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Edited by
shovelheaddave
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in this modern age of advanced technology,it seems like everything that is a part of our lives is now about to be able to be controlled wirelessly with our smartphones....
we can open our door locks on our house,or our cars wirelessly with our phones.... we can access our appliances,like air conditioning/heaters,our lights,our refrigerators,our dishwashers,our baby monitors,and even our home security systems,complete with access to cameras mounted in our homes so that we can see everything that goes on from a remote location.... we have things like ONGARD in our cars that can listen to you/your conversations,and report its exact location at all times to anybody that has access to this system.... we also have computerized home assistants,like ALEXA,who are constantly listening,and monitoring everything that is said or going on in the supposed privacy of our homes at all times,and communicating that with outside parties,and companies.... we also have 'smart' TVs,that can do the same thing,and it has gotten almost impossible to even buy a new TV that isnt a 'smart' TV,with these capabilities. do you REALLY think that all of this new technology is REALLY a good idea??? because if WE can use this technology to access our 'smart' devices,so can OTHER PEOPLE!! in prior years,it has been widely reported that our baby monitors have been hacked,and have been used to spy on,and even talk to our children when they are alone... it has been recently reported that ALEXA has been making recordings of our private conversations,and sending them to other people,and in a few instances,police departments have even gotten search warrents to listen to the things that devices like ALEXA,who are listening to everything,at all times have recorded,and saved in its memory to be used in police investigations. not to mention that NOBODY is safe from being hacked!!!! the FBI has been hacked... the CIA has been hacked.... the NSA has been hacked.... so,if someone was inclined to do so,they could EASILY hack into our smart devices,and search for information that could be used to harm us,steal from us,or use against us. and,there ARE people who,for whatever reason, are so inclined to do so. including our own government,who could have special software installed in these devices to allow them to access them by the companies,and legally force them not to ever tell us about it with legislation like 'the patriot act',like they did with all of the cell phone companies so that they could get access to the information that it was revealed that the NSA has been secretly collecting from our phones,and phone calls that we make. SO,do you think that we should give up our privacy,and security by letting the corporations who have their own agendas,force us,or coerce us to have these devices in our lives? WOULD YOU personally use these devices that make us give up so much of our privacy,and security,just for the ease of not having to get up to flip a switch,or because we have been sold on the idea that having the very latest technology,even if it makes us give up our privacy,and security,is the only way to live our lives? What are your thoughts? |
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Usually, I would say, without modern technology, it would be very hard for me, to stay in contact with my family in Germany, or with friends from all over the globe.
But kids, sometimes younger than 10, having all them poxy I Phones, and them not being able to spell the easiest words, or add easy sums? That is the downside. Plus, they are sidelined by their peers, if they don't have the latest model 
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I have a friend who has all that. It alerts his phone if the door opens and he has cameras. I was staying at his house to sign for a package he knew exactly when I left. He called to ask where I'm going. I don't think I could live in a house like that knowing someone is tracking my every move.
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I have a friend who has all that. It alerts his phone if the door opens and he has cameras. I was staying at his house to sign for a package he knew exactly when I left. He called to ask where I'm going. I don't think I could live in a house like that knowing someone is tracking my every move. Is he/she still your friend, mind me asking? 
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No, he got mad at me for a stupid reason. I think he is just going through some kind of change of life.
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No, he got mad at me for a stupid reason. I think he is just going through some kind of change of life. It still doesn't give him the right to act like Big Brother. |
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Smart technology is great for industrial applications, but too intrusive in private lives, IMNSHO.
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do you REALLY think that all of this new technology is REALLY a good idea??? IMO no real such thing as a "good" idea. Just an idea. People attach the label of "good" as more of a social hierarchy tool. I mean someone came up with the idea that cooking meat is a good idea. Harvested fire for use. Then you get less food born pathogens killing people, shortening lives, cauterized wounds, a light in the darkness. Next thing you know we got flamethrowers, people burning each other alive, themselves in protest, man caused forest fires, burning down houses and theaters with dozens to hundreds of people inside all burned alive, fire department gangs, insurance companies, government in your pocket to pay for it all. No such thing as a "good" idea. Just ideas with consequences. No matter what idea anyone comes up with it's going to end up being used to try and control others (diminish individual freedom), extinguish life, or both, at some point. The only thing that protects anyone in the age of information with smart phones and social media and tracking information and data mining/phishing, etc., is a life that is relatively meaningless and not important enough for anyone to really pay attention to or care about, hiding among the herd of 7 billion people. ,do you think that we should give up our privacy, I don't think "we" really have a choice. Did you fill out paperwork to start a savings account before about 1993 before all this internet interconnectedness? Uh-oh, the bank put all their old forms into a database and uploaded it to their networked servers and Pete the IT guy just downloaded a bunch of Russian porn on his work computer before he left it in the car in the middle of a bad neighborhood. You've already given up your privacy. Now you're just being driven to fear how much by sensationalizing media reports. letting the corporations who have their own agendas,force us,or coerce us to have these devices in our lives? You kinda make it sound evil. We deal with "coercion" from pretty much the day we're born. "Open up the tunnel for the choo choo, here comes the num nums!" "If you clean your room I'll give you an allowance, or you can have a treat." "You need to learn to share, if you share your toys with Timmy, Timmy will be nicer, and maybe share his toys, or you may make a new friend." "Treat others as you would have them treat you. If they don't treat you well, then you can at least feel good about your own behavior." "Act towards the greater good and you're a good person." Social reciprocity. Giving something and getting something in return is the basis of capitalism as a system and human nature. We're coerced into that exchange from birth. Doesn't matter what society or culture. If not tangible benefits, intangible personal emotional benefits. Corporations focus on the tangible. Highlighting and a bias description of what you're getting, while downplaying what you have to give up. They do absolutely nothing different than people trying to find a date, get a job, or what politicians do. At best they have better methods of measurement. WOULD YOU personally use these devices that make us give up so much of our privacy,and security,just for the ease of not having to get up to flip a switch... Sure. Risk management should be in everyone's vocabulary. As long as I know or can identify the risks (i.e. they aren't being actively hidden from me, or lied about to me) and can mitigate the potential consequences. Other than that, the corporations and devices aren't "making" anyone do anything. It's mostly society, individual people, that is doing it as it adopts the use and you don't want to be left behind so you feel/have the need to pursue keeping up or ultimately being ostracized. |
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Edited by
shovelheaddave
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Tue 05/29/18 11:56 AM
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do you REALLY think that all of this new technology is REALLY a good idea??? IMO no real such thing as a "good" idea. Just an idea. People attach the label of "good" as more of a social hierarchy tool. I mean someone came up with the idea that cooking meat is a good idea. Harvested fire for use. Then you get less food born pathogens killing people, shortening lives, cauterized wounds, a light in the darkness. Next thing you know we got flamethrowers, people burning each other alive, themselves in protest, man caused forest fires, burning down houses and theaters with dozens to hundreds of people inside all burned alive, fire department gangs, insurance companies, government in your pocket to pay for it all. No such thing as a "good" idea. Just ideas with consequences. No matter what idea anyone comes up with it's going to end up being used to try and control others (diminish individual freedom), extinguish life, or both, at some point. The only thing that protects anyone in the age of information with smart phones and social media and tracking information and data mining/phishing, etc., is a life that is relatively meaningless and not important enough for anyone to really pay attention to or care about, hiding among the herd of 7 billion people. ,do you think that we should give up our privacy, I don't think "we" really have a choice. Did you fill out paperwork to start a savings account before about 1993 before all this internet interconnectedness? Uh-oh, the bank put all their old forms into a database and uploaded it to their networked servers and Pete the IT guy just downloaded a bunch of Russian porn on his work computer before he left it in the car in the middle of a bad neighborhood. You've already given up your privacy. Now you're just being driven to fear how much by sensationalizing media reports. letting the corporations who have their own agendas,force us,or coerce us to have these devices in our lives? You kinda make it sound evil. We deal with "coercion" from pretty much the day we're born. "Open up the tunnel for the choo choo, here comes the num nums!" "If you clean your room I'll give you an allowance, or you can have a treat." "You need to learn to share, if you share your toys with Timmy, Timmy will be nicer, and maybe share his toys, or you may make a new friend." "Treat others as you would have them treat you. If they don't treat you well, then you can at least feel good about your own behavior." "Act towards the greater good and you're a good person." Social reciprocity. Giving something and getting something in return is the basis of capitalism as a system and human nature. We're coerced into that exchange from birth. Doesn't matter what society or culture. If not tangible benefits, intangible personal emotional benefits. Corporations focus on the tangible. Highlighting and a bias description of what you're getting, while downplaying what you have to give up. They do absolutely nothing different than people trying to find a date, get a job, or what politicians do. At best they have better methods of measurement. WOULD YOU personally use these devices that make us give up so much of our privacy,and security,just for the ease of not having to get up to flip a switch... Sure. Risk management should be in everyone's vocabulary. As long as I know or can identify the risks (i.e. they aren't being actively hidden from me, or lied about to me) and can mitigate the potential consequences. Other than that, the corporations and devices aren't "making" anyone do anything. It's mostly society, individual people, that is doing it as it adopts the use and you don't want to be left behind so you feel/have the need to pursue keeping up or ultimately being ostracized. it seems to me that you are more interested in finding ways to split hairs and rationalizing it,instead of looking at it objectively!! cuz,YES there ARE such things as 'good ideas',and 'bad ideas'!!! it is a bad idea to jump off of a 100' cliff to get to the bottom faster,and it is a good idea to look both ways before you cross a busy street! the 'consequences' are what determines whether an idea is a good one,or a bad one! and,YES,we DO have a choice in whether or not we want to give up our privacy!! we might not be able to avoid giving it ALL up,but we DO have the choice in using things that give up MORE of it! by just lazily giving up,and rationalizing it as inevitable just plays into the hands of the people/corporations that are trying to make you give up your privacy,and makes their objectives easier for them,and worse for you. the fact that you say that we dont have a choice in giving up our privacy,but,yet,you dont have a profile picture posted to your profile sort of invalidates your argument!! your rationalization of 'my life is too meaningless for anybody to be interested in it' speaks more for your own self esteem,and the fact that you dont place any value on it,because i happen to believe that MY life is not meaningless! [especially not to ME!] it also evidentally has meaning,and value to all of the corporations that are spending millions of dollars to collect every single piece of information that they can about each and every one of us,for marketing purposes,and any OTHER purpose they might have for doing it,or else they wouldnt go to the trouble,and expense of doing it! and,there is also obviously a REASON why they make the 'terms of use' that everybody has to agree to so hard to read,and understand!! cuz,if people actually KNEW what they were giving up,and what was actually happening,then i am sure that at least SOME of them might not agree to it,and blindly join sites like facebook,that have made collecting people's private,and personal information into a multibillion dollar industry! but,i guess that SOME people just arent as easily coerced as others!! |
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Smart devices seem to be like people that claim they're smart....Not so much
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Yeah, I call mine a dumb phone often.
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i really miss the days when PEOPLE were smart,and PHONES were dumb!!!
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i really miss the days when PEOPLE were smart,and PHONES were dumb!!! yes but back then party lines could be an issue if you had a gabby neighbor |
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i really miss the days when PEOPLE were smart,and PHONES were dumb!!! yes but back then party lines could be an issue if you had a gabby neighbor lol we actually did have a party line when i was younger. we also only had to use the last 5 numbers of our local phone numbers to make a local call,too. i dont know if we need to go THAT far back,though! if we just went back far enough so that we had cordless phones in our houses,and one of those big old motorola flip phones that might have taken up most of your back pocket,but ALWAYS got a signal,and the battery NEVER went dead on you,that would be fine with me. 
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yep i miss the old micro tac or even the tiny star tac.
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Smart devices seem to be like people that claim they're smart....Not so much |
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personally if it wasn't the cheapest way to get a phone and my internet access, i would be down to an old flip phone
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Smart devices seem to be like people that claim they're smart....Not so much 
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i believe that we've made our own tyrant,cause it seems that we've become slaves to these smart devices,just take a teenager and leave him without a smart phone he'll turn to a smartphone junkie and he'll be like where is my phone,i need my phone.
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i believe that we've made our own tyrant,cause it seems that we've become slaves to these smart devices,just take a teenager and leave him without a smart phone he'll turn to a smartphone junkie and he'll be like where is my phone,i need my phone. i totally agree with that. todays children,and even the adults now no longer feel the need to actually learn things,or remember things that they have been exposed to. it has even affected me,as i have realized that i do not know hardly anyone's phone number anymore,since i always use my contacts list in my phone to call people that i have contact with on a regular basis. [but,i can still remember my best friend fron elementary school's phone number.] and,we have become such a slave to these devides that we automatically put ALL of our friends,family members,and personal associate's contact information on to these devices,where it is not actually stored in our phones,but on private mega servers in a central location,where it would be fairly easy for a third party to access them,giviing them a seriously invasive path into our lives if they can gain access to this information. all of our text messages we have sent,and personal photographs that we have taken with our phones are also stored on these same servers,but most people do not realize this,and think that this information is just stored on our devices in our pockets,instead of in our providers computer banks. |
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