Topic: trumps first 100 days in office..
Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/12/16 11:35 AM


I could have sworn that the Democrats had a Majority in both Houses in the beginning of Obama's Reign


They did, and they certainly didn't bother to do anything to change how the POTUS is chosen.
I don't recall Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid wanting to eliminate the Electoral College.
Perhaps that is because there was no need to do that.
There is still no need to do that.



slavery had its time
jim crow had its time
maybe the electoral college will too



It is ridiculous to compare the Electoral College to slavery and jim crow.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/12/16 11:37 AM
everyone has their own interpretation

allowing districts to determine the vote instead of the people doesnt create any less of a 'mob',,,because districts can themselves be a mob


the electoral vote was important when it was in the constitution because of the influence of power

it gave more power to northern states because of the population of free people ,compared to the population of free people in the south

and the compromise gave more power to the north, by counting the slaves and therefore giving the south more of an advantage

its still a matter of influence of power because of the complexities of 'districting' in the first place,,,

I am on the fence on whether its 'better' to let geography(districting) be the determinant or if allowing the individuals vote count equal with all individuals,,


,,I am sure at some point this system of elections will be reviewed and either maintained or adjusted as determined

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/12/16 11:37 AM
everyone has their own interpretation

allowing districts to determine the vote instead of the people doesnt create any less of a 'mob',,,because districts can themselves be a mob


the electoral vote was important when it was in the constitution because of the influence of power

it gave more power to northern states because of the population of free people ,compared to the population of free people in the south

and the compromise gave more power to the north, by counting the slaves and therefore giving the south more of an advantage

its still a matter of influence of power because of the complexities of 'districting' in the first place,,,

I am on the fence on whether its 'better' to let geography(districting) be the determinant or if allowing the individuals vote count equal with all individuals,,


,,I am sure at some point this system of elections will be reviewed and either maintained or adjusted as determined

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/12/16 11:39 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 11/12/16 11:47 AM



I could have sworn that the Democrats had a Majority in both Houses in the beginning of Obama's Reign


They did, and they certainly didn't bother to do anything to change how the POTUS is chosen.
I don't recall Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid wanting to eliminate the Electoral College.
Perhaps that is because there was no need to do that.
There is still no need to do that.



slavery had its time
jim crow had its time
maybe the electoral college will too



It is ridiculous to compare the Electoral College to slavery and jim crow.




ok, than how about,,,,the draft had its time
or the time when elections were only decided by white males over 21
or the time when there were no term limits for presidents


point is, , sometimes the original 'way',, or the previous way, meets the end of its time


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Tue 04/25/17 04:35 PM
Bump!

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Tue 04/25/17 04:46 PM

I was hoping for a plan that would help all those who wanted to leave the country if Trump won the election. Maybe free one way tickets to where ever they wish to relocate to.


That really would have been great but as the past has confirmed they were all talk and no action.

I would have had more respect for those would made statements like that if they did it fact do what they said they would.

But when it actually came time to put up or shut up.. they all shut up.

Same for the protesters too.. not to present anymore.. are they.

ahh.. 15 minute of fame.. fades quick


IgorFrankensteen's photo
Tue 04/25/17 04:50 PM


for all you trump "haters" out there, please read this and tell me what you think... i would post it on here, but it is somewhat lengthy, so i'll just post the website...


sounds GREAT to me, i can't see why the libs didn't do this to begin with...

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days


First, the Democrats DID try to do a lot of this, during Obama's time in office. The Republicans blocked it all, even when they thought it was a good idea, because they had only one agenda and one loyalty: make the economy as bad as possible, in order to make the Democrats, and Obama in particular, look bad.

Now. As to what Trump is proposing. Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, has declared that he flat out opposes much of what Trump wants.

There will be no term limits.

Infrastructure rebuilding is "not high on their agenda."

Trying to repeal the ACA might happen, because they are on the same page there.

The famous Wall, McConnell avoids talking about, which means he and the Senate Republicans wont support it.



In general, as you may recall from the campaign days, the Republican Party leadership doesn't like Trump. The only person they dislike more than Trump, was Clinton.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

And by the way, this is why I emphasized a while back in other threads, that it isn't so much who gets elected President that matters, it's who the people vote in to the House and Senate. And the same Americans who gave Trump the White House, gave the Senate to the Republicans who oppose Trump.


Here we are at the end of the first hundred days.

As I suspected, no consensus, and hence no action by the entirely Republican controlled house and senate on any of the major things listed originally.

I was wrong about them rolling away the ACA. I thought they had the fanatic hatred of it they claimed to have, but apparently they only said they did, to get elected.

No term limits, as I said. Not even brought up for discussion.

Not enough support for the wall to pass it without Democrats helping, and we have yet to have seen a budget proposal supported by the entire GOP that includes it. Still on Trump's agenda, though.

Still no infrastructure spending. Again, we still have to wait and see what the GOP will do with the budget that Trump is about to start pushing, as a part of Tax "reform." The Republicans will have to answer to all their supporters that they've promised for years now, to pay for all tax cuts with spending cuts, since Trump wants to simultaneously cut taxes TREMENDOUSLY, while increasing Defense Spending AND building the wall (which Mexico is still not going to pay for), AND investing in infrastructure renewal.

So: first 100 days? As I expected, Trump had to admit that "it isn't as easy as I thought," even with his Republican majority control. I was right about that much. Most Republicans are not Trump Republicans, at least not yet.


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Wed 04/26/17 04:31 AM
This is funny


Republicans exempt their own insurance from their latest health care proposal


http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/republicans-exempt-their-own-insurance-from-their-latest-health-care-proposal/ar-BBAnGVB?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/26/17 05:20 AM



for all you trump "haters" out there, please read this and tell me what you think... i would post it on here, but it is somewhat lengthy, so i'll just post the website...


sounds GREAT to me, i can't see why the libs didn't do this to begin with...

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days


First, the Democrats DID try to do a lot of this, during Obama's time in office. The Republicans blocked it all, even when they thought it was a good idea, because they had only one agenda and one loyalty: make the economy as bad as possible, in order to make the Democrats, and Obama in particular, look bad.

Now. As to what Trump is proposing. Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, has declared that he flat out opposes much of what Trump wants.

There will be no term limits.

Infrastructure rebuilding is "not high on their agenda."

Trying to repeal the ACA might happen, because they are on the same page there.

The famous Wall, McConnell avoids talking about, which means he and the Senate Republicans wont support it.



In general, as you may recall from the campaign days, the Republican Party leadership doesn't like Trump. The only person they dislike more than Trump, was Clinton.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

And by the way, this is why I emphasized a while back in other threads, that it isn't so much who gets elected President that matters, it's who the people vote in to the House and Senate. And the same Americans who gave Trump the White House, gave the Senate to the Republicans who oppose Trump.


Here we are at the end of the first hundred days.

As I suspected, no consensus, and hence no action by the entirely Republican controlled house and senate on any of the major things listed originally.

I was wrong about them rolling away the ACA. I thought they had the fanatic hatred of it they claimed to have, but apparently they only said they did, to get elected.

No term limits, as I said. Not even brought up for discussion.

Not enough support for the wall to pass it without Democrats helping, and we have yet to have seen a budget proposal supported by the entire GOP that includes it. Still on Trump's agenda, though.

Still no infrastructure spending. Again, we still have to wait and see what the GOP will do with the budget that Trump is about to start pushing, as a part of Tax "reform." The Republicans will have to answer to all their supporters that they've promised for years now, to pay for all tax cuts with spending cuts, since Trump wants to simultaneously cut taxes TREMENDOUSLY, while increasing Defense Spending AND building the wall (which Mexico is still not going to pay for), AND investing in infrastructure renewal.

So: first 100 days? As I expected, Trump had to admit that "it isn't as easy as I thought," even with his Republican majority control. I was right about that much. Most Republicans are not Trump Republicans, at least not yet.


term limits would be a good thing for everyone in office...

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Wed 04/26/17 01:46 PM
Trump is being opposed by Libtards and some Republicans. In spite of this
he has done a pretty good job. Slow start but time will tell. happy

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Wed 04/26/17 06:19 PM

Trump is being opposed by Libtards and some Republicans. In spite of this
he has done a pretty good job. Slow start but time will tell. happy



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Wed 04/26/17 06:40 PM
What? Were have you been. Removing forty million people from the medical insurance to give the rich more tax breaks. Executive orders that are either useless or illegal. Tax cut for the wealthy. Corporations allowed to pollute. Religion taking money against the Constitution. Wake up special interests.

Trump is only for the rich and if you are so naive you cannot see that then I suggest reading up and getting real facts not fox news.

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Wed 04/26/17 08:06 PM
Meaaning?


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Wed 04/26/17 09:26 PM
Yea, and he want's to kill children and starve grandma and
grandpa too.laugh

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Thu 04/27/17 02:20 PM

Trump is being opposed by Libtards and some Republicans. In spite of this
he has done a pretty good job. Slow start but time will tell. happy


Since only the Republicans actually exist (the others are a fantasy of yours), he should make progress shortly.

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Thu 04/27/17 04:09 PM
All this chatchats makin me thirsty

arlow1010's photo
Thu 04/27/17 05:47 PM


For what purpose? Trump will have the government either track you down for posting statement he does not like, See his twitter law suit, or have his private attorney issue stop orders. The republican free speech. You cannot say anything negative about Trump.

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Thu 04/27/17 06:02 PM
Arlo, are you sure? Maybe your thinkin of North Korea?
Any way, feel free to say what you wish.happy

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Thu 04/27/17 09:02 PM



For what purpose? Trump will have the government either track you down for posting statement he does not like, See his twitter law suit, or have his private attorney issue stop orders. The republican free speech. You cannot say anything negative about Trump.
wouldn't you be getting tracked then?

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Fri 04/28/17 09:02 AM
Edited by alleoops on Fri 04/28/17 09:04 AM




For what purpose? Trump will have the government either track you down for posting statement he does not like, See his twitter law suit, or have his private attorney issue stop orders. The republican free speech. You cannot say anything negative about Trump.
wouldn't you be getting tracked then?


laugh