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Topic: Roseanne immediately cancelled after racist twitter rant...
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/30/18 01:01 PM
racist: adjective showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another until looking like a monkey is considered a compliment, I believe that it shows a belief in someone's inferior appearance, which is why it can be taken as racist when applied to black folks, who have been compared to animals and dehumanized throughout western history ... words can only hurt you if you let them... Just because people are looking in every corner for racism doesn't mean they are always right when they think they find it... I agree, people are never ALWAYS right about anything. but people do have some frame of reference in any discussion.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/30/18 01:01 PM
On the news they put up a pic of the woman and a pic of planet of the apes. The woman had similar features. I don't get what the big deal is. Trump has asked why they didn't make anyone apologize to him for terrible remarks. The point is the station has a double standard. You do understand that right? Its not really a double standard in Trump's case, he gets back what he dishes, thats more like Karma. Unprovoked attacks on others is a different matter, and there is also the matter that this wasnt a matter of one comment but a series of events that included the comment ...and led to cancellation more liberal hypocrisy... Nobody could even say they disapproved of Obama without being called a racist or worse, now it's the norm to insult a white President... and no one could make the claim of racism without being challenged ... so ... its the norm to insult EVERY president depending upon which way one voted,

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Wed 05/30/18 01:03 PM
I think she kind of looks like Roseanne. So that probably wasnt a big deal but the last straw in a line of other things that have probably gone on to cause others to quit the show.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 05/30/18 01:09 PM Edited by mightymoe on Wed 05/30/18 01:10 PM
On the news they put up a pic of the woman and a pic of planet of the apes. The woman had similar features. I don't get what the big deal is. Trump has asked why they didn't make anyone apologize to him for terrible remarks. The point is the station has a double standard. You do understand that right? Its not really a double standard in Trump's case, he gets back what he dishes, thats more like Karma. Unprovoked attacks on others is a different matter, and there is also the matter that this wasnt a matter of one comment but a series of events that included the comment ...and led to cancellation more liberal hypocrisy... Nobody could even say they disapproved of Obama without being called a racist or worse, now it's the norm to insult a white President... and no one could make the claim of racism without being challenged ... so ... its the norm to insult EVERY president depending upon which way one voted, bs... It was fine till Bush Jr was elected...and, that's about the same time the internet was getting huge as well...

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Wed 05/30/18 01:12 PM Edited by Toodygirl5 on Wed 05/30/18 01:13 PM
A racist hates other races, no matter if they look like a ape or not. The person can be attractive but a racist wouldn't notice that.

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 05/30/18 01:22 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is!

Beachfarmer Joined Tue 04/17/07 Posts: 24648	Wed 05/30/18 01:31 PM
DFC....she was a Twit before anyone could Tweet

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 05/30/18 01:35 PM
DFC....she was a Twit before anyone could Tweet lol...no arguments there

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 05/30/18 01:37 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already...

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 05/30/18 02:28 PM Edited by shovelheaddave on Wed 05/30/18 03:01 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already... racism is what modern civilized society SAYS it is!! roseanne excercised her right to free speech to say those vile things,and then ABC excercised THEIR right to free speech to say you're fired for your abhorrent,and repugnant remarks,because we will not tolerate that sort of racism! so,it REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

IMFrisson Joined Sun 05/27/18 Posts: 49	Wed 05/30/18 02:31 PM
yellowrose10: Exactly my point. We are all equal.

IMFrisson Joined Sun 05/27/18 Posts: 49	Wed 05/30/18 02:58 PM
MightyMoe 12:57 re: panspernia Good one, Moe. Ya taught me a new word. Even my Mirriam Webster c.1999 did not have it. Maybe I need to upgrade. When one comes on sale for $2 at the thrift store... Had to go to Wiki, no, not the leaky kind. Um, so, I wasn't going as far as space dust, but I get your point.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/30/18 03:05 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already... more than twice actually, because the word can be used as a noun to describe a person or as an ADJECTIVE to describe actions and words and now another word, RACISM: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 05/30/18 03:06 PM
Y'all Race is not the issue. Consider: Mitochondrial DNA has been traced back to the 'original mother' who emanated from, guess where—Ethiopia. So we all share the same traits. Furthermore, if one is to believe Darwin's Theory of Evolution, mankind, in general descended from the Simians. If one believes in the Judeo Christian theology, you would be hard-pressed to prove that Christ was white-skinned. The real issue is money and power. Disney, which owns ABC, needed to preserve its brand of family oriented, wholesome, apple pie status. It would have cost more to turn a blind eye to racist remarks with possible boycotts from advertisers and viewers going elsewhere on principle. 'Divide and conquer', familiar with that? While the populous yammers about skin color, tribalism (in the political sense, ergo, liberal versus conservative, yada yada), the rich and powerful are meanwhile: giving you a measly $50 tax break while pocketing millions; gutting the EPA so that irresponsible corporations can pollute at will, ditto the Consumer Protection Agency; ditto Planned Parenthood and Women's Health; tearing children away from parents because, heaven forbid, less fortunate folks are trying to escape murderous regimes. Wake up to what is really happening! Look for ways to get along, be inclusive instead of divisive. We are all brothers and sisters and at worst, cousins. Like black lives matter? To me all lives matter well,ALL lives DO matter,but not ALL LIVES are equally at risk,are they? so,IMO,to try to compare black lives,to other,less at risk lives as a method to delfect a statement that you dont like,or pivot the issue is disingenuous.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 05/30/18 03:10 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already... more than twice actually, because the word can be used as a noun to describe a person or as an ADJECTIVE to describe actions and words and now another word, RACISM: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and that still doesn't describe what Roseanne or anyone else on here has said or done...

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 05/30/18 03:13 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already... more than twice actually, because the word can be used as a noun to describe a person or as an ADJECTIVE to describe actions and words and now another word, RACISM: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. well, i think that pretty much answers THAT question!!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 05/30/18 03:14 PM
Y'all Race is not the issue. Consider: Mitochondrial DNA has been traced back to the 'original mother' who emanated from, guess where—Ethiopia. So we all share the same traits. Furthermore, if one is to believe Darwin's Theory of Evolution, mankind, in general descended from the Simians. If one believes in the Judeo Christian theology, you would be hard-pressed to prove that Christ was white-skinned. The real issue is money and power. Disney, which owns ABC, needed to preserve its brand of family oriented, wholesome, apple pie status. It would have cost more to turn a blind eye to racist remarks with possible boycotts from advertisers and viewers going elsewhere on principle. 'Divide and conquer', familiar with that? While the populous yammers about skin color, tribalism (in the political sense, ergo, liberal versus conservative, yada yada), the rich and powerful are meanwhile: giving you a measly $50 tax break while pocketing millions; gutting the EPA so that irresponsible corporations can pollute at will, ditto the Consumer Protection Agency; ditto Planned Parenthood and Women's Health; tearing children away from parents because, heaven forbid, less fortunate folks are trying to escape murderous regimes. Wake up to what is really happening! Look for ways to get along, be inclusive instead of divisive. We are all brothers and sisters and at worst, cousins. Like black lives matter? To me all lives matter well,ALL lives DO matter,but not ALL LIVES are equally at risk,are they? so,IMO,to try to compare black lives,to other,less at risk lives as a method to delfect a statement that you dont like,or pivot the issue is disingenuous. who's less at risk? Doesn't everyone get outa bed at some point in the day? If so, then everyone is equal at risk... I have no idea where your coming from on this...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/30/18 03:18 PM
I think it was a mistake to cancel it. I don't see the big deal about her comment. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I would have continued to watch the show. You don’t see the big deal about her comment because you’re white. There’s only one thing worse than a racist and that’s those who ignore it, or as in your case, condone it. so, its ok and not racist to say anyone other than a black looks like a monkey? Was it racist when they plastered bushes picture with a monkey face all over the internet? If your thinking saying one person looks like a monkey, and is black is racist, then you need to think a little more about what racism means... If I say Tom cruise looks like an ape, am I racist? Come on Mo, it was a racist comment. Saying Bush or Tom Cruise look like a monkey is not racist no, it’s more of an insult. What she said would obviously cause offence. the fact is that to compare a person of color to an ape is something that has been done to colored people for centuries in an attempt to dehumanize them. and,to try to defend these actions is to condone racism!! it is what it is! it ain't what it is, its what we all make it to be...I see you still haven't looked up what racist means yet, even tho it's been posted on here twice already... more than twice actually, because the word can be used as a noun to describe a person or as an ADJECTIVE to describe actions and words and now another word, RACISM: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and that still doesn't describe what Roseanne or anyone else on here has said or done... well, as its already been explained, because of the HISTORY of dehumanizing minorities and their looks by comparing them to animals, it very well CAN describe the choice to say a black person looks like an Ape, especially if one making the statement is not beauty queen themselves ..

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 05/30/18 03:19 PM Edited by shovelheaddave on Wed 05/30/18 03:21 PM
Y'all Race is not the issue. Consider: Mitochondrial DNA has been traced back to the 'original mother' who emanated from, guess where—Ethiopia. So we all share the same traits. Furthermore, if one is to believe Darwin's Theory of Evolution, mankind, in general descended from the Simians. If one believes in the Judeo Christian theology, you would be hard-pressed to prove that Christ was white-skinned. The real issue is money and power. Disney, which owns ABC, needed to preserve its brand of family oriented, wholesome, apple pie status. It would have cost more to turn a blind eye to racist remarks with possible boycotts from advertisers and viewers going elsewhere on principle. 'Divide and conquer', familiar with that? While the populous yammers about skin color, tribalism (in the political sense, ergo, liberal versus conservative, yada yada), the rich and powerful are meanwhile: giving you a measly $50 tax break while pocketing millions; gutting the EPA so that irresponsible corporations can pollute at will, ditto the Consumer Protection Agency; ditto Planned Parenthood and Women's Health; tearing children away from parents because, heaven forbid, less fortunate folks are trying to escape murderous regimes. Wake up to what is really happening! Look for ways to get along, be inclusive instead of divisive. We are all brothers and sisters and at worst, cousins. Like black lives matter? To me all lives matter well,ALL lives DO matter,but not ALL LIVES are equally at risk,are they? so,IMO,to try to compare black lives,to other,less at risk lives as a method to delfect a statement that you dont like,or pivot the issue is disingenuous. who's less at risk? Doesn't everyone get outa bed at some point in the day? If so, then everyone is equal at risk... I have no idea where your coming from on this... i think that trying to split hairs to try to rationalize something that is obvious is the mark of desperation from someone who has already lost an argument,and is just grasping at straws!!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/30/18 03:21 PM
Y'all Race is not the issue. Consider: Mitochondrial DNA has been traced back to the 'original mother' who emanated from, guess where—Ethiopia. So we all share the same traits. Furthermore, if one is to believe Darwin's Theory of Evolution, mankind, in general descended from the Simians. If one believes in the Judeo Christian theology, you would be hard-pressed to prove that Christ was white-skinned. The real issue is money and power. Disney, which owns ABC, needed to preserve its brand of family oriented, wholesome, apple pie status. It would have cost more to turn a blind eye to racist remarks with possible boycotts from advertisers and viewers going elsewhere on principle. 'Divide and conquer', familiar with that? While the populous yammers about skin color, tribalism (in the political sense, ergo, liberal versus conservative, yada yada), the rich and powerful are meanwhile: giving you a measly $50 tax break while pocketing millions; gutting the EPA so that irresponsible corporations can pollute at will, ditto the Consumer Protection Agency; ditto Planned Parenthood and Women's Health; tearing children away from parents because, heaven forbid, less fortunate folks are trying to escape murderous regimes. Wake up to what is really happening! Look for ways to get along, be inclusive instead of divisive. We are all brothers and sisters and at worst, cousins. Like black lives matter? To me all lives matter well,ALL lives DO matter,but not ALL LIVES are equally at risk,are they? so,IMO,to try to compare black lives,to other,less at risk lives as a method to delfect a statement that you dont like,or pivot the issue is disingenuous. who's less at risk? Doesn't everyone get outa bed at some point in the day? If so, then everyone is equal at risk... I have no idea where your coming from on this... more at risk for death by police, more at risk for harsher sentencing when one is a suspect, more at risk for lenient sentencing of suspects when one is the victim, more at risk for housing discrimination, job discrimination, profiling ... etc. etc. etc .. .