fascism to me is an old ideology philosophy governing over the people not similar to meritocracy it just so happens to be an older to have a regime to suppress the vast majority maybe modern day fascism is more so the same in a lot of senses yada yada it can be about suppressing the masses making people live in fear too afraid to express themselves also that vast amounts of wealth is the only entitlement to their opinions it proves nothing I see it as bigger business has the authority over the people that make it possible I amm all up for free trade and capitalism it's just how things are now you just have to adapt and not let yourself become a target 3rd parties on social media comments on a major news outlet to really just need to know what we have and why we have these things we use on a daily if you don't know now you will never know and may not need to know..gasp

Paxton, author of several books, including "The Anatomy of Fascism" (Vintage, 2005), said fascism is based more on feelings than philosophical ideas. In his 1988 essay "The Five Stages of Fascism," published in 1998 in the Journal of Modern History, he defined seven feelings that act as "mobilizing passions" for fascist regimes. They are:

1. The primacy of the group. Supporting the group feels more important than maintaining either individual or universal rights.

2. Believing that one's group is a victim. This justifies any behavior against the group's enemies.

3.The belief that individualism and liberalism enable dangerous decadence and have a negative effect on the group.

4.A strong sense of community or brotherhood. This brotherhood's "unity and purity are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary."


5.Individual self-esteem is tied up in the grandeur of the group. Paxton called this an "enhanced sense of identity and belonging."

6.Extreme support of a "natural" leader, who is always male. This results in one man taking on the role of national savior.

7."The beauty of violence and of will, when they are devoted to the group's success in a Darwinian struggle," Paxton wrote. The idea of a naturally superior group or, especially in Hitler's case, biological racism, fits into a fascist interpretation of Darwinism.


Once in power, "fascist dictatorships suppressed individual liberties, imprisoned opponents, forbade strikes, authorized unlimited police power in the name of national unity and revival, and committed military aggression," Paxton wrote.



Read more at: http://www.livescience.com/57622-fascism.html


do you see us eventually HAVING/EMBRACING a fascist leadership for the purpose of 'NATIONAL' loyalty and strength?

No. But maybe if liberals have their way.

I feel anti-Trumps are facists (and no I don't like any politicians). They rioted and bullied people to get their way. Example: if Trump is president I will move to Canada (think they closed their borders), death threats to anyone that performed at the inauguration, riots destroying citizens property....all before he even took office. Now we have snowflakes needing play doh and coloring books and Hollywood wanting a strike. Who are they?

this is nothing more then a repackaged anti Trump thread. One of many started recently under different headings.. but the same core meaning.... so obvious.

6 out of 7 of these points make for an excellent description of the Black Lies Matters movement.

nah, not really

besides being a victimized community,,there is no natural male leader(#6), there is no connection between being involved and individual self esteem(#5), the movement has no philosophy of superiority (#7), the group is not opposed to individualism or liberalism(#3), or against individual rights(#1)

not to mention, the description doesnt apply first off as the movement is not a government or authority,,,(regime)

hmmm? and what is your source of 'understanding' of the movement?

I try not to post too much personal information online, but the people reading this thread who have bothered to look outside of their bubbles for a deeper understanding of what is happening in this country know that these 7 points, taken as a whole, are a great characterization of the BLM movement.

Paxton, author of several books, including "The Anatomy of Fascism" (Vintage, 2005), said fascism is based more on feelings than philosophical ideas. In his 1988 essay "The Five Stages of Fascism," published in 1998 in the Journal of Modern History, he defined seven feelings that act as "mobilizing passions" for fascist regimes. They are:

1. The primacy of the group. Supporting the group feels more important than maintaining either individual or universal rights.

2. Believing that one's group is a victim. This justifies any behavior against the group's enemies.

3.The belief that individualism and liberalism enable dangerous decadence and have a negative effect on the group.

4.A strong sense of community or brotherhood. This brotherhood's "unity and purity are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary."


5.Individual self-esteem is tied up in the grandeur of the group. Paxton called this an "enhanced sense of identity and belonging."

6.Extreme support of a "natural" leader, who is always male. This results in one man taking on the role of national savior.

7."The beauty of violence and of will, when they are devoted to the group's success in a Darwinian struggle," Paxton wrote. The idea of a naturally superior group or, especially in Hitler's case, biological racism, fits into a fascist interpretation of Darwinism.


Once in power, "fascist dictatorships suppressed individual liberties, imprisoned opponents, forbade strikes, authorized unlimited police power in the name of national unity and revival, and committed military aggression," Paxton wrote.



Read more at: http://www.livescience.com/57622-fascism.html


do you see us eventually HAVING/EMBRACING a fascist leadership for the purpose of 'NATIONAL' loyalty and strength?

but, in a democracy, most just use their 'right' to vote or not vote to make a change. Although that "Hope and Change" didn't work so well.

nah, not really

besides being a victimized community,,there is no natural male leader(#6), there is no connection between being involved and individual self esteem(#5), the movement has no philosophy of superiority (#7), the group is not opposed to individualism or liberalism(#3), or against individual rights(#1)


not to mention, the description doesnt apply first off as the movement is not a government or authority,,,(regime)

Perceived to be victimized. Perceived

Though you have continuously defended the Black Lies Matter movement, its clear that you don't understand the movement, outside of your own involvment in it. You and any other caring, intelligent people go to prayer vigils holding candles really have little to do with the larger Black Lies Matter movement, I'm sorry to say. You are wrong on #5, #7, #3, and #1.

For #3, remember that there is more than one axis of political thought.

In a democratic county, the cultural foundation for fascism is never a government or authority.

The only one you got right is the 'male leader' nonsense, which is simply a matter of historical accident.

it is clear that you dont understand the movement outside of your own involvement in it,,,


hmmm? and what is your source of 'understanding' of the movement?

some more definitions


victim: a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

all I know I would not want to ever live under Fascism it is a police state. I think that the police at times over exert there power over the citizens I seen and heard it a few times lately. I don't like it much.
regarding governments its the power brokers that are directing the governments today individuals and large Corporations. Your most dangerous people are organized on wall street " to large to fail" is more like "too strong to fail " essential they make the rules and you live by them.