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Topic: just being honest
no1phD's photo
Fri 04/07/17 10:02 PM
Edited by no1phD on Fri 04/07/17 10:23 PM


Okay you're in a new relationship everything is going great.. but!
.. but the person you're interested in has one little personal flaw.. or physical flaw
Let's say ...he are she has a muffin top..
Or maybe their teeth are not quite as white as they could be... yellowish..

Now how do you bring this discomfort that you're feeling up to your new partner ?..without totally pissing them off..lol...
I mean you like the whole person it's just this one thing that just drives you a little crazy..
So how do you get the person with the yellow teeth to the dentist for a deep cleaning without hurting there feelings...?
Because I've tried bring up a person's little flaw..lol.. and it didn't go over very well.

So any suggestions..
Because I'm pretty sure we have all been here and done this before



I say... you be the modal... something like I am going to try this crest teeth whitener ... have you used it and did it work ... I have heard it has great results from using it ... would you like to try it at the same time ...see how it turns out ... I will get the products for us ... might figure she can't afford a dentist ...
Crest works pretty good... I have seen the results from using it ...

..nice. Product placement there^^^lol..and i have tryed it!..and it works great! and you can't beat the price ..lol..wink..

no photo
Fri 04/07/17 10:20 PM
when i see long opening posts i skip :'( even though the poster is so handsome
still i can't bear :s

NeonMidnight's photo
Fri 04/07/17 10:58 PM
no one is perfect until you fall in love with them

mzrosie's photo
Fri 04/07/17 11:54 PM
Edited by mzrosie on Fri 04/07/17 11:56 PM

This conversation reminds me of an old song; Perfectly Lonely.

People are human beings before all else and the little things that you think a person should fix to measure up to being with you are the exact ly the things that are going to trash the relationship when they figure out you temporarily "lowered" yourself to be with them. Maybe they don't leave you at the moment but they get fed up a and often become submissive aggressive until they have the opportunity to show you the door; usually when you least expect it or you have fallen off your mighty self appointed throne.


PacificStar, this is deep... reminds me of a sad song...

Ah look at all the lonely people
Ah look at all the lonely people

Eleanor Rigby, picks up the rice
In the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window, wearing the face
That she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?


- Eleanor Rigby, Beatles

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tears


peggy122's photo
Sat 04/08/17 05:12 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Sat 04/08/17 05:47 PM


peggy122's photo
Sat 04/08/17 05:17 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Sat 04/08/17 05:23 PM



..ok.. but dumping them all together because of one little flaw is okay..hmmm.. and again you know I like you so I'm not making this about you..but.. a lot of people have said the same thing okay maybe not a lot..
But. I don't know if it's just a throw-away society we live in or what the problem is.. and I guess that's what this topic is about really it seems easier to walk away from somebody then bring up the issue with them..
And see if we can work on the solution together..hmmm. maybe it's just me



I admire your honesty doc. You post about things that a lot of people think , but are too fearful of offending, to vent in a public forum.

Your choice to not abandon the prospects, who fall short of your standards is noble , but on the flip side , it seems like you are treating these women as "fixer-uppers' that you can tweak and whip into shape, if they submit to the process. I dont think that is your intention , but as an outsider looking in, thats how it comes across to me, and its such a demeaning process for anyone to subject themself to , even when done with the best of intentions.

Ironically that tendency is something that women have been condemned for by
men for YEARS!. ie the woman trying to change or improve their mates, who violently rebel against the humiliating process because they consider themselves to be good enough as they are.

Sounds familiar ?

So this is my thought.. You cant help what you are organically attracted to
or repulsed by. And it appears that your standards for looks and character are unusually high. So here are your viable options as I see it.

You can tell your lady that you are trying a new teeth whitener after all the others have failed, and after seeing the amazing results yourself after a week or two, ask her if she wants to try it too . Even if she sees through your ploy, she might actually appreciate the effort you made to be sensitive.

If she gets highly offended and petulant about it, then perhaps it is a sign that she may not be the best match for you, and let me explain why.

When someone has such seemingly high standards as you do, they need

1. a mate who is heavily critical of themselves and inclined to seek perfection ON THEIR OWN so they dont need to be informed about their flaws
2. ....or they need someone who is thick skinned and able to submit to a lifetime of criticism that will be imposed on them by their mate with the unusually high standards
3. ... or they need to commit themselves to the seemingly never ending search to find that close to perfect mate who they can fully accept as they are


Beachfarmer's photo
Sat 04/08/17 06:14 PM
For there is no such great beauty which hath not some strangeness in proportion.
-Byron

Im not sure where I stand on speaking up and hurting someone's feelings.

I DO know that I so appreciate someone pointing out that I have something hanging from my nose before I go into a social situation.

This is difficult! I despise hurting feelings!

Godsfriend10's photo
Sat 04/08/17 06:21 PM

when i see long opening posts i skip :'( even though the poster is so handsome
still i can't bear :s


Maybe, you don't like reading...:::wink: :wink:

mzrosie's photo
Sat 04/08/17 06:22 PM
Edited by mzrosie on Sat 04/08/17 06:23 PM




..ok.. but dumping them all together because of one little flaw is okay..hmmm.. and again you know I like you so I'm not making this about you..but.. a lot of people have said the same thing okay maybe not a lot..
But. I don't know if it's just a throw-away society we live in or what the problem is.. and I guess that's what this topic is about really it seems easier to walk away from somebody then bring up the issue with them..
And see if we can work on the solution together..hmmm. maybe it's just me



I admire your honesty doc. You post about things that a lot of people think , but are too fearful of offending, to vent in a public forum.

Your choice to not abandon the prospects, who fall short of your standards is noble , but on the flip side , it seems like you are treating these women as "fixer-uppers' that you can tweak and whip into shape, if they submit to the process. I dont think that is your intention , but as an outsider looking in, thats how it comes across to me, and its such a demeaning process for anyone to subject themself to , even when done with the best of intentions.

Ironically that tendency is something that women have been condemned for by
men for YEARS!. ie the woman trying to change or improve their mates, who violently rebel against the humiliating process because they consider themselves to be good enough as they are.

Sounds familiar ?

So this is my thought.. You cant help what you are organically attracted to
or repulsed by. And it appears that your standards for looks and character are unusually high. So here are your viable options as I see it.

You can tell your lady that you are trying a new teeth whitener after all the others have failed, and after seeing the amazing results yourself after a week or two, ask her if she wants to try it too . Even if she sees through your ploy, she might actually appreciate the effort you made to be sensitive.

If she gets highly offended and petulant about it, then perhaps it is a sign that she may not be the best match for you, and let me explain why.

When someone has such seemingly high standards as you do, they need

1. a mate who is heavily critical of themselves and inclined to seek perfection ON THEIR OWN so they dont need to be informed about their flaws
2. ....or they need someone who is thick skinned and able to submit to a lifetime of criticism that will be imposed on them by their mate with the unusually high standards
3. ... or they need to commit themselves to the seemingly never ending search to find that close to perfect mate who they can fully accept as they are




Peggy, you explain a situation like no other... very thorough, thoughtful and respectful of other people's feelings.

Kudos to you, smart young lady flowerforyou

... oops forgot to say .. and beautiful to boot


no photo
Sat 04/08/17 06:22 PM
I said it earlier and I'll say it again since it was overlooked the first time. If you think pointing out a minor flaw of your partner is a good and normal thing, the bigger problem in the relationship is you not the flaw...

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/08/17 06:23 PM
Curious....wouldn't that be something you figured out before getting serious?

peggy122's photo
Sun 04/09/17 04:53 AM





..ok.. but dumping them all together because of one little flaw is okay..hmmm.. and again you know I like you so I'm not making this about you..but.. a lot of people have said the same thing okay maybe not a lot..
But. I don't know if it's just a throw-away society we live in or what the problem is.. and I guess that's what this topic is about really it seems easier to walk away from somebody then bring up the issue with them..
And see if we can work on the solution together..hmmm. maybe it's just me



I admire your honesty doc. You post about things that a lot of people think , but are too fearful of offending, to vent in a public forum.

Your choice to not abandon the prospects, who fall short of your standards is noble , but on the flip side , it seems like you are treating these women as "fixer-uppers' that you can tweak and whip into shape, if they submit to the process. I dont think that is your intention , but as an outsider looking in, thats how it comes across to me, and its such a demeaning process for anyone to subject themself to , even when done with the best of intentions.

Ironically that tendency is something that women have been condemned for by
men for YEARS!. ie the woman trying to change or improve their mates, who violently rebel against the humiliating process because they consider themselves to be good enough as they are.

Sounds familiar ?

So this is my thought.. You cant help what you are organically attracted to
or repulsed by. And it appears that your standards for looks and character are unusually high. So here are your viable options as I see it.

You can tell your lady that you are trying a new teeth whitener after all the others have failed, and after seeing the amazing results yourself after a week or two, ask her if she wants to try it too . Even if she sees through your ploy, she might actually appreciate the effort you made to be sensitive.

If she gets highly offended and petulant about it, then perhaps it is a sign that she may not be the best match for you, and let me explain why.

When someone has such seemingly high standards as you do, they need

1. a mate who is heavily critical of themselves and inclined to seek perfection ON THEIR OWN so they dont need to be informed about their flaws
2. ....or they need someone who is thick skinned and able to submit to a lifetime of criticism that will be imposed on them by their mate with the unusually high standards
3. ... or they need to commit themselves to the seemingly never ending search to find that close to perfect mate who they can fully accept as they are




Peggy, you explain a situation like no other... very thorough, thoughtful and respectful of other people's feelings.

Kudos to you, smart young lady flowerforyou

... oops forgot to say .. and beautiful to boot




Aaaawwww.... Thank you so much Rosie. This is really kind of you flowers

prayas7's photo
Sun 04/09/17 08:39 AM
love take the unmask
there are no perfect yet thou we look our perspective are for outer looking personality only then the rest is unreal that the eventually can have a relationship I know there are no Mr/Miss _prefect
I have been 2,3 date till 28 I experience
thou have good personality what's you guys thought judge by profile
if I me u can inbox

prayas7's photo
Sun 04/09/17 08:39 AM
love take the unmask
there are no perfect yet thou we look our perspective are for outer looking personality only then the rest is unreal that the eventually can have a relationship I know there are no Mr/Miss _prefect
I have been 2,3 date till 28 I experience
thou have good personality what's you guys thought judge by profile
if I me u can inbox

prayas7's photo
Sun 04/09/17 08:39 AM
love take the unmask
there are no perfect yet thou we look our perspective are for outer looking personality only then the rest is unreal that the eventually can have a relationship I know there are no Mr/Miss _prefect
I have been 2,3 date till 28 I experience
thou have good personality what's you guys thought judge by profile
if I me u can inbox

peggy122's photo
Sun 04/09/17 08:56 AM
Edited by peggy122 on Sun 04/09/17 08:58 AM
sorry. I posted in the wrong thread lol

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