. Religion is all theory made by man to suppress others. All though I believe that J C lived and his teaching were moral, but when he put it to the test, it all went wrong. May you faith go with you, if you need that kind of thing. evolution is All Facts? My faith is a Lifestyle not a manmade theory. is all fact in the future? changeable as man decides? Is that what guides life? |
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