Topic: New swiss bill makes all preaching done in national language
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Wed 09/27/17 04:30 PM
Bill prohibiting foreign financing of Swiss mosques and requires preaching in national language passes lower house

RT
Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:09 UTC
© Fabrice Coffrini / AFP
Minaret of Geneva mosque in the neighbourhood of Le Petit-Saconnex Geneva.
Mosques in Switzerland should be prohibited from receiving financing from abroad and imams should be required to preach in a Swiss national language, the country's lower house of parliament has decided.

MPs voted 94 to 89 in favor of a bill proposed by the member of the Lega dei Ticinesi party, which aims to make rules for mosques in Switzerland stricter, the local media outlet Neue Zuercher Zeitung reports.

The legislation stipulates that mosques would be forbidden from receiving foreign money.

They would also have to declare where their financial backing comes from and for what purpose their money would be used.

Imams would also be required to preach in the language of the area where the mosque is based.

That language would be one of Switzerland's official languages - German, French, Italian, or Romansch.

However, the bill - which will now be passed onto the Swiss Senate for further debate - is not backed by the country's federal government, which believes it discriminates against Muslims by placing them under suspicion, and thus fuels the arguments of extremists.

Bern is also against the language requirement, believing that freedom of language applies to people of all religions.

The Wednesday vote isn't the first time Switzerland's lower house has moved to tighten the country's laws when it comes to Muslims.

One year ago, it narrowly passed a bill to implement a ban on the Islamic face veil and other coverings. However, that move was later rejected by the Senate.

Swiss mosques have recently been at the center of a number of police operations over alleged support for radical Islam.

An Ethiopian imam from a mosque in Winterthur was charged with inciting violence after he urged his followers to kill non-practicing Muslims.

Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."

The Swiss media revealed that the Libyan cleric had received around 600,000 Swiss francs ($620,000) in social benefits from the Swiss government over the last 13 years, but that it wasn't enough to soften his stance towards "infidels."

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Wed 09/27/17 06:36 PM

Bill prohibiting foreign financing of Swiss mosques and requires preaching in national language passes lower house


Uh, do they have to give a little yodel, too?


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Wed 09/27/17 07:31 PM

yes, and a horn....Ricola!


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Wed 09/27/17 08:01 PM


yes, and a horn....Ricola!



I have a great sounding cowbell

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Wed 09/27/17 08:09 PM
Edited by Integrityis1st on Wed 09/27/17 08:11 PM

Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.

Where did you come up with this? I do agree very observant and well said. :thumbsup: happy
And I do have a great sounding cowbell. Need more cowbell! laugh

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Wed 09/27/17 08:16 PM



Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.

Where did you come up with this? I do agree very observant and well said. :thumbsup: happy


I didn't come up with it. Just take a look around you. It's the state of the world.

Believe me I do. Agreed :thumbsup:

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Wed 09/27/17 10:45 PM

Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.


bologna

some who do this are called EXTREMISTS, if they all did it we would have been toast long ago. I have loved ones who are muslim and they believe or practice no such philosophy.

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Thu 09/28/17 08:42 AM
Where I come from we have a saying "If you can't speak the language get the F out of our country"

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Thu 09/28/17 08:54 AM

The Swiss federal commission against racism protect Muslim
And Jewish rights ( especially of immmigrants) to religious freedom . It is no different in the USA .. the right to religious freedom is also protected . This bill will never pass .. it is clearly discrimination against Muslims .waving

WE,The People will have the Last word on that!
If they want to build Mosques,let them get the Financing nationally,not from known subversive Salafist Governments and Groups!

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/28/17 09:22 AM


Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.


bologna

some who do this are called EXTREMISTS, if they all did it we would have been toast long ago. I have loved ones who are muslim and they believe or practice no such philosophy.
well good for them... what are they doing about the other 100's of millions who are extremists? If one a bad apple spoils the bunch, maybe the other apples need to step up...

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Thu 09/28/17 09:42 AM

Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.

Plus they have big beards! huh

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Thu 09/28/17 10:47 AM
laugh if this was the USA all hell wpuld break loose

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Thu 09/28/17 02:44 PM


Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.

Where did you come up with this? I do agree very observant and well said. :thumbsup: happy
And I do have a great sounding cowbell. Need more cowbell! laugh


laugh

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Thu 09/28/17 02:52 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 09/28/17 02:53 PM

Bill prohibiting foreign financing of Swiss mosques and requires preaching in national language passes lower house

RT
Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:09 UTC
© Fabrice Coffrini / AFP
Minaret of Geneva mosque in the neighbourhood of Le Petit-Saconnex Geneva.
Mosques in Switzerland should be prohibited from receiving financing from abroad and imams should be required to preach in a Swiss national language, the country's lower house of parliament has decided.

MPs voted 94 to 89 in favor of a bill proposed by the member of the Lega dei Ticinesi party, which aims to make rules for mosques in Switzerland stricter, the local media outlet Neue Zuercher Zeitung reports.

The legislation stipulates that mosques would be forbidden from receiving foreign money.

They would also have to declare where their financial backing comes from and for what purpose their money would be used.

Imams would also be required to preach in the language of the area where the mosque is based.

That language would be one of Switzerland's official languages - German, French, Italian, or Romansch.

However, the bill - which will now be passed onto the Swiss Senate for further debate - is not backed by the country's federal government, which believes it discriminates against Muslims by placing them under suspicion, and thus fuels the arguments of extremists.

Bern is also against the language requirement, believing that freedom of language applies to people of all religions.

The Wednesday vote isn't the first time Switzerland's lower house has moved to tighten the country's laws when it comes to Muslims.

One year ago, it narrowly passed a bill to implement a ban on the Islamic face veil and other coverings. However, that move was later rejected by the Senate.

Swiss mosques have recently been at the center of a number of police operations over alleged support for radical Islam.

An Ethiopian imam from a mosque in Winterthur was charged with inciting violence after he urged his followers to kill non-practicing Muslims.

Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."

The Swiss media revealed that the Libyan cleric had received around 600,000 Swiss francs ($620,000) in social benefits from the Swiss government over the last 13 years, but that it wasn't enough to soften his stance towards "infidels."

Senate and Lower House ARE the Federal Government!
If they pass the Bill,the Federal Council can't do a thing about it,except calling a National referendum,and so could anyone,once they can get 100'000 Signatures together within a certain time!
Then it will have to be voted on nationally by the people!

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Thu 09/28/17 02:56 PM
I think Switzerland is suffering from the immigration issue, I went through last year and they were everywhere. . they come up from Italy. Good on the Swiss if it helps there country.
Plus, they make a wicked knife!

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Fri 09/29/17 12:42 AM




Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.


bologna

some who do this are called EXTREMISTS, if they all did it we would have been toast long ago. I have loved ones who are muslim and they believe or practice no such philosophy.
well good for them... what are they doing about the other 100's of millions who are extremists? If one a bad apple spoils the bunch, maybe the other apples need to step up...


Exactly. Silence from the majority signifies tacit agreement with the minority, or the extremists in this case. The majority of Muslims are not condemning the extremist actions. What does that tell you? They are in silent agreement with them. Wake up! Naïveté is showing again.

Agree. But also silence from the majority of all other faiths because they are self obsessed with what they can get out of everything and have no interest in the fate of others as they just assume someone else will sort it.
Just what we are seeing played out in certain areas of the world!

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Fri 09/29/17 09:45 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 09/29/17 09:48 AM





Another imam in the town of Biel also found himself in hot water over calls to kill "Jews, Christians, Hindus, Russians and the Shiite [branch of Islam]" as well as other "enemies of Islam."


It's in their dogma. They teach this to the younger generations. They preach genocide of anyone who is not a Muslim or a practicing Muslim. The caliphate or Muslim domination of the world preaches this ideology. They are the enemy of the world. They already started practicing domination by overrunning Europe, its laws, and its citizens.


bologna

some who do this are called EXTREMISTS, if they all did it we would have been toast long ago. I have loved ones who are muslim and they believe or practice no such philosophy.
well good for them... what are they doing about the other 100's of millions who are extremists? If one a bad apple spoils the bunch, maybe the other apples need to step up...


Exactly. Silence from the majority signifies tacit agreement with the minority, or the extremists in this case. The majority of Muslims are not condemning the extremist actions. What does that tell you? They are in silent agreement with them. Wake up! Naïveté is showing again.

Agree. But also silence from the majority of all other faiths because they are self obsessed with what they can get out of everything and have no interest in the fate of others as they just assume someone else will sort it.
Just what we are seeing played out in certain areas of the world!
reminds of someone who helps a lion, thinking it won't eat them for it.... guess again, just because someone thinks muslims are friends is in for a big surprise when the muslims don't need the democrats anymore...

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Fri 09/29/17 11:23 AM
Muslims will always choose their religion over your life. Infidel!

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Sat 09/30/17 02:56 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 09/30/17 02:57 AM
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