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Topic: " Legalize It...Legalize Or Adverstise"
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Wed 05/10/17 01:52 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 05/10/17 02:12 PM

FunkyJunkie,

Welcome my new friend of M2, this is a friendly debate, no ill will to you.

My new alias is EyeAmYourHost39 aka God's Advocate.

Well the difference between my cigar fine ones not those cheap 7-11 brands that contains fruit flavors which the kids roll the "Mary" to. I do the mafia style cigars, but let me get back. The difference is that I can smoke my cigar in front of a cop and you try to smoke a joint in front of him, well it can end disastrous.

The difference between my cigar and weed, my cigars until recently before the nationwide smoking ban, I used to be able to smoke in sports bars, sports events, gentlemen's clubs, & restaurants. Weed well I never seen a sports fan smoke a stick at hooters....lol.

the difference with my cigar, Celebrities smoke them as a prestige thing people like Suge Knight, Bill Cosby, Late Comedian George Burns, Rock Hudson, & More.

Oh okay Weed well I admit celebrities have back it up like Snoop Dogg, Willie Nelson, Rick James, & more..okay I give you that!



Greetings EyeAmYourHost39
If weed should be illegal then so should tea and coffee. Both contain caffeine, a stimulant which alters one's state of mind. However, both of the commodities are deemed acceptable. Caffeine will kill you quicker than weed. That caffeine rush could be responsible for many accidents that might not have happened otherwise but nobody's checking up on that.

Again, your acceptance of the official indoctrination shines through. It's as if you believe that weed was made illegal for our protection.

It was made illegal for the good of the masters of industry. It was made illegal as a way to persecute The Average Joe. It was made illegal so that the department that had been charged with enforcing prohibition wouldn't have to be disbanded. It was made illegal so that prisons would be sufficiently populated to provide the slave labour the American economy still is desperately dependant on. It's criminalisation has always been a sham.


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Wed 05/10/17 01:58 PM
Actually those that use marijuana for recreational purposes will continue to use it regardless if it is legal or not..no different then those that drink or smoke cigs or stogies if those items became illegal those that want to partake will regardless...

There is no known reason why it should not be legal for medical purposes across all states..

Whether some know it or not cancer patients are receiving medical marijuana and that is even within states that it is not legal yet.. Have a friend that just went through Colon Cancer without it he would not been able to cope.. With it made a world of difference...

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Wed 05/10/17 02:47 PM

As for the individuals currently serving prison time on pot related offenses:
There is no issue. They broke the law while the law was valid. Therefore they should serve their time under the ruling of the judges that decided their fate. I'm sure some leniency could be granted during parole hearings but the fact remains that they broke a valid law and were sentenced in a valid court.


this is one of the most ridiculous statements i have ever read...

example:
i just happen to live in the state of Texas i was prosecuted
on the charge of CULTIVATING marijuana - aggregate weight 5lbs 1 oz
what i planned to use it for is unimportant to the law.

my sentence was the max... 3rd degree felony 10 years in prison
and a 10,000 dollar fine....2 months into serving my sentence
the supreme court rules these archaic laws are unconstitutional
as a violation of my rights of privacy and life liberty and pursuit
of happiness and strikes them from the law...

do you really believe i should serve out the 9 years and 10 months
of the prison sentence and pay the fine...????

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Wed 05/10/17 03:12 PM
FunkyJunkie,

you right I can't lie I love a nice cup of coffee in the morning. I love a nice refreshing pepsi soda on a warm day. I know its not fair just to pick on weed when you have other regulated products that's killing us too. But I don't know, its a subject that needs this here to be discussed.

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Wed 05/10/17 03:17 PM
That's why we are here, for discussion. It's all good.

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Wed 05/10/17 03:25 PM
I thought all comments would be answered.

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Wed 05/10/17 03:31 PM
Bro, you forgot the lady! laugh

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Wed 05/10/17 06:18 PM
EAYH, my brother from another mother, as we sit sip on our cup of tea I can't wait to get to the point, that's why I rarely reply to your posts. I am for medical marijuana, it is probably a good drug for many things, and probably a lot cheaper than many other drugs. But then we have to deal with the freeloaders that just use it as an excuse for insurance or others to pay for their addiction. Millions are already addicted to "legal" drugs handed out by their doctors. What do you think happened to Prince? That is just a recent high profile case, there are many more like that. As far as legalizing it for recreational I feel like we already have enough stupid and lazy people running around. At what age would people be allowed to buy and use it? 18? 21? You know kids would be getting a hold of it, probably easier than they do now. It would definitely need to be treated like alcohol so people didn't show up stoned. If people want to smoke up at home on the weekends I have no problem with it, but you know most that chose to use will do much more than that. Alcohol is a solution, Marijuana is a substance like other drugs. Mushrooms grow natural too so is anything that grows natural be legal? Those are my thoughts, take it how you want, we may save a little money in the legal system, but sooner or later the cost will show up in the medical costs and loss of work production and people will say "Well its legal so I thought it was safe".

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Thu 05/11/17 12:11 AM

Actually those that use marijuana for recreational purposes will continue to use it regardless if it is legal or not..no different then those that drink or smoke cigs or stogies if those items became illegal those that want to partake will regardless...

There is no known reason why it should not be legal for medical purposes across all states..

Whether some know it or not cancer patients are receiving medical marijuana and that is even within states that it is not legal yet.. Have a friend that just went through Colon Cancer without it he would not been able to cope.. With it made a world of difference...


I have known many people who use marijuana recreationally, who held down jobs and were intelligent and law abiding

I say if there is no crime, there is no criminal. And mj use and selling should not be criminal. If someone uses it as an excuse to commit a crime, prosecute them for the actual crime.

they say marijuana is a 'gateway' but I do not believe it, I believe alcohol and cigarettes to be much more often the 'first' product used by a person seeking a 'high', before moving onto harder things


lord knows, I feel much safer around someone who is merely high on mj than around someone drunk from alcohol


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Thu 05/11/17 06:34 AM


Actually those that use marijuana for recreational purposes will continue to use it regardless if it is legal or not..no different then those that drink or smoke cigs or stogies if those items became illegal those that want to partake will regardless...

There is no known reason why it should not be legal for medical purposes across all states..

Whether some know it or not cancer patients are receiving medical marijuana and that is even within states that it is not legal yet.. Have a friend that just went through Colon Cancer without it he would not been able to cope.. With it made a world of difference...


I have known many people who use marijuana recreationally, who held down jobs and were intelligent and law abiding

I say if there is no crime, there is no criminal. And mj use and selling should not be criminal. If someone uses it as an excuse to commit a crime, prosecute them for the actual crime.

they say marijuana is a 'gateway' but I do not believe it, I believe alcohol and cigarettes to be much more often the 'first' product used by a person seeking a 'high', before moving onto harder things


lord knows, I feel much safer around someone who is merely high on mj than around someone drunk from alcohol




msharmony..........I totally agree with you....

You don't see people in drug rehab just for marijuana only noway

They don't have to give you any drugs to detox from it you just stop...slaphead

But it does knock out the pain as well as a great medical use for many things..smile2

As you said I know many that hold high power jobs and own their own business yet partake on a daily basis....

And I almost bet crime rate for those that just smoke are so far down on the scale it is almost unreal. Normally when there is a crime taken place if they are on drugs it will be a lot more then just weed...


Good discussion EyeAmYourHost39 but then your post always are...:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Thu 05/11/17 09:58 AM
FunkyJunkie


yes we talk, share opinions, and learn from each other is what's its all about. not to get off topic I was watching how some people doing these prank videos and this guy took a 'Ghost Pepper" dried in a sack like a nickel bag and placed it on top paper and proceed to smoke the pepper....crazy! he started to cough severely to the point the scoeville heat units was burning his lungs he had to go to the hospital. I mean what would make this young man think smoking drying hot peppers and thought of even maintaining a high , brother are you crazy! I give you another one, one video put dry cinnamon and begin to smoke it , he had a side effect reaction. I think weed getting ready to be a relic compare to these nuts in the world....lol

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Thu 05/11/17 10:09 AM
Dust4Fun

Hey my light Skinned brother from another mother....lol well I hear your comments and I have to say you come with great intelligents & wisdom. I know we always seen drugs played a part in musicians creativity. I mean I don't know where you honestly stand on weed? Have you ever done it? I'm tell you a secret, when I was 19 I was offered a toke of the "Mary Jane" I puff it, I must didn't toke it right I didn't feel no different. So after that I never touched it again, no desire for years.

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Thu 05/11/17 10:10 AM
was stoned everyday for years and years...kept a job got things done etc etc...these days I don't touch it went thru lifestyle changes and don't like melting into the couch any more...for nausea, arthritis & migraines it works very well...and think about the tax revenue this country could gain thru full legalization... look at the money Colorado has raked in...its a HUGE money maker...pot alone could eliminate the deficit without even including hemp products...its less dangerous than alcohol or prescription meds... the pros far outweigh the cons...just legalize tax and regulate it already

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Thu 05/11/17 10:20 AM
37KO,

welcome back my friend, well I'm for anything that lowers crime and the national debt. I'm also in favor for any medical cures like blindness, cancers, pain, & other medical break throughs .

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Thu 05/11/17 04:00 PM

GreenEyes148,

well did you have the cheech & chong munchies when you were a teen experimenting with the " Chai Sticks".?


I was like a mad scientist. I would mix Columbian & Jamaican weed to try to grow a better strain.

I would have it hanging upside down drying by heat lamps in my bedroom. It never came out good.. too harsh.

I'm sure the NYC soil was not the best type to grow it in.

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Thu 05/11/17 07:30 PM

Dust4Fun

Hey my light Skinned brother from another mother....lol well I hear your comments and I have to say you come with great intelligents & wisdom. I know we always seen drugs played a part in musicians creativity. I mean I don't know where you honestly stand on weed? Have you ever done it? I'm tell you a secret, when I was 19 I was offered a toke of the "Mary Jane" I puff it, I must didn't toke it right I didn't feel no different. So after that I never touched it again, no desire for years.
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Since you were willing to share your secret with just me, I used to hang in a circle of people where it was common place, i smoked it a few times and it puts me to sleep. However those who understand how the mind works everyone is different. Those with ADHD can benefit from being stimulated, there are many forms of depression and some may be helped with marijuana while others will have disastrous results. And I'm no expert on mental heath or the brain, nobody is as there is a lot going on with it, and they are all wired different. My "drug" of choice back in the day was alcohol, but it wasn't necessarily the alcohol but the bar, or social gathering that it involved as being my stimulant. People respond different to different types of alcohol. Someone can drink beer and be a friendly as can be, but give them some whiskey and they want to kill someone. I was for the most part a happy drunk, while others would get angry, or emotional, or just lose control of themselves. Weed and other drugs can have different affects on different people. The burn outs in high school who smoke weed would probably still be burn outs with out it, or on something else. The problem is when they blame everyone else for their problems instead of trying to better themselves. Depression, ADHD, Anxiety,and many other things are very similar to addiction in the way the brain is wired and releases endorphins. Video games and phones now fit into this as does peoples hobbies, everyone has the things that make them click. Some people to to religion or God as their thing. So I have no doubt that marijuana will work for some and not others. My thing is it is most often smoked and has similar affects as cigarettes in heath related problems. I also believe it should be paid for by the user, not the insurance companies or tax payers, I believe drugs like viagra should also be paid for by the users as its a personal decision if you want to have sex. People don't understand the Affordable care act, and possibly its replacement will work unless people start taking some responsibility of their own actions and the doctors quit pushing unneeded drug and procedures on people.

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Fri 05/12/17 11:39 AM
Edited by EyeAmYourHost39 on Fri 05/12/17 12:02 PM
GreenEyes148,

I just received the wow factor on that......I love research & Knowledge.......lol.

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Fri 05/12/17 12:01 PM
Dust4Fun,

I like the fact you broke down the data about how addiction works and knowledge of the effects of it. Like I mentioned before, I don't judge anybody that use it, but I can't support it as a legalized drug. I seen the effects of it in the wrong hands & the wrong uses and it wasn't a positive look. Its no for me, I hate the smell of it. Its too risky buying as well getting caught with it, and to bring comedy top a serous subject, have you ever heard somebody that's a chronic user try to have a conversation? They sound like a broken Megadeath Record. They constant forget what they was talking about ? ......lol " I do a impression, hey EyeAm, what was this topic about?....lol

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