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Topic: Hillary's meaningless opinion on why she lost
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Sun 09/17/17 09:17 AM

© slate.com

"Putin did it!"
Hillary Clinton recently claimed that one of the reasons she lost the 2016 race was because Vladimir Putin had a "personal vendetta" against her. Speaking to Radio Sputnik, US politics observer Alexei Zudin suggested that Clinton's problem is that she just can't accept the real reasons behind her defeat, which go far beyond personal politics.

"There's no doubt in my mind that Putin wanted me to lose and wanted Trump to win," Clinton said, speaking to USA Today about her book What Happened last week. The former candidate suggested that Putin had a "personal vendetta" against her and Bill Clinton going back to NATO's eastward expansion beginning in the late 90s, and over her support for protests against the Russian president in 2011 when she was secretary of state.

Speaking to Sputnik, Alexei Zudin, US watcher and expert at the Institute of Socio-Economic and Political Studies, suggested that Mrs. Clinton's problem is that even almost a year after the election, she still refuses to grasp the reasons behind her loss, or come to terms with it.

"Hillary Clinton was unlucky," the observer said. "She became the victim of a long-term political trend, which culminated in the collapse of the political orders, the political systems created by globalization. This collapse is occurring in the two main epicenters of globalization, with Brexit in the UK and Donald Trump in the US serving as the proof."

"Hillary Clinton cannot understand or accept this," Zudin noted, and to some extent this is understandable. "Politicians tend to consider the systems they have created as something eternal. But it doesn't happen this way, and didn't happen this time, either."

Therefore, the observer suggested that with her claim that Putin has a 'personal vendetta' against her, "she is insulting President Trump, and demonstrating her impotence and inability to grasp the reality of the situation in which she has found herself. There is a Latin proverb: 'Jupiter is angry, therefore [he is] wrong.' Hillary Clinton is no Jupiter, but in this case it this proverb is fully applicable to her."

In her interview with USA Today, Clinton reiterated her claim that Russia launched a "massive covert attack against our...democracy," and said that there was "no doubt" in her mind "that the Trump campaign and other associates have worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians."

Several investigations are underway into Russia's alleged meddling in the 2016 US presidential election. Moscow has repeatedly denied these charges, calling them baseless and absolutely unsubstantiated.

Comment: Killary lost, not only from a crumbling global world order, but from a crumbling self structure that allowed her to create a campaign built on her personal fantasies that included a privileged pass on lies, corruption, misappropriation, vendettas and likely a slew of crimes against other countries, the American people and those particular individuals she found necessary to eliminate. The evil she sees lies within her. She is not so much a victim of the times as she is a victim of herself.



i've always heard that if you keep telling the same lie,it becomes true in your mind...

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Sun 09/17/17 09:22 AM
As Hillary Clinton makes the rounds to sell her book on any television program or venue that will have her, it becomes clearer and clearer that by electing Donald Trump, the country saved itself from certain disaster. So why is no one saying what is patently obvious? Mrs. Clinton is a classic narcissist. She has narcissistic personality disorder.

There's a reason narcissists don't learn from mistakes and that's because they never get past the first step which is admitting that they made one. It's always an assistant's fault, an adviser's fault, a lawyer's fault. Ask them to account for a mistake any other way and they'll say, 'what mistake?'" -Jeffrey Kluger

As she is interviewed by one person after another, she blames countless other people for her 2016 election loss. Her list of reasons that she lost is endless, but she is not on it. The extent to which she holds others responsible is mind-numbing, and yet her interviewers sit there listening to her never-ending grievances against others and pretend the woman is sane. She clearly is not.

There are nine essential traits of a narcissist, each of which describes HRC to a tee:

1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration [regularly fishes for compliments and is highly susceptible to flattery].
5. Has a sense of entitlement.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling [or, I would add, unable] to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty [rude and abusive] behaviors or attitudes.

Two additional traits are that the things a narcissist most desires are money and power.

Those old enough to have followed Mrs. Clinton's career from the beginning know that all of the symptoms above are part and parcel of her personality. As first lady of Arkansas, as first lady of the U.S., and as secretary of state, she exhibited each of the traits listed above. She took for granted that she would win the election. It never crossed her mind that Donald Trump could or would defeat her. She had no concession speech prepared. She was to deliver her acceptance speech under the real and metaphorical glass ceiling of the Javits Center the night of her victory. Fireworks were deployed over the Hudson River that night to celebrate.

There was, in her mind and the minds of her supporters, not a chance she would lose. Then she did. Her behavior since has been appalling. She has not a gracious bone in her body. Why? Because narcissists are never grateful for anything or to anyone. They are entirely self-focused and toxic.

So now she is speaking out anywhere and to anyone who will listen to her grumbling, accusatory complaints about those she blames for her loss. The woman is pathetic in every sense of the word. She is both deplorable and pitiable. Her disorder is so obvious with every successive interview that it is a wonder that so far, not one of these so-called journalists has challenged her. She dismisses her many breaches of the law as insignificant because she believes she is above the law. Matt Lauer did ask if her own self-inflicted wounds were enough to cause her loss; she said no! She may well be the most self-unaware woman on the planet.

President Obama was a classic narcissist himself and often as self-unaware as Ms. Clinton. But she has, since her loss, put her disorder on public display in a manner that is truly embarrassing. She complains about the tragedy of Benghazi hurting her politically without mentioning those who died, a classic lack of empathy. Those victims do not enter her mind beyond being inconvenient to her campaign.

She indicts the media, who were wholly on her side; Bernie Sanders, who was the most docile primary opponent she could have wished for; and James Comey, who was determined to keep her out of legal jeopardy. She blames sexism, misogyny, even white supremacism! It is a sad spectacle. Why is no one within her family or circle of friends stopping her? They must see what everyone else sees: a woman so convinced of her own superiority that she is entirely comfortable blaming a host of outside factors for her loss. She actually seems to believe she won but for Russia, Comey, Fox News, etc. etc.

Thankfully, Hillary lost the election because she was terrible candidate without a defined set of policies. Obama's policies were her policies, and Obama's policies did terrible damage to this country. Hillary's agenda is the promotion of Hillary - that and nothing more. She cares not one bit about the American people or the nation as founded. She even reveals in her book that she completely missed the point of Orwell's 1984. She thinks it is a paean to the justifiable authoritarianism of an elite leadership class, that its meaning is to trust big government! That is how not bright Mrs. Clinton is. On her book tour, she is demonstrating to all that the United States dodged a nuke when they did not elect her.

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Sun 09/17/17 09:40 AM
Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 09/17/17 10:04 AM
Many people that I know, wanted change from thw Obama crap

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 10:10 AM

Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl


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Sun 09/17/17 10:17 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 09/17/17 10:18 AM


Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl

offtopic Trump is not the subject.offtopic

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 10:18 AM



Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl

offtopic Trump is not the subject.offtopic



Clinton losing to Trump is and someone mentioned narcissism,, so it all fits in....:wink:

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Sun 09/17/17 10:24 AM




Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl

offtopic Trump is not the subject.offtopic



Clinton losing to Trump is and someone mentioned narcissism,, so it all fits in....:wink:


close but not quite.ohwell

mightymoe's photo
Sun 09/17/17 11:36 AM



Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl

offtopic Trump is not the subject.offtopic

it never is...she can't get the Donald out of mind...kinda fun to watch her go crazy tho...

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 11:49 AM
kind of 'fun' to watch people give accolades to Trump, then cry when others dont follow suit or disagree ...

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 09/17/17 11:55 AM

kind of 'fun' to watch people give accolades to Trump, then cry when others dont follow suit or disagree ...


Saw it with 8 yrs of Obama

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 11:57 AM
and will continue to see it with every president,,,its called double standards and hypocrisy,,,

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 09/17/17 12:15 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sun 09/17/17 12:16 PM

and will continue to see it with every president,,,its called double standards and hypocrisy,,,


I never saw it really as one sided. I don't like politicians. I am not a hypocrite

I see it on all sides and call hypocrisy out

mightymoe's photo
Sun 09/17/17 12:31 PM


and will continue to see it with every president,,,its called double standards and hypocrisy,,,


I never saw it really as one sided. I don't like politicians. I am not a hypocrite

I see it on all sides and call hypocrisy out
she does that to change the topic... notice no one has said Hillary for a while...

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 12:35 PM
what is in the air today with all these personal attacks and projections?

the topic actually has HILARY's name in it.

Workin4it's photo
Sun 09/17/17 12:37 PM


Just what we needed to seal the deal The poster child for narcissism in this country. Bill really did a number on her.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl really? really!?

does the name TRUMP not mean anything to people? You know the man who never takes responsibility for any of the crap he creates? The man who puts his name on EVERYTHING he works with. The man who makes personal attacks against ANYONE who challenges him. The man who insists any bad press about him is FAKE NEWS?

I guess, once again, the penis outranks the vagina.

Narcissism poster child... thats hilarious
rofl rofl rofl rofl


your right, the " penis does out rank the vagina" as you so elegantly put it. And it always will according to the bible . God made woman from Adams rib. Not my rules so don't say I'm a chavonis

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/17/17 12:44 PM
God never said anything about man out ranking women, he made her a 'help mate' for her HUSBAND

he didnt make all women SECONDARY to all men

and its 'chauvanist'

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Sun 09/17/17 12:48 PM
she is absolutely pathetic!grumble

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Mon 09/18/17 12:25 AM
from a post on FB!

This really is the the 'Truth' according to Hilary: we, the American Public, are to blame for her loss. We, the American Public, are too sexist, too mysogynistic, too hateful, too hate-filled, too nationalistic, too backward, too led by our husbands, too White, too attached to our Electoral College, too attached to our laws, too ill-informed, too ignorant and too just plain stupid to realize the greatness that is Hilary Clinton. I'll admit to being glad I'm an American and know the genius of the Founding Fathers in setting up the Constitution but the rest? Nope. The stupid, sexism, backwardness, etc. are all her's and something she can never admit to because it would cause her to have a mental breakdown. All the better she lost; we don't need a second consecutive POTUS with narcissistic personality disorders. Her blaming us for her loss,proves she has it.

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Mon 09/18/17 01:33 AM
Edited by mui887 on Mon 09/18/17 01:35 AM
In her new book "What Happened" Hillary Clinton, she asked and answered her own question on the cover of the book. laugh

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