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Topic: petrol /diesel cars
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Wed 07/26/17 01:09 PM
Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.

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Wed 07/26/17 01:29 PM

Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?

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Wed 07/26/17 01:32 PM
Everybody headed to battery powered. Not sure about the ecology of making all those batteries? Disposal after life span ends?

USA is short on diesel for God knows why. Government BS I am sure.

VW CC Diesel in UK = Awesome. No diesel here in USA. Turbo gas = about 35 MPG or something best they can do.

TOYOTA was to bring Diesel TUNDRA here in 2015 with CUMMINS engine. We didn't get them and all went quiet.

I am considering AUDI Diesel SUV.

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Wed 07/26/17 01:37 PM


Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?


Well, the batteries aren't so "Clean" to manufacture. Disposal...Kind of like nuclear waste.

The charging...VIA...Nuclear power plant electricity? Coal? We have a few power generating Dams in Texas but only drop in bucket for KW usage.

A lot to figure out but here we go,

I think TESLA is quoting what, 200 miles per charge?

We are having a bunch of battery charge stions added to Houston area this year.

What to do in Texas when one travels many miles?
Small towns will not have battery charging stations for a long time so only City commuting for now.

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Wed 07/26/17 01:37 PM


Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?

Yes that's right Pisces.
Not sure about the batteries. I guess by then they'll be a lot better.

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Wed 07/26/17 01:39 PM
There are a few charging points in the UK. it's the time they take to charge.
I'm surprised the big oil giants haven't had something to say about this!

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Wed 07/26/17 01:42 PM
Edited by LeeFranklin on Wed 07/26/17 01:43 PM

There are a few charging points in the UK. it's the time they take to charge.
I'm surprised the big oil giants haven't had something to say about this!


Houston is getting "quick charge" stations installed per the News guys.
About 0 minutes of something.

I want a TESLA bad. The quality is over the top.

Lithium batteries I hope do not come into the auto realm. Very dangerous in many conditions.

As far as UK tax $...??? That is something that will have to be dealt with huh?

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Wed 07/26/17 01:45 PM



Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?


Well, the batteries aren't so "Clean" to manufacture. Disposal...Kind of like nuclear waste.

The charging...VIA...Nuclear power plant electricity? Coal? We have a few power generating Dams in Texas but only drop in bucket for KW usage.

A lot to figure out but here we go,

I think TESLA is quoting what, 200 miles per charge?

We are having a bunch of battery charge stions added to Houston area this year.

What to do in Texas when one travels many miles?
Small towns will not have battery charging stations for a long time so only City commuting for now.


Thanks Lee for explaining. Seems like getting rid of one problem could induce a new problem for the environment.


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Wed 07/26/17 01:48 PM



Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?

Yes that's right Pisces.
Not sure about the batteries. I guess by then they'll be a lot better.


I see now. Yes, hopefully by then they will have a way to make batteries safer, or come up with a better way to run vehicles.

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Wed 07/26/17 01:49 PM




Britain has just announced the banning of all petrol and diesel engine cars from 2040! Germany 2030.
The uk government collects millions in tax from this so that will have to come from somewhere else.
BMW has just announced that they will build the new all electric mini in the UK to.



I don't quite understand. Do you mean the banning with begin in the year 2040 for Britain and 2030 for Germany?

I like the concept of electric cars, much better for the environment...I believe? But how long do they last before needing to be recharged? And what kind of effect will the battery have on the environment as far as radiation?


Well, the batteries aren't so "Clean" to manufacture. Disposal...Kind of like nuclear waste.

The charging...VIA...Nuclear power plant electricity? Coal? We have a few power generating Dams in Texas but only drop in bucket for KW usage.

A lot to figure out but here we go,

I think TESLA is quoting what, 200 miles per charge?

We are having a bunch of battery charge stions added to Houston area this year.

What to do in Texas when one travels many miles?
Small towns will not have battery charging stations for a long time so only City commuting for now.


Thanks Lee for explaining. Seems like getting rid of one problem could induce a new problem for the environment.




Yep, best thing so far is solar power. But, what does it take to manufacture all those solar cells? We could all go to work at what...10 MPH and no AC/Heat?

Sometimes the quick and obvious solutions aren't that much for the long term.

I have been in oil business many years and I often wish the first guys a Spindletop, TX would have just capped that first sucker and gone to the bar for a drink.

Oil can be handled responsibly but the Earth is ready for an alternative that is practical.

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Wed 07/26/17 03:12 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 07/26/17 03:15 PM
their Cranium is stuck in the wrong place!
Not enough Lithium/Cobalt for the Batteries,and not enough Rare Earth-Minerals for the Motor-Magnets!
Just not enough stuff to go around!
Besides,some of those Ingredients are outright poisonous!
Lithium is more reactive than Sodium!
Good luck when it (Battery) catches fire!

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Wed 07/26/17 03:56 PM

their Cranium is stuck in the wrong place!
Not enough Lithium/Cobalt for the Batteries,and not enough Rare Earth-Minerals for the Motor-Magnets!
Just not enough stuff to go around!
Besides,some of those Ingredients are outright poisonous!
Lithium is more reactive than Sodium!
Good luck when it (Battery) catches fire!

Makes a lot of sense^

Magnets are needed for motors and generators.
Motors work from electromagnetic repulsion.
Generators work from electromagnetic induction.

It might be interesting to list methods of propulsion and discuss the ramifications of each? Who knows what we might figure out?

Animal Power - Mankind has used animal power for conveyance for a few thousand years. Its slow but fairly reliable.

Steam Power - Anyone wanna talk about a steampunk version of the future?

Burning Fossil Fuels / Internal Combustion - Our current standard.

Electrical - Solar, wind and water generated requiring batteries for portability.

Nuclear - Not practical for the application, too dangerous.

Hydrogen - basically using rocket fuel.

Walking - baseline human conveyance.

Teleportation - not even close to being commercially available.

Mechanical Compounding - Using gears from human work to amplify power or speed (think 18 speed bicycles beefed up).

Telecommuting & Virtual Presense - Does not actually move matter from one location to another.

Floating in Air - high tech hot air balloons

Everything else I can think of are more science fiction than probable real science.


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Wed 07/26/17 04:07 PM
Edited by Robxbox73 on Wed 07/26/17 04:08 PM
Well, electric cars are nice for small countries like England and Japan. But in counrries like Austrailia, America andTexas and the rest of the world we need a dinosaur in our fuel thanks! My 2 cents on the matter.

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Wed 07/26/17 06:15 PM
If you go back 100 years or so, nickel iron batteries were used in electric cars. If I remember right, Jay Leno has a couple with the original batteries, and still running.
Draw back though, they don't put out as much power as a modern lead acid battery, so more are needed to produce the same power.
Maybe we can learn from the past.

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Wed 07/26/17 08:16 PM
mikey do you have a tesla? how many? :thumbsup:

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Wed 07/26/17 10:51 PM

mikey do you have a tesla? how many? :thumbsup:

Hey, no I don't have one.
Do you drive miss afib? waving

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Wed 07/26/17 11:38 PM


mikey do you have a tesla? how many? :thumbsup:

Hey, no I don't have one.
Do you drive miss afib? waving

i do my afib friend, but no teslawinking and nothing on two wheels lol my heart cannot stand that kind of excitement slaphead

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Thu 07/27/17 01:33 PM



mikey do you have a tesla? how many? :thumbsup:

Hey, no I don't have one.
Do you drive miss afib? waving

i do my afib friend, but no teslawinking and nothing on two wheels lol my heart cannot stand that kind of excitement slaphead


Points for me please...Cause I want a Tesla.

Please.flowerforyou

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Thu 07/27/17 01:54 PM



mikey do you have a tesla? how many? :thumbsup:

Hey, no I don't have one.
Do you drive miss afib? waving

i do my afib friend, but no teslawinking and nothing on two wheels lol my heart cannot stand that kind of excitement slaphead

Oh, it's a Bentley then? laugh

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Thu 07/27/17 02:03 PM

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