oooo, I know the answer, pick me, pick me...

It does not. To obey God is to choose, with your free will, to do God's will.



It's assumed that God has power over his creation. It goes without saying. If you have a child, do you not have power over that child?



No one gives up their free will. They simply choose, with their free will, to do the Father's will.



Yes, there absolutely can be.



There is the free will to obey. Yes. You can choose it or un-choose it at any time. That's the nature of free will.



You are confusing religions with God.

Clever enough to know when to use to, too, and two. I take it you don't know any god jokes.—IM

Using proper grammar doesn't make one clever.
Also in my defense the word to and too is one of the most misused word.

The word two was never in question so I guess you threw that in there for extra measure with no actual basis.

Congratulations!

Of course, you will never see the evidence because one would then have to admit that the version they are using is also based on manuscripts that were subject to corruption, scholarship by individuals who had varying degrees of competence, and translations which, by using linguistic studies, try to convey the clearest sense of the original meaning in modern-day language.

Of the hundreds of versions that exist, the CLV adheres most closely to the oldest Greek translations (Codices Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus) cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordant_Version which, by the way, Jerome most likely had access to while translating the Gospels to Latin in the 6th century.

To call it lying and corrupt is to disrespect every scholar that ever chose to dedicate his/her life to Biblical studies. All of them rely on one or more particular versions. Such insults are clearly an example of an ignorance of personal scholarship resulting in boorish behavior. In effect, an attempt to weaponize a viewpoint which, at the very least, should be ignored.—IM

Quite dramatic of an opinion .

Then again, you are the one that says there are no absolutes.

Did you mean to say, That's quite a dramatic opinion?

And, yes, in a previous post where I was chatting with Reserve Corp, I did say that. Context matters.—IM

You apparently didn't pick up on my humor.
I typed it in that manner just for you .
Yes context matters .

Oh, did I miss a smiley face?

Only you can answer that.

I'm not but Blind Faith Believers do all the time.

So I have free will as long as I freely adopt and obey the same things you choose to believe. If I use my free will to choose my own beliefs, I will burn in hell or fire and damnation.
Okay, got it.

Having raised four children of my own I understand the need for obedience in a child. I understand the need to restrict free will of a child.
This worked until my children experienced enough about life to make their own decisions about things. At that time, I realized that they have their own free will and need to choose their own paths.
I also realized that what I thought was the right path or the wrong path was not as important to them as what right or wrong paths they choose. I can merely advise them in their choices.
I give them free will to make their own path without my punishments or rewards for obeying me. I love them no matter the path they choose.

Good grief, I never said that.



I don't think you "got it" at all. I have nothing to do with Hell. I don't believe in Hell (which should be capitalized, imo). You're apparently making a lot of assumptions.



I don't understand your point. You too are now at the point where you can make your own decisions about things. You have free will. Where's the beef? God never restricts anyone's free will. You may have done that with your children, but God doesn't do that with His children. Free will is a free gift from God.



So? The beef? Where is it? What's the problem?



God does not "punish" anyone. That's just what some churches say. Are you angry with them? Can you separate that from being angry with God?

Thank you.

are you just trying to confuse things here, or do you really not know who "they" are? One of the main reasons I hate talking to religious people, because of responces like this...

I wasn't refering to the trinity, I was referring to all religions...trinity is just a stupid way man trys to make sense of his understanding of what we think the God is..

Sir, do you pray? I’ve read the Bible several times (the old and the New Testament), plus other books as well and for some reason I don’t believe in it. I think we pray and give thanks because our parents thought us too.

so...did God tell someone to edit hell out of the bible? I was taught the bible is the word of god, so did God change its mind or what? How does that work? Who does God tell to change the bible? Was it you, the pope or little Jimmy? If the bible is the word of god, how do they justify changing it?

imo, I think everyone prays to what they think is God, I don't believe anything the bible says, but sometimes I find myself trying to talk to it...


And why you calling me sir?...

so...did God tell someone to edit hell out of the bible? I was taught the bible is the word of god, so did God change its mind or what? How does that work? Who does God tell to change the bible? Was it you, the pope or little Jimmy? If the bible is the word of god, how do they justify changing it?







your answer would be, NO!!

and the reason why is because all of the terminology for "hell" is either a reference to the grave humans are buried in, or the place where fallen angels are kept [the pit - the abyss - tartus].

It is called respect...