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Topic: Killer Cop
msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 07:41 AM
I hope they have secured situations for police that have to go to jail,,,


more death would just be pointless...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/21/4-bodies-nicholas-tartaglione/95687736/

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 01:28 PM


well he hasnt been convicted yet

but that is a perfect example of 1 bad apple hurting the rest (if convicted)


there needs to be a dramatic punishment for him if he is found guilty

maybe locked in a portable cell and put in the lobbies of various law enforcement building as a reminder for the rest of the apples to not go bad


but hey what do i know


(could sell shots with water pistols for 4 for a $1 heh gotta pay his way somehow

IF CONVICTED

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 12/21/16 01:40 PM
It's nasty propaganda that makes cops jobs harder. Are there bad cops...duhh just like bad doctors, lawyers whatever. But the whining people want to label all cops ask the same. Many good cops have lost theit lives over ignorance. I was there when one of the Dallas cops (recently murdered) went through my city in a funeral procession. Think trash could respect it? Nope. There were people (holding BLM signs) demanding donations. Didn't give it...expect berating. I told them shame on you...blue lives and all lived matter and drove off

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 01:44 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 12/21/16 01:45 PM
its propoganda that ignores the 'human' element completely in favor of blanket character stereotypes

unless talking statistics and trends,which also have a 'human' element, people tend to pretend everyone in a group thinks, acts and believes the same

whether it be political groups like republicans and democrats
whether it be movements, like the Tea party or BLM
whether it be geographic groups, like new yorkers or southerners
or career groups like lawyers, cops, politicians


the mind has an easier time boxing things that are highly correlated together, but intellectual integrity calls for people to take that further once its out the box and discover the human factors,,,

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 12/21/16 01:57 PM
whoa

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:10 PM
The title of this thread is misleading because Nicholas Tartaglione was not a cop at the time that he allegedly killed those four men.

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:13 PM
My bad, good catch

Killer EX Cop should be the title

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:13 PM

its propoganda that ignores the 'human' element completely in favor of blanket character stereotypes

unless talking statistics and trends,which also have a 'human' element, people tend to pretend everyone in a group thinks, acts and believes the same

whether it be political groups like republicans and democrats
whether it be movements, like the Tea party or BLM
whether it be geographic groups, like new yorkers or southerners
or career groups like lawyers, cops, politicians


the mind has an easier time boxing things that are highly correlated together, but intellectual integrity calls for people to take that further once its out the box and discover the human factors,,,


i never heard the teaparty crying out to shoot cops blacks or anyone else ---- blm is a hate group that is as bad as the Aryan Brotherhood an probably worse the a b is not out there telling every one and any one to kill all blacks and jews they may believe in it but they are not promoting it to others that are not a member of their group ----- blm should have charges of inciting riot against them multiple times

blm is an evil organization (that seems bent on the destruction of this country)

they like to aviod the facts like how many whites died to end slavery (John Brown was hung because of his fight to end slavery blm never says anything about him) what about all the whites that operated the underground railroad you never hear blm say anything about them what about all the whites that died in the union army during the civil war you never hear blm mention them what about the whites that tried to help blacks by starting black themed tv shows blm never mentions them


what about all the blacks that went out to capture other blacks to sell at the muslum slave house blm never mentions them


to compare the blm to the tea party is a gross injustice to the tea party

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:20 PM
BLM has never cried out to shoot cops either

you confuse movements with individuals who are free to promote and take part in the movement


I suspect, as usual, most with gripes about BLM rely only on sensational headlines and events regarding individuals 'associated' and dont actually read up on the movement itself,,,


I compare BLM and Tea Party because they are both movements that were political and media leading stories for a while

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:30 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Wed 12/21/16 02:32 PM

BLM has never cried out to shoot cops either

you confuse movements with individuals who are free to promote and take part in the movement


I suspect, as usual, most with gripes about BLM rely only on sensational headlines and events regarding individuals 'associated' and dont actually read up on the movement itself,,,


I compare BLM and Tea Party because they are both movements that were political and media leading stories for a while


I confuse nothing. I was the saw the BLM signs. You say it's a movement and they adapted the movement

They protested a murdered cop's funeral procession. Didn't think about his loved ones. Had BLM signs and would get agressive and berate people that didn't buy into their crap. They were disgusting people and I have no problem calling them out. Protest real bad cops...this wasn't ok

Btw....this didn't make headlines. Hopefully the media decided not to sink to that level or they got broken up before the media got there. It isn't media hype. I was right there personally

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:32 PM
anyone can buy posterboard and write a Sign

that only tells you about that person

to know about a movement, one should read their official information

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:46 PM

anyone can buy posterboard and write a Sign

that only tells you about that person

to know about a movement, one should read their official information


that is true but they called for it in the name of the blm

if blm did not like them calling for such actions they should have been out condemning the actions of those calling for such action but they did not


thats like saying i didnt tell my kid to break your windshield and then taking the kid out for pizza and ice cream

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:48 PM
lots of things people 'should' do

best to make assessments based on what they HAVE done, rather than what they have not,,,,imho

except when they claim to have done something and havent,,,

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:48 PM





Video: ‘Black Lives Matter’ Protest Leader Calls For Shooting, Running Over Cops


http://www.infowars.com/video-black-lives-matter-protest-leader-calls-for-shooting-running-over-cops/

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:49 PM


anyone can buy posterboard and write a Sign

that only tells you about that person

to know about a movement, one should read their official information


that is true but they called for it in the name of the blm

if blm did not like them calling for such actions they should have been out condemning the actions of those calling for such action but they did not


thats like saying i didnt tell my kid to break your windshield and then taking the kid out for pizza and ice cream


unless BLM officially gave this group some gift, prize, or monetary profit, showing support and encouragement,, the pizza and ice cream analogy doesnt work

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:51 PM






Video: ‘Black Lives Matter’ Protest Leader Calls For Shooting, Running Over Cops


http://www.infowars.com/video-black-lives-matter-protest-leader-calls-for-shooting-running-over-cops/


again, this was an INDIVIDUAL at a protest , ,, not the BLM movement

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:54 PM

lots of things people 'should' do

best to make assessments based on what they HAVE done, rather than what they have not,,,,imho

except when they claim to have done something and havent,,,




if people do things in your name and you do not make it perfectly clear that you do not support their actions then it is the same as supporting their actions

it is the same as a policeman that knows another policeman is doing things that are illegal even tho he is not doing those illegal things that policeman is just as guilty as the one that did the illegal actions because they did nothing to stop the actions of the other


if someone says you said to do this or that and never deny their statement then you are showing support for their statement

adj4u's photo
Wed 12/21/16 02:57 PM


so what if russia hacked the dnc emails

trump never hacked dnc emails

everyone should quit giving trump a hard time about it

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/21/16 03:00 PM
when you are a movement, you are not a person, and protest and insult are not illegal,, but constitutionally protected

when you are a CYBER movement, open to the world,, there is no way to respond to EVERYTHING objectionable individuals are doing, either against you or in your name


the way BLM makes it clear, is by making available the INFORMATION about what they stand for, which CONTRADICTS anyone supporting the killing of cops

they do not need to keep RESTATING it, people can take the time to read it themselves...

if someone says I support the death penalty, ignoring them is just ignoring them, its not support

my direct statements on the death penalty are enough for people who care about truth to figure it out,, and people that dont care about truth,, its their own loss to remain ignorant

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 12/21/16 03:00 PM
People are missing the point of msharmony's first post in this thread.

She is hoping that Nicholas Tartaglione won't be killed by other inmates while he is in jail or in prison.

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