If Trump is true to his word and gets rid of a lot of the burdensome regulations that has stifled business innovation then minority groups have a chance to succeed.

If Trump continues on with his protectionism tariffs will it will bad for everyone , I know that Hillary Clinton believed in it as well as the TPP until it was exposed that she voted for it.

I got one question...if Obama "solved" () all the problems, then why is a Republican president now? If the dems did such a great job, wouldn't we have a democrat president now? The fantasy world the liberals are living in just shows how much the libs care about the U.S. and its citizens...

well, first point, nobody said Obama (or any other POTUS) solved ALL problems.

OBama didnt run a third time. so he has little bearing on why someone would pick one candidate over the other candidate who was running.

so no, dems doing well would not ensure a dem president, anymore than reps doing well 'ensues' a rep president. the POTUS contest is about two INDIVIDUALS and how well they run their PR machine, like any other contest in the 'social media' age.

I believe you are wrong, if the Democrats are doing well why wouldn't they vote for the Democrat candidate?

When George H.W.Bush ran in 1989 all he basically said was he was continuing Reagan's plan and vision, Reagan endorsed him and Bush beat Dukakis hands down.

Bush messed up his only turn and we know what happened with Clinton and who knows what would have happened if Ross Perot wasn't in the picture

Al Gore didn't beat Bush in 2000, and Hillary Clinton didn't win even with Obama's backing.

actually most democrats voted democratic
and most reps voted rep

BUT our system is not a popular vote, it is an electoral vote. so each vote has more or less of a value depending upon the state, which is why even if MORE are voting for a candidate in raw numbers, LESS electoral votes can still end up being cast for that candidate.


As to HW. I was explaining before about running a PR campaign. Bush said alot more than 'continue Reagan's plan".

HW successfully used the PR engine to exploit images of a black man named Willie Horton, who killed someone while out on parole. (kind of like exploiting the danger illegal immigrants pose in this last election with Trump)

That combined with a 'wind up the drums of war' type support of patriot fanatics with a suggestion of requiring the pledge of allegiance in school(kind of like the suggestion that no one can be trusted in politics except non politicians), garnered him enough of a following to get the votes.

What happened with Clinton led to his re election. he also did not run a third time.

Al Gore did not beat Bush, but more people voted for Al Gore.

our system is not so simple as continuing to elect individuals based on what the preceding party politics were. The elections become a popularity contest where the most popular INDIVIDUAL(usually based on who runs the better PR engine) running wins, regardless of previous leadership's party affiliation or status.

Why are you treating me like Im some kind of neophyte? I know this, most people with more than a modicum of intelligence knows this, just because Im Canadian , do you think we are stupid up here?




you mean like how Bill Clinton wanted to show the American public how tough he was on crime personally flew back to Arkansas to witness the execution of a retarded black man named Ricky Ray Rector.





You see this is sore loser rhetoric, the only people that whines about the national vote vs electoral college are the losers of that race.

Now here is where I will call Trump a hypocrite because he believed in I think it was in 2002 that the electoral college was a bad for democracy and now that he won its fine.

Truth be told the electoral college process is what makes your country unique and it works fine, it shows the genius of your founding fathers.

By the way 95% of the time the popular vote and the electoral college works hand in hand.

Hillary got more votes but in less states, Trump won more states, kind of worked out if you ask me.

smh, touched a nerve I guess

my response was to this statement.

I believe you are wrong, if the Democrats are doing well why wouldn't they vote for the Democrat candidate?


which implies that a democrat will win if democrats vote for them, or that democrats didnt vote for them. I just provided information to fill in the gaps in that assumption.

touched a nerve?? you must have me confused with the weak minded leftist snowflakes... sorry not the case here.


I dont know if you're naive or being disingenuous , you know what we are talking about and yet you are pretending and putting a different spin on it.

You want facts? okay facts.

Bush was president for 8 years, American went to the polls in 2008, a choice between a renegade republican war hero Senator from Arizona who has been a senator for a million years or the fresh face junior senator who beat the wife of a former president and campaigned on Hope and change.

In 2012 the American people voted and re elected Obama, right?

In 2016 Obama and democrats claim that your economy recovered, millions of jobs created ( of course most of them walmart) and the uninsured got healthcare and life was good.

If that was the case Why didn't Hillary win?


But now America is back to a racist country because they elected a so called racist with no political experience .

And America is going down the tube bada bing because of the racists? where were the racists in 2012 and 2008?

Did I miss anything?

only making a point ...


Hilary also lost to another DEMOCRAT, and?

it still stands that there is no evidence that is suggesting the POTUS election is tied mainly or only to whether the predecessor of that party was seen as successful. The POTUS contest is TWO INDIVIDUALS, not their predecessor, and not the whole party.

and on the tangents

america cant go 'back' to being racist, it has never STOPPED, the forms of racism have just 'evolved'


America is also not 'going down the tubes' because of any one group, but because of members in all groups afflicted with groupthink mentality that makes everything about winning a war against each other that can prove one side to BE right and one side wrong, instead of working with each other for solutions that will help DO RIGHT for members of all sides.

well that and the gradual dumbing down of logical observational skills coinciding with the internet escalating acceptance of all the worst behaviors and most self centered attitudes ...

but thats more social than political

Let me see If I get the gist of what youre saying, because you know we Canadians are dumb according to the likes of ... never mind.

So America is racist and holds the black man down, police brutality , police killing black men blah blah blah.

Except that America voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012

How many Governors are black or minorities?

How many mayors and police chiefs are black?

how many black Military generals and If memory serves me correctly was Colin Powell a 4 star general at one time Chairman of the joint chiefs?

How many black CEO's are there?

How many black billionaires are there today compared to 1950?

How many millionaire sports starts, movies stars, entertainers are there?

Hmmmmmmm, Im scratching my head here...


Tell me again how America is racist?

Canadians didn't really see all of it...if anyone, blacks included, didn't like Obama for whatever reason, they were deamed racist during Obama's reign... The blacks that didn't vote for Obama were beat up and called " uncle toms", a derogatory name used by blacks on other blacks meaning subservient to the white man....the only worse time I can remember was the Rodney king riots, but that didn't last for 8 long years...

wow, you see alot that isnt there

I certainly never suggested Canadians are dumb or anything of the like

I did not say America 'holds the black man down'

America did vote for Obama, as well as a few minority politicians, but there were also 'free' blacks during slavery times,

the existence of exceptions doesn't prove the general trends/rules and disparities/gaps that are precedented by a history of inferior status, rights, and image ...

again, exceptions dont prove a trend ...

so you're saying the trend of racism continues.

and who is living in the past now?

Im living in the USA, as a black person, with black family and friends who are living in the USA. how about you?

poor black people...they just have it so rough...maybe if all the black people were white, or all the white people turned black,all the problems would just disappear, huh...

Im living in Canada, and your point is what?

Because I dont live in the states I cant see the problems?


Ive been to the States many many many times often months at a time,I see what is going on , Ive been stopped by police a few times when driving, funny I haven't received a ticket or been arrested, hassled or any thing.

I acknowledge things goes on but I can only go by my experience and its been pretty damn good.

not poor black people, poor AMerica, for having such intrinsic racist bias conditioning where it PERTAINS to blacks ..

you see about as well as I can tell you what its like to be a black person in CANADA. that is, not much.


visiting a place is not LIVING in a place.

yes I agree, but I said Ive been there many many many times every years since I was 14 years old, my grand parents have a condo in Florida, I have friends in New York City and Los Angeles, Im in the states many times a year.

While Ive never paid taxes in America even though Ive bought US equities, but Ive seen a doctor down there of course I have private insurance.

now If Ive been there once or twice in my lifetime I would agree with you.