Topic: 5 ways whites are discriminated against
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Mon 10/30/17 01:05 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Mon 10/30/17 01:10 PM

I'm not prejudiced at all but I will say this much young white people are being discriminated against... good luck to a young white person getting a job at a Tim Horton's donut shop.. nothing but Filipino workers there... that goes the same for any other low paying job... big corporations are squeezing out the higher demanding wage White people have come to expect... and are opting to replace.. the white Workforce with the lower-paid... slightly Brown Workforce... can't really blame them though Filipinos work hard and don't complain... for less money probably...

Of course they brainwashed the Whitey..
Telling them no no your kids don't want these low paying jobs.. they need to focus on going to school getting corporate jobs...

Sure but how can they afford to go to school if they can no longer get a job at night working in your Tim Hortons or your grocery stores..... because you gave all those jobs a way to the slightly brown people from overseas...hmmmm... oh I know Mom and Dad should take out another mortgage on the house lining the big Banks Pockets even more... tricky rabbit Trix are for kids... it's truly sad how everything ties into making profit
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There are many ways that prejudice comes to all ... in life somehow ... 5 examples don't make either go away ... I can give life experiences... of what I have seen... and others have said ... think about this real life ... oh I know Mom and Dad should take out another mortgage on the house lining the big Banks Pockets even more... tricky rabbit Trix are for kids... it's truly sad how everything ties into making profit... very true ... same with house loans look what they did ... when it crashed .. . so much all becouse of profit ... really just our time of pitting people against each other here in America even more ... sad to say ...

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Mon 10/30/17 01:13 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 10/30/17 01:17 PM

Different countries have different histories, which are grounded in different types of divisions.

In the UK, for instance, people would probably discuss more their concern for the Royals or, in Scottland, they may not be fond of the english.

In Japan, which is highly monolithic, ethnic diversity is probably not thought much of because there is next to none of it.

So, I think it is just that different histories cause different nations to have different concerns and political/social divisions or issues

A little bit, but 'discussion 'amongst people is very class orientated imo,
Wealthy people talk about the financial index, business and occasionally politics where as the lower classes would be more concerned with how much shopping costs and can they pay the rent. I think upper class people are more out of touch with the real world.
Also, the Royals are a great asset imo, but ask a leftie and they'll knock you down!
Always criticising and complaints about the cost

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Mon 10/30/17 01:43 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/30/17 01:45 PM
My Welsh ex shared horror stories bout the take over of Wales by the English. He was no fan of them at all. Same with Ms. Thatcher and the mining industry there, since his father was a miner.

As is implied in the saying "When Lions write history, only then will hunters cease to be heroes."

Experience and history shape perception. different 'sides' of those experiences shape different perceptions.

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Mon 10/30/17 01:58 PM







people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...





And you consider failing a test, (a standard test given to candidates regardless of their color).. a valid grievance?

Well, if its and consolation ( and it is to me) I am told those who " grievance" their way to the status of Chief do not have the respect of the men they command. And never will.

the race card can't buy respect.






as per my quotes, my post is not responding to anything about a firefighters test,, but about the quote I included regarding 'working hard'


Of course you are not responding to the firefighter statement, because that would go against your agenda.

The white firefighters WERE certainly discriminated upon (The whites who failed the test had to wait a few years and retake it and the whites who passed the test had all of their hard work and study.. cheapened) and the black candidates who failed were given a free pass..just because of their skin color... and they jumped at it.. took the easy way.. just flipped out the race card

Fact

And that MS is.. discrimination.


did only white firefighters have to retake the test, and did only black firefighters get a 'pass'?

or was a test thrown out for all who took it and were all able to retake it?



??? read the history on it.

The people who sued.. were black and Hispanic... only black and Hispanic..

Yes. ONLY black and Hispanic got a pass..

your second paragraph makes no sense.

what part of blacks and Hispanics suing because they failed a test did you not understand. If you fail the test then EVERYONE who failed the first time has the right to take it when it comes back out in 2 years.

The blacks and Hispanics who sued did not want to do that.. they didn't want to study harder, get more experience.. and take the test again so they sued stating that the test was biased...unfair to them.. because they were a minority. And somehow because of their skin color they should get more credit then the white guys who studied hard and passed. And not all white guys passed.. not by a long shot.

Was there some blacks and Hispanics who passed the test.. yes there was. And they earned the rank. Also proving that the test was not biased at all.

It is a very hard test and only the best suited should pass.. regardless of color.

Because all that PC bullsh*t, means little to you when you are trapped in a fire.. and you are hoping that chief out there calling the shots knows what he is doing.

they played the race card MS... not the first time and won't be the last. Easy to see.. except for those with only one color in their crayon box.








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Mon 10/30/17 02:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/30/17 02:11 PM








people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...





And you consider failing a test, (a standard test given to candidates regardless of their color).. a valid grievance?

Well, if its and consolation ( and it is to me) I am told those who " grievance" their way to the status of Chief do not have the respect of the men they command. And never will.

the race card can't buy respect.






as per my quotes, my post is not responding to anything about a firefighters test,, but about the quote I included regarding 'working hard'


Of course you are not responding to the firefighter statement, because that would go against your agenda.

The white firefighters WERE certainly discriminated upon (The whites who failed the test had to wait a few years and retake it and the whites who passed the test had all of their hard work and study.. cheapened) and the black candidates who failed were given a free pass..just because of their skin color... and they jumped at it.. took the easy way.. just flipped out the race card

Fact

And that MS is.. discrimination.


did only white firefighters have to retake the test, and did only black firefighters get a 'pass'?

or was a test thrown out for all who took it and were all able to retake it?



??? read the history on it.

The people who sued.. were black and Hispanic... only black and Hispanic..

Yes. ONLY black and Hispanic got a pass..

your second paragraph makes no sense.

what part of blacks and Hispanics suing because they failed a test did you not understand. If you fail the test then EVERYONE who failed the first time has the right to take it when it comes back out in 2 years.

The blacks and Hispanics who sued did not want to do that.. they didn't want to study harder, get more experience.. and take the test again so they sued stating that the test was biased...unfair to them.. because they were a minority. And somehow because of their skin color they should get more credit then the white guys who studied hard and passed. And not all white guys passed.. not by a long shot.

Was there some blacks and Hispanics who passed the test.. yes there was. And they earned the rank. Also proving that the test was not biased at all.

It is a very hard test and only the best suited should pass.. regardless of color.

Because all that PC bullsh*t, means little to you when you are trapped in a fire.. and you are hoping that chief out there calling the shots knows what he is doing.

they played the race card MS... not the first time and won't be the last. Easy to see.. except for those with only one color in their crayon box.










the assessment sounds fishy. I doubt that if they deemed the test racist, they still allowed the blacks who took it to receive credit. It is more likely that ALL applicants who took it did not get credit for it.

Other than that,

I don't know the case. I wont comment on second hand information. If discrimination is shown, than the 'race card' is relevant. Some authority apparently thought it was.

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Mon 10/30/17 02:14 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 10/30/17 02:15 PM

My Welsh ex shared horror stories bout the take over of Wales by the English. He was no fan of them at all. Same with Ms. Thatcher and the mining industry there, since his father was a miner.

As is implied in the saying "When Lions write history, only then will hunters cease to be heroes."

Experience and history shape perception. different 'sides' of those experiences shape different perceptions.

What year did the english take over Wales?
Miners :the coal industry was holding the country to ransom, it was getting to expensive to mine. and you never hear the lefties talk about Harold Wilson (labour party left )who got rid of 3 times more miners!
You cannot let unions run the country.
I've had this with you before, if you can buy 1 ton of coal for x then who would buy it for y at 3 times the price?
People and the country couldn't afford it!
The Welsh are anti everything, always the under dogs in there eyes.
Thatcher was of the toughest straight talking leaders we have had, she never lied and stuck to her belief's.
You can not run a country on borrowing, she gave people the chance to work!
Don't talk about horror stories!
Look out of your window!

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/30/17 02:15 PM
different perspectives ...

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Mon 10/30/17 02:18 PM
That is rubbish, exactly what someone else was saying, minority rule!
The problem is that the lion's won't integrate! Always poor lion's, take take take and still not satisfied

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Mon 10/30/17 02:19 PM

different perspectives ...

when did we take Wales?

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/30/17 02:33 PM

That is rubbish, exactly what someone else was saying, minority rule!
The problem is that the lion's won't integrate! Always poor lion's, take take take and still not satisfied


yes, when integrate means our way or else, sometimes others want to keep their own ways ,, they dont appreciate pressure or force used to make them leave behind their history or customs, although others may feel that it works 'better' for them

different sides, different perspectives

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Mon 10/30/17 02:36 PM


different perspectives ...

when did we take Wales?



He didn't give me a full on history lesson. He has resided there sixty odd years, I was there but one.

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Mon 10/30/17 02:41 PM
Integration is usually by a minority into a majority!
Life has rules for everyone to follow so as to keep a stable would, much as possible anyway, immigrants coming from outside a system should fit in and follow the standards of the host country.
It's the same old story, how far do you go back, I'm still pretty cross with the vikings grumble

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/30/17 02:50 PM
some prefer a compromise between integrating one completely into another and coexisting beside each other as is ...

whichever the preference, changes the perception

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Mon 10/30/17 06:49 PM

I did my graduation from new zealand. My class fellows were from USA, Iceland, Germany, singapore all around the world... I eat sleep and spend time with them. I seriously never hear, feel anything like that. No one ever talk on this topic. People were beautiful and amazing. Everyone respect each other. I spend time at their homes. But never ever hear anything like that. Inshort, Its only happen in USA? Why!


probably because there's not a bunch of liberals in NZ that stir the pot everyday...

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Tue 10/31/17 04:28 PM









people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...





And you consider failing a test, (a standard test given to candidates regardless of their color).. a valid grievance?

Well, if its and consolation ( and it is to me) I am told those who " grievance" their way to the status of Chief do not have the respect of the men they command. And never will.

the race card can't buy respect.






as per my quotes, my post is not responding to anything about a firefighters test,, but about the quote I included regarding 'working hard'


Of course you are not responding to the firefighter statement, because that would go against your agenda.

The white firefighters WERE certainly discriminated upon (The whites who failed the test had to wait a few years and retake it and the whites who passed the test had all of their hard work and study.. cheapened) and the black candidates who failed were given a free pass..just because of their skin color... and they jumped at it.. took the easy way.. just flipped out the race card

Fact

And that MS is.. discrimination.


did only white firefighters have to retake the test, and did only black firefighters get a 'pass'?

or was a test thrown out for all who took it and were all able to retake it?



??? read the history on it.

The people who sued.. were black and Hispanic... only black and Hispanic..

Yes. ONLY black and Hispanic got a pass..

your second paragraph makes no sense.

what part of blacks and Hispanics suing because they failed a test did you not understand. If you fail the test then EVERYONE who failed the first time has the right to take it when it comes back out in 2 years.

The blacks and Hispanics who sued did not want to do that.. they didn't want to study harder, get more experience.. and take the test again so they sued stating that the test was biased...unfair to them.. because they were a minority. And somehow because of their skin color they should get more credit then the white guys who studied hard and passed. And not all white guys passed.. not by a long shot.

Was there some blacks and Hispanics who passed the test.. yes there was. And they earned the rank. Also proving that the test was not biased at all.

It is a very hard test and only the best suited should pass.. regardless of color.

Because all that PC bullsh*t, means little to you when you are trapped in a fire.. and you are hoping that chief out there calling the shots knows what he is doing.

they played the race card MS... not the first time and won't be the last. Easy to see.. except for those with only one color in their crayon box.










the assessment sounds fishy. I doubt that if they deemed the test racist, they still allowed the blacks who took it to receive credit. It is more likely that ALL applicants who took it did not get credit for it.

Other than that,

I don't know the case. I wont comment on second hand information. If discrimination is shown, than the 'race card' is relevant. Some authority apparently thought it was.



Lol.. try doing your homework on the subject. as you speak of discrimination all the time.. here is a classic case

but because it is the whites who were discriminated upon.. it is fishy Lol...:)

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Tue 10/31/17 06:24 PM







people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...



Where's my violin?:cry:


my thoughts about the title of the entire thread


You love this kind of thread laugh


I love sharing perceptions and opinions, I would gather anyone posting here must.flowerforyou

I don't KNOW about LOVE, but I sure do like knowing what I'm up against. Do you think the oppression will ever stop?

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Tue 10/31/17 06:25 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/31/17 06:30 PM










people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...





And you consider failing a test, (a standard test given to candidates regardless of their color).. a valid grievance?

Well, if its and consolation ( and it is to me) I am told those who " grievance" their way to the status of Chief do not have the respect of the men they command. And never will.

the race card can't buy respect.






as per my quotes, my post is not responding to anything about a firefighters test,, but about the quote I included regarding 'working hard'


Of course you are not responding to the firefighter statement, because that would go against your agenda.

The white firefighters WERE certainly discriminated upon (The whites who failed the test had to wait a few years and retake it and the whites who passed the test had all of their hard work and study.. cheapened) and the black candidates who failed were given a free pass..just because of their skin color... and they jumped at it.. took the easy way.. just flipped out the race card

Fact

And that MS is.. discrimination.


did only white firefighters have to retake the test, and did only black firefighters get a 'pass'?

or was a test thrown out for all who took it and were all able to retake it?



??? read the history on it.

The people who sued.. were black and Hispanic... only black and Hispanic..

Yes. ONLY black and Hispanic got a pass..

your second paragraph makes no sense.

what part of blacks and Hispanics suing because they failed a test did you not understand. If you fail the test then EVERYONE who failed the first time has the right to take it when it comes back out in 2 years.

The blacks and Hispanics who sued did not want to do that.. they didn't want to study harder, get more experience.. and take the test again so they sued stating that the test was biased...unfair to them.. because they were a minority. And somehow because of their skin color they should get more credit then the white guys who studied hard and passed. And not all white guys passed.. not by a long shot.

Was there some blacks and Hispanics who passed the test.. yes there was. And they earned the rank. Also proving that the test was not biased at all.

It is a very hard test and only the best suited should pass.. regardless of color.

Because all that PC bullsh*t, means little to you when you are trapped in a fire.. and you are hoping that chief out there calling the shots knows what he is doing.

they played the race card MS... not the first time and won't be the last. Easy to see.. except for those with only one color in their crayon box.










the assessment sounds fishy. I doubt that if they deemed the test racist, they still allowed the blacks who took it to receive credit. It is more likely that ALL applicants who took it did not get credit for it.

Other than that,

I don't know the case. I wont comment on second hand information. If discrimination is shown, than the 'race card' is relevant. Some authority apparently thought it was.



Lol.. try doing your homework on the subject. as you speak of discrimination all the time.. here is a classic case

but because it is the whites who were discriminated upon.. it is fishy Lol...:)


no my friend, (although I do often interject, when OTHERS bring it up or imply racial correlations perceptions, another point of view based on living as a BLACK person)

I do not speak of discrimination all the time
it may be interesting to note that as one of few BLACK posters here, I rarely if EVERY create a thread centering about race or racial matter,

yet

when others who are not of my persuasion do just that, my very interjection of my own perception somehow becomes my 'agenda' or what I 'always' do

just interesting to note (but probably not to those who make the allegations or do the accusing)

anyways ....

what was fishy was the implication that only the whites were made to retake the test or have their results discounted

the discrimination case, had details that are not included here, so I do not know what about the test may have flagged as discriminatory,, a personality assessment? or some other subjective standard not necessarily associated with the job? IT could be many things, just that it was a test tells me nothing about why the decision was made.


my perception is really just the flip side of those who assume a minority making a claim of discrimination is merely using a 'race' card

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/31/17 06:35 PM








people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?



if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...



Where's my violin?:cry:


my thoughts about the title of the entire thread


You love this kind of thread laugh


I love sharing perceptions and opinions, I would gather anyone posting here must.flowerforyou

I don't KNOW about LOVE, but I sure do like knowing what I'm up against. Do you think the oppression will ever stop?


Nope,

its a totem pole where money dictates social status and social status dictates those at the top keep the top spot, the power, and the authority by ensuring those at the bottom never do

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Wed 11/01/17 08:41 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 11/01/17 08:44 AM









people focus on surviving and getting through their lives, they also have grievances ... there is no evidence that they therefore can't focus on anything but their grievance, racial or otherwise ...


and you think it's not a problem? instead of minorities trying harder and studying more, it's easier to play a race card just to beat the white man who did study and learn?

if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...



Where's my violin?:cry:


my thoughts about the title of the entire thread


You love this kind of thread laugh


I love sharing perceptions and opinions, I would gather anyone posting here must.flowerforyou

I don't KNOW about LOVE, but I sure do like knowing what I'm up against. Do you think the oppression will ever stop?


Nope,

its a totem pole where money dictates social status and social status dictates those at the top keep the top spot, the power, and the authority by ensuring those at the bottom never do

and that's something that hasn't changed since Clinton was prez


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Wed 11/01/17 09:14 AM
Edited by no1phD on Wed 11/01/17 09:15 AM
And as usual the powers-that-be..
Have the masses quarreling with each other... keep there attention off the real issue.... just dangle shiny things in front of them... make them feel like enough is never enough
... make them feel like they have more rights than the other person...
Even pit their gods against each other..

Just as long as the powers-that-be keep you looking somewhere else rather than squarely at them.... have you blaming each other for the mess the world is in....

Bah Bah Black Sheep... but really we're all sheep at the end of the day .... heads down munching away on the grass... and not noticing what the powers-that-be are feeding us ....is not grass
But the same old deception... misdirection... hear look closely what ball is the hand in.....lol