Topic: obarry lies about lying...
mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 12:33 PM
What does a government do when it's caught in a flagrant lie? If you are the U.S. government, you simply tell another lie — and laugh at anyone who tries to call out your hypocrisy.

Setting aside his oft-parroted no-boots-on-the-ground imperative, President Obama announcedMonday the U.S. would be quintupling the number of special forces troops deployed to Syria to fight Daesh (the so-called Islamic State). In fact, the announcement was made later on the same day Obama claimed to have "ruled out" the deployment of ground troops.

Though this reneging on stated foreign policy has become somewhat par for the course, State Department spokesman John Kirby not only missed the hypocritical move, he flatly and bafflingly denied the Obama administration's repeated claim there would be "no boots on the ground."

In fact, instead of taking responsibility for initiating military maneuvers the public might find displeasing, the Obama administration has developed an apparent affinity for nitpicking semantics.
In a press conference, this farcical denial of reality reached stupefying proportions when Kirby was asked by an Associated Press reporter about this stark reversal of policy. All emphasis has been added to highlight the absurdities.

"I'm just curious if this is, like, part of some kind of devious grand strategy to say one thing and then do the complete opposite of it," the reporter queried.

"I just — I don't see it that way," Kirby responded. "There was never this 'no boots on the ground.' I don't know where this keeps coming from."


Pressing the point, the reporter expounded, "For months and months and months, the mantra — from the President and ... everyone else in the Administration — has been 'no boots on the ground,' and now —"

"That is not true," Kirby interrupted.

"What?!" the reporter exclaimed — apparently as baffled as the rest of the press, heard murmuring in similar disbelief around the room.

"It's just not true," Kirby persisted, appearing almost smug, leaning on the podium. "It's just not true."

Of course, it is true — and Kirby's semantic gymnastics to justify such a brazen lie added an Orwellian twist to the already Kafkaesque press conference. And that truth is written in black and white — even on the White House website, at least as far back as August 2013, when Obama stated:

"n no event are we considering any kind of military action that would involve boots on the ground; that would involve a long-term campaign."

On August 31, 2013, Obama asserted from the Rose Garden:

"After careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets ... We would not put boots on the ground."

Then, on September 10, 2013 — once again, as found in print on the White House site — he reiterated:

"First, many of you have asked, won't this put us on a slippery slope to another war?

"My answer is simple: I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria."

On September 3, 2013, he again said:

"[The U.S. involvement in Syria] does not involve boots on the ground."

September 9, 2013, brought the same statement from the president, in an interview with PBS Newshour:

"Tomorrow, I'll speak to the American people. I'll explain this is not Iraq; this is not Afghanistan; this is not even Libya. We're talking about — not boots on the ground."

Again, Obama repeated on September 7, 2014, as the Intercept noted:

"In Syria, the boots on the ground have to be Syrian."

Though after the last statement, Obama's characterization of 'no boots on the ground' began a subtle shift in language — evidencing mission creep — he sustained the narrative troops would not be deployed on the ground.

At the White House on February 11, 2015, reported USA Today, Obama remarked:

"The resolution we've submitted today does not call for the deployment of U.S. ground combat forces to Iraq or Syria."

It's arguable the United States populace could handle an honest statement outlining policy many may not agree with — such as the deployment of boots on the ground — if the plan were forthrightly presented.

But for Obama and other officials to repeatedly claim as much, and to then have the State Department act as if the people, themselves, have collectively lost their minds when pointing out the mendacious gaffe, is downright laughable — if not profoundly insulting.

It has become clear the United States mission to fight Daesh — with the secondary goal to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad — will involve boots on the ground. But it's questionable whether the Obama administration with ever manage to admit to as much.

SitkaRains's photo
Sat 04/30/16 12:36 PM
And this is a surprise how????

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sat 04/30/16 12:44 PM
Obama doesn't lie, He is just like Hillary...its the ventriloquist behind them saying these thingssmokin

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 12:46 PM

And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..

SitkaRains's photo
Sat 04/30/16 12:50 PM


And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..



Welll..... kick a few rocks He didn't always tell the truth either but he also didn't run on a platform of Transparency eitherlaugh


I honestly really don't know what is going to happen in this election...
I dont' think there is going to be a clear cut winner and I wonder what it is going to do to my taxes retirement you name it.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/30/16 01:07 PM
Flip-Flopping like a Fish out of the water!

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sat 04/30/16 01:11 PM
Everyone is so quick to call Obama a liar for putting boots on the ground....maybe there is something we are missing...they could be wearing sneakerssmokin

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 01:14 PM

Everyone is so quick to call Obama a liar for putting boots on the ground....maybe there is something we are missing...they could be wearing sneakerssmokin


sandals...

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Sat 04/30/16 04:21 PM
Maybe he meant no booties on the ground.

SitkaRains's photo
Sat 04/30/16 04:39 PM

Everyone is so quick to call Obama a liar for putting boots on the ground....maybe there is something we are missing...they could be wearing sneakerssmokin


Well to me this is just one more lie and well hells bells he has built a whole island of lies.

Doesn't matter if they have boots sandals, or barefooted..

The man opens his mouth and a lie falls out IMO...

Robxbox73's photo
Sat 04/30/16 06:47 PM


And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..

Again with the politicians an how they lie. Who cares. Yes Bush, lied. Clinton lied. Nixon lied. LBJ lied. He'll I'm pretty sure if you can find documents you'll find Washington and "Honest" Abe lied. Doesn't mean we accept it. Just means when you know someone, and every word is a lie, you don't get surprised. I'm mean what are you going to do with a government that refuses to listen???
I can see why Trumpo is popular. He is people's way of saying, Hey Washington... you won't listen huh???
Hot Potatoe Grenade futhermuckers!
Now your gonna feel real pain. You want to gridlock our country and not do your jobs? Take this Trump and cram him where the sun don't shine. See how that feels!
Wow, I feel much better! Thanks Moe!

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 07:10 PM



And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..

Again with the politicians an how they lie. Who cares. Yes Bush, lied. Clinton lied. Nixon lied. LBJ lied. He'll I'm pretty sure if you can find documents you'll find Washington and "Honest" Abe lied. Doesn't mean we accept it. Just means when you know someone, and every word is a lie, you don't get surprised. I'm mean what are you going to do with a government that refuses to listen???
I can see why Trumpo is popular. He is people's way of saying, Hey Washington... you won't listen huh???
Hot Potatoe Grenade futhermuckers!
Now your gonna feel real pain. You want to gridlock our country and not do your jobs? Take this Trump and cram him where the sun don't shine. See how that feels!
Wow, I feel much better! Thanks Moe!


hmmmm.. so, lets put the "shoving trump up my azz" on the back burner for a while and why don't you explain just why trump is so bad? is it because he thinks the Mexicans should come here legally and not ILLEGALLY? is it because he thinks the radical muslims should not be allowed into OUR country? maybe because he thinks the people should have a voice into things that implicate our lives? maybe because he doesn't want a NWO takeover?

tell me, just what is it about Trump that makes you want to "shove trump where the sun don't shine?


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Sat 04/30/16 07:23 PM
During the first seven years of Obamas presidency, they screamed "Bush did it!"

During the last year, they now scream "Trump did it!" laugh

As long as the focus is off Barack I guess.....

Rock's photo
Sat 04/30/16 07:36 PM
"lies about lying"

I've learned to expect nothing different
from democrats.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 07:44 PM

During the first seven years of Obamas presidency, they screamed "Bush did it!"

During the last year, they now scream "Trump did it!" laugh

As long as the focus is off Barack I guess.....


the last year of a presidency is where they can do the most damage.. EI, Clinton signing a bill with freddy mac and fanny mae lowering the credit worthiness where anyone could buy a home... and look what happened eight years later, 25 million people lose there homes... and of course, obarry is right there to bail out the creditors and not the homeowners...

Robxbox73's photo
Sat 04/30/16 07:55 PM




And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..

Again with the politicians an how they lie. Who cares. Yes Bush, lied. Clinton lied. Nixon lied. LBJ lied. He'll I'm pretty sure if you can find documents you'll find Washington and "Honest" Abe lied. Doesn't mean we accept it. Just means when you know someone, and every word is a lie, you don't get surprised. I'm mean what are you going to do with a government that refuses to listen???
I can see why Trumpo is popular. He is people's way of saying, Hey Washington... you won't listen huh???
Hot Potatoe Grenade futhermuckers!
Now your gonna feel real pain. You want to gridlock our country and not do your jobs? Take this Trump and cram him where the sun don't shine. See how that feels!
Wow, I feel much better! Thanks Moe!


hmmmm.. so, lets put the "shoving trump up my azz" on the back burner for a while and why don't you explain just why trump is so bad? is it because he thinks the Mexicans should come here legally and not ILLEGALLY? is it because he thinks the radical muslims should not be allowed into OUR country? maybe because he thinks the people should have a voice into things that implicate our lives? maybe because he doesn't want a NWO takeover?

tell me, just what is it about Trump that makes you want to "shove trump where the sun don't shine?




Um, look Moe, if you read what I'm saying... I'm agreeing why he is popular. The cram was aimed at Washington..I don't care what he says about Mexicans or Muslims. My problem is Washington, which might as well be France. If you don't speak the lingo, how are you going to get along. Sure Cruz is not good, Hillary might as well be a Bush. But these two jokers at least can work across the isle. Trump, well might as well put you or I in there and hope something happens. Trump won't even talk to ex military guys to get an idea about the current geopolitical situation . Here's where the rubber meets the road. Why do some Americans like him? Because of a TV show were he fires everybody. No compromise. Do i want this type of mentality when it comes to having the mightiest militay under his little pinky? No way. His succsess? Wallstreet, we're the 1%ers that screw people for a living live! HE IS USED TO WINGING IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.
I don't want him winging it with my families future, when the best he can do is ensure 4 more years of gridlock.
Imo

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/30/16 08:05 PM





And this is a surprise how????


lol... not a surprise, just another day in the life of a chronic liar...

sad how the ignorant liberals just go along with this crap and keep saying how bush was a liar..

Again with the politicians an how they lie. Who cares. Yes Bush, lied. Clinton lied. Nixon lied. LBJ lied. He'll I'm pretty sure if you can find documents you'll find Washington and "Honest" Abe lied. Doesn't mean we accept it. Just means when you know someone, and every word is a lie, you don't get surprised. I'm mean what are you going to do with a government that refuses to listen???
I can see why Trumpo is popular. He is people's way of saying, Hey Washington... you won't listen huh???
Hot Potatoe Grenade futhermuckers!
Now your gonna feel real pain. You want to gridlock our country and not do your jobs? Take this Trump and cram him where the sun don't shine. See how that feels!
Wow, I feel much better! Thanks Moe!


hmmmm.. so, lets put the "shoving trump up my azz" on the back burner for a while and why don't you explain just why trump is so bad? is it because he thinks the Mexicans should come here legally and not ILLEGALLY? is it because he thinks the radical muslims should not be allowed into OUR country? maybe because he thinks the people should have a voice into things that implicate our lives? maybe because he doesn't want a NWO takeover?

tell me, just what is it about Trump that makes you want to "shove trump where the sun don't shine?




Um, look Moe, if you read what I'm saying... I'm agreeing why he is popular. The cram was aimed at Washington..I don't care what he says about Mexicans or Muslims. My problem is Washington, which might as well be France. If you don't speak the lingo, how are you going to get along. Sure Cruz is not good, Hillary might as well be a Bush. But these two jokers at least can work across the isle. Trump, well might as well put you or I in there and hope something happens. Trump won't even talk to ex military guys to get an idea about the current geopolitical situation . Here's where the rubber meets the road. Why do some Americans like him? Because of a TV show were he fires everybody. No compromise. Do i want this type of mentality when it comes to having the mightiest militay under his little pinky? No way. His succsess? Wallstreet, we're the 1%ers that screw people for a living live! HE IS USED TO WINGING IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.
I don't want him winging it with my families future, when the best he can do is ensure 4 more years of gridlock.
Imo



that's the exact reason i like him, he's NEVER been a politician, nor did he go to school as a poly sci major, to be taught how THEY want their politicians to be...

personally, i would vote for anyone with half a brain then the pure bred politicians that the Harvards and any of ivy league school throws out, trained to be puppets in their midst...

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Sat 04/30/16 09:26 PM
obarry lies about lying...

How to tell if a politician is lying?
Their lips are moving.

How to tell if a lawyer is lying?
Their lips are moving.

What are so many politicians?
Lawyers.

What do they spend all day doing?
Moving their lips.

What are the 3 biggest lies ever told?
Just the tip.
The check is in the mail.
I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

"I have certain rules I live by:
My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me."
- George Carlin


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Sat 04/30/16 09:44 PM

This is the planet I live on. See the one up there...that's the planet YOU live on."
President Barack Obama, speaking in Germany on Monday, said we're fortunate to be living in the "most peaceful" era in human history. "I want to begin with an observation that, given the challenges that we face in the world and the headlines we see every day, may seem improbable but it's true. We are fortunate to be living in the most peaceful, most prosperous, most progressive era in human history," he said.

"That may surprise young people who are watching TV or looking at your phones," he said, "and it seems like only bad news comes through every day, but consider it's been decades since the last war between major powers." In the same speech, the president warned against complacency, as "dangerous forces" threaten to take the world backward.

Then he announced that he is sending 250 more American special forces troops to Syria: "They're not going to be leading the fight on the ground," he said, "but they will be essential in providing the training and assisting local forces that continue to drive ISIL back."

After touting world peace, Obama moved on to prosperity and progress: "More people live in democracies, where they live wealthier and healthier and better educated with a global economy that has lifted up more than a billion people from extreme poverty and created new middle classes from the Americas to Africa to Asia."


Obama noted that tens of millions of people are saved from disease and infant mortality and people are living longer lives. "Around the world we're more tolerant, with more opportunity for women and gays and lesbians as we push back on bigotry and prejudice," he said. (He notably did not mention transgenders, a topic that is making headlines back home.)

"If you had to choose a moment in time to be born, any time in human history, and you didn't know ahead of time what nationality you were, or what gender, or what your economic status might be, you'd choose today," the president said.