I can't and won't vote for a guy who would let corporations run even more rampant than they are right now in destroying the American workforce, and creating class warfare.

While his points about Iraq are right, his views on everything else are completely absurd. While the tax system does need to be overhauled, simply eliminating the IRS doesn't solve the problem.

the irs is an unconstitutional structure designed to steal

the money of the american citizen

no one else pays income tax for at least 7 years

that is why a lot of businesses change every few years

the constitution says the federal govt

is to be supported by tariffs and excise taxes

so the irs is an illegal part of the govt

where they get you is when you sign the paper

opening your bank account it volunteers you to

agree to the rules of the irs

Ummm...the last I checked, the 16th Amendment referred to taxing on income, so it can't be considered unconstitutional.

While I don't know exactly why no one else would pay for 7 years (if that's an accurate figure), my educated guess would be that would be because they pay such outrageous taxes on everything else.

If you eliminate the income tax, the government will just get you via a sales tax, which is far more destructive to the economy than an income tax.

The IRS is not an illegal part of the government. The IRS evolved from the Commissioner of Internal Revenue position in 1862 or 1863. If the IRS is illegal, then so is every other administrative agency.

a sales tax would tax fairly

if you set it up properly

and put it on luxury items

granted it is known ya need a car
in most ares of the states

but you do not need a lexus or a lincoln or a caddy

a sales tax would tax those

that have money to spend

and would not hurt those that do not

Big business is not the problem in america. The problem arises when government tries to curtail big business. I used to be under the same impression, but as I have taken college classes I have come to realize that this is not the case. The only thing that is creating class warfare is the media. Anyone in this country can get a well paying job if they are willing to work for it.

Too radical for me

Now duncan I am american but what robin says covers it as far as ron paul.

Dragoness what do you mean by radical?

Yes, let us be punitive to those that are successful.
Is it jealousy?
Who gives anyone the right to decide what someone needs?
Sounds like you would prefer communism or socialism.
God forbid someone should be successful and be able to enjoy thier success.
Get over it.

If Ron Paul would just change his position on foreign policy, then he would be a viable candidate in my mind. We already tried isolationism, it didn't work. That policy ended with Pearl Harbor. The stance of so many now scares the heck out of me. If we are responsible for 9/11 (like so many claim), then there is almost no action that a foreign agent could take which would justify war. Every attack would be loudly proclaimed to be "our fault", so no retaliation would be acceptable to the American people. Scary thinking and a complete lack of perspective.

i do not understand how you came to that conclusion about the workforce

he wants to reestablish import tariffs

thus removing the advantage of moving jobs overseas to enslave the work force of unregulated work force

the united states has a population that has become

lax and complacent with what they have been given

by the death of and sacrifice of many of its veterans

and do not realize if what they have is not maintained

it will soon be gone

and it is disappearing one liberty at a time

Sweatshops are good for the US and for those who work in sweat shops. This is an undeniable fact. 12-14 hours in the sun or 12-14 hours indoors. 12-14 hours in the pouring rain or 12-14 hours indoors. Sweatshops pay around 5x the average salary in Vietnam. Five times. A child in a 3rd world country has to work or they don't eat. It's sad, but it's a fact of life. Those children would rather do 12 hours in a sweatshop than be forced to eat out of garbage cans or forced into prostitution. The US tendency to work to close sweatshops is causing untold misery throughout the 3rd world. Those people depend on sweatshops to survive. As their economy grows, the jobs will improve and eventually, they will no longer have sweatshops. That will be a great day, but until then, closing sweatshops simply hurts those we are trying to help.

Here is a great article that shows how much those who work in sweatshops love them.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000924mag-sweatshops.html

9 hours a day X 6 days a week INDOORS is better than 12-14 hours a day x 7 days a week OUTDOORS. Plus the pay is great. Sweatshop workers are the middle to upper middle class in many poor countries.

as bad as this sounds

if the united states does not take care of its self first

it will not be in a position to help anyone

we need to get jobs back into the united states and paul

is going to try to do that

sorry spider but it is not this countries job to fix the world

just look at the worlds response to

trying to fix iraq

it is a world issue

and if no place else can help then

this country can not do it alone

Actually the isolationism you are referring to of the 30's and 40's was more of a populist/people orientated doctrine. FDR and the US government couldn't be called isolationist by any stretch of the term. Pearl Harbor itself was the result of US governmental agitation in the Pacific prior to WWII. There are entire volumes written on the subject. Not that I condone any attack which was not precipitated by an open declaration of war (not the underhanded type of 'warning' given to DC just moments before attack) or the death of US servicemen and women. Before anyone misinterprets me, the U.S. WAS morally correct in retaliation against Japan or any other attacking nation. I only want to make it clear that the U.S. was by no means isolationist in foreign policy.

Look at the US governments Lend Lease policy that was taking place before the United States was actually at war, for example. The one which made the U.S. neutral in name only. The only reason Germany didn't declare war in retaliation for this was that she was already tied up in war on the European continent and really didn't need to have another world power fighting her (especially an industrial giant such as the U.S.).

Germany only declared war after Pearl Harbor, because the Japanese promised to invade the Eastern USSR in return. This would have taken enormous pressure of the Germans, possibly caused Soviet capitalization, and allowed the Krauts to have their Festung Europa which would have been f*ck-all difficult for either the Tommies or us Americans to contest (not to mention all the oil in the Caucuses). All in all an offer they couldn't sanely refuse.

Of course Japanese keeping with their ancient and highly reputed reputation of being an honorable people bailed on the deal, leaving Germany with another enemy and nothing really to show for it.

Despite the backing of well reputed American heroes such as Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford, Isolationism was never a governmental policy of the U.S.

Fast forward to today. 9/11 WAS our fault, or more appropriately the fault of our governmental policy of supporting Israel. That doesn't mean we don't have any right to retaliate. Like I stated with Pearl Harbor, we have every right and every duty to do so. But you can't go around acting like they did this for no apparent reason or because they hate our freedoms and continue doing the same old s**t without expecting the same old s**t in return.

Also you can't use their attack to justify an attack on a completely different opponent (Iraq).

Ron Paul, I've been told, is interested in cutting funding to Israel which makes perfect sense.

1. America was meant to be a sovereign nation and owes it to no other country to take care of them. How many of you so-called patriots have read George Washington's farewell address? Sorry, but I do believe in putting America's interests above any other nation's.

2. They are a first world nation, with one of the most professional militaries in the world and can take care of themselves. Yea they are the most hated country in the middle east, but gee ever think that it may be their fault?

3. Our support of them breeds world-wide resentment of us as a nation. This would all be fine if we were actually justified in supporting them, but go back and read the above points.

As for the current cluster-f*ck in Iraq... why are we policing someone else's civil war? They don't want us there and it's none of our business.

get rid of federal agencys? sounds like some of the pseudo communism papers ive written ill check this guy out

Unemployement is low. Salaries are high. There is nothing wrong with our economy. Bringing jobs back here will result in higher prices, which will hurt everyone and cause loss of jobs.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.



We need an ally in the Middle East.



No, I don't think it is their fault. They were attacked the very DAY the UN allowed them to become a nation. That is due to rampant Jew hate in the Middle East. They are constantly treatened with destruction by their neighbors...any surprise that they are defensive? They are under constant bombardment from Lebanon and Palistine...any surprise that they sometimes retaliate?



Too freaking bad. They have every right to exist. That land was taken from the Israelites 2000 years ago. That land was taken from the Christians 1000 years ago. That land was very sparcly inhabited 100 years ago. Jews started buying the land from the owners 100 years ago. 60 years ago, the UN declared Israel a nation. They have been at war every day since then. History, not propoganda.

unemployment is low because

once your benefits expire

you are no longer on the stats

if the price goes up it goes up

more people would be working

thus more could afford the price hike

yer sounding a bit self serving