Topic: Were you taught Darwinian Theory at school?
iam_resurrected's photo
Wed 07/17/19 08:27 AM

Just out of interest... have you been raised at school with biology based on Darwin or was he considered a heretic?

This thing came up due to a book I'm reading, and I remembered that when I was a teach I was told to never ever address Darwin and Darwinian theory as I'd get sacked on the spot.
I was like "Wot?!?"
As far as I can remember I've been taught that myself at school, so I didn't get it. Now I understand there's a clash between religion (I take it mostly Christianity) and Darwin.
And I'm wondering if Darwin is considered taboo at schools in other countries as well.
I'm officially Catholic, raised in a Catholic area, and if I remember correctly I have been taught Darwin, so I wonder if it's just other religions who are against this?





Personally, I would sue the school my children attended if they were being taught something introduced to the world by a man who suffered from severe MENTAL ILLNESS!!

CHARLES DARWIN // AGORAPHOBIA
Scholars still debate just exactly what problems Darwin suffered from, but whatever they were, they were serious. Despite his famed five year voyage on the Beagle (and the publication it led to) making his career, Darwin was virtually incapacitated the entire time. While he concentrated on his physical symptoms as the cause of all his suffering, the constant trembling, nausea, hysterical crying, and visual hallucinations (among other things) seem to have been mostly caused by a severe case of agoraphobia that kept him virtually bedridden from the time he turned 30. Darwin's fear of people meant he would even avoid conversations with his own children, writing, "I am forced to live… very quietly and am able to see scarcely anybody and cannot even talk long with my nearest relations." In at least one letter he mentions feeling like committing suicide due to the publication of On the Origin of Species, the controversy over which caused him much distress. He may have also suffered from OCD and hypochondria, as he kept meticulous records of every new or recurring symptom.


Darwin suffered from VISUAL HALLUCINATIONS, felt like COMMITTING SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, OCD, HYPOCHONDRIA.

^
And people follow Darwin's work like it was Gospel when he was literally a BASKET CASE full of several forms of MENTAL ILLNESSES!!

Morons!!

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Wed 07/17/19 08:42 AM


Just out of interest... have you been raised at school with biology based on Darwin or was he considered a heretic?

This thing came up due to a book I'm reading, and I remembered that when I was a teach I was told to never ever address Darwin and Darwinian theory as I'd get sacked on the spot.
I was like "Wot?!?"
As far as I can remember I've been taught that myself at school, so I didn't get it. Now I understand there's a clash between religion (I take it mostly Christianity) and Darwin.
And I'm wondering if Darwin is considered taboo at schools in other countries as well.
I'm officially Catholic, raised in a Catholic area, and if I remember correctly I have been taught Darwin, so I wonder if it's just other religions who are against this?





Personally, I would sue the school my children attended if they were being taught something introduced to the world by a man who suffered from severe MENTAL ILLNESS!!

CHARLES DARWIN // AGORAPHOBIA
Scholars still debate just exactly what problems Darwin suffered from, but whatever they were, they were serious. Despite his famed five year voyage on the Beagle (and the publication it led to) making his career, Darwin was virtually incapacitated the entire time. While he concentrated on his physical symptoms as the cause of all his suffering, the constant trembling, nausea, hysterical crying, and visual hallucinations (among other things) seem to have been mostly caused by a severe case of agoraphobia that kept him virtually bedridden from the time he turned 30. Darwin's fear of people meant he would even avoid conversations with his own children, writing, "I am forced to live… very quietly and am able to see scarcely anybody and cannot even talk long with my nearest relations." In at least one letter he mentions feeling like committing suicide due to the publication of On the Origin of Species, the controversy over which caused him much distress. He may have also suffered from OCD and hypochondria, as he kept meticulous records of every new or recurring symptom.


Darwin suffered from VISUAL HALLUCINATIONS, felt like COMMITTING SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, OCD, HYPOCHONDRIA.

^
And people follow Darwin's work like it was Gospel when he was literally a BASKET CASE full of several forms of MENTAL ILLNESSES!!

Morons!!


You say that but most people suffer from mental issues or some degree and in your life whether you will admit it or not you will have but fair enough you would rather have you kids taught that god who no one knows or can see mad 2 people who had 3 kids one got killed and that's where we all came from.

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Wed 07/17/19 09:10 AM
Too bad for Evolutionists, what Darwin himself kept records of, from what he was experiencing and suffering proves in the medical sciences, he was literally BAT-**** CRAZY!!

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Wed 07/17/19 09:14 AM



Just out of interest... have you been raised at school with biology based on Darwin or was he considered a heretic?

This thing came up due to a book I'm reading, and I remembered that when I was a teach I was told to never ever address Darwin and Darwinian theory as I'd get sacked on the spot.
I was like "Wot?!?"
As far as I can remember I've been taught that myself at school, so I didn't get it. Now I understand there's a clash between religion (I take it mostly Christianity) and Darwin.
And I'm wondering if Darwin is considered taboo at schools in other countries as well.
I'm officially Catholic, raised in a Catholic area, and if I remember correctly I have been taught Darwin, so I wonder if it's just other religions who are against this?





Personally, I would sue the school my children attended if they were being taught something introduced to the world by a man who suffered from severe MENTAL ILLNESS!!

CHARLES DARWIN // AGORAPHOBIA
Scholars still debate just exactly what problems Darwin suffered from, but whatever they were, they were serious. Despite his famed five year voyage on the Beagle (and the publication it led to) making his career, Darwin was virtually incapacitated the entire time. While he concentrated on his physical symptoms as the cause of all his suffering, the constant trembling, nausea, hysterical crying, and visual hallucinations (among other things) seem to have been mostly caused by a severe case of agoraphobia that kept him virtually bedridden from the time he turned 30. Darwin's fear of people meant he would even avoid conversations with his own children, writing, "I am forced to live… very quietly and am able to see scarcely anybody and cannot even talk long with my nearest relations." In at least one letter he mentions feeling like committing suicide due to the publication of On the Origin of Species, the controversy over which caused him much distress. He may have also suffered from OCD and hypochondria, as he kept meticulous records of every new or recurring symptom.


Darwin suffered from VISUAL HALLUCINATIONS, felt like COMMITTING SUICIDE, DEPRESSION, OCD, HYPOCHONDRIA.

^
And people follow Darwin's work like it was Gospel when he was literally a BASKET CASE full of several forms of MENTAL ILLNESSES!!

Morons!!


You say that but most people suffer from mental issues or some degree and in your life whether you will admit it or not you will have but fair enough you would rather have you kids taught that god who no one knows or can see mad 2 people who had 3 kids one got killed and that's where we all came from.




I know, due to incest and genetics being introduced throughout the human Species has done nothing but skewed our chances at being sane.

But the ones who suffer greatly tend to follow those who suffered greatly themselves.

Look at Evolution and the majority who followed Darwin's Bat-****-Crazy Idealisms!!

They both are equally BAT-****-CRAZY!!

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Wed 07/17/19 09:28 AM
The question then:
If Medical Science confirms that Darwin was literally BAT-****-CRAZY, does that mean those who bought into his insanity are also BAT-****-CRAZY?

I have no issue believing so!!

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Wed 07/17/19 10:02 AM
Things evolved things are still evolving if they didn't how could you explain how super bugs came about cause they haven't always being about they change look at how bacteria grows it starts small and gets bigger that's how life came about on this funny little rock we call earth it is adapt or die and that's all that has gone on forever I always come back to IF god created everything then fair enough but there is a lot of questions about gods sanity needs to be asked like wtf happened to god for him to create the platypus a egg laying mammal with a ducks bill was that something where god needs to fill his quota of mammals and only had spare parts so chucked em together.

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Wed 07/17/19 02:01 PM

Things evolved things are still evolving if they didn't how could you explain how super bugs came about cause they haven't always being about they change look at how bacteria grows it starts small and gets bigger that's how life came about on this funny little rock we call earth it is adapt or die and that's all that has gone on forever I always come back to IF god created everything then fair enough but there is a lot of questions about gods sanity needs to be asked like wtf happened to god for him to create the platypus a egg laying mammal with a ducks bill was that something where god needs to fill his quota of mammals and only had spare parts so chucked em together.





Just because life forms adapt and evolve do not prove the Theory of Evolution is correct. Things can adapt and evolve under Intelligent Design. What's interesting, when Science hits a speed bump, they toss in "Randomness." But Intelligent Design accounts for everything.

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Wed 07/17/19 02:14 PM
So what is with the platypus if that is a thing that something has created this all knowing all seeing thing then why would that be I understand fish and snakes lay eggs or have live births but why only one mammal :fearful: unless it was done just t prove it could be done and to make it so special it always gets asked about.

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Thu 07/18/19 12:02 PM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Thu 07/18/19 12:04 PM

So what is with the platypus if that is a thing that something has created this all knowing all seeing thing then why would that be I understand fish and snakes lay eggs or have live births but why only one mammal :fearful: unless it was done just t prove it could be done and to make it so special it always gets asked about.





Why Not?

What is to say the Higher Knowledge has a great sense of humor.
What better way to play that mental game than by tossing the proverbial curveball once in awhile.

Technically, the female human has eggs that require fertilization. Technically, that life form is in sort of egg sac until birth. As are ALL Species!!

The only difference between laying eggs and carrying eggs are the amount of eggs that get fertilized.

This really is a common sense question/answer and not one that presents much difficulty at all!!

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Thu 07/18/19 11:15 PM
hat life form is in sort of egg sac until birth. As are ALL Species!!

Well, except for those species reproducing by cell division and germination of plants.

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Fri 07/19/19 06:59 PM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Fri 07/19/19 07:00 PM

hat life form is in sort of egg sac until birth. As are ALL Species!!

Well, except for those species reproducing by cell division and germination of plants.



True, but they are not structured at a scale where the entire animal kingdom exists at.

I love how bacteria helps the earth, that helps plants who produce food and cleaner air, that helps the insect, who can help germs that at times benefit all animal Species, who reproduce themselves, and some become the eater and some the food. It's all a birthing process giving to the next Species. Which clearly reveals a Design.

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Fri 07/19/19 07:43 PM

Just out of interest... have you been raised at school with biology based on Darwin or was he considered a heretic?

This thing came up due to a book I'm reading, and I remembered that when I was a teach I was told to never ever address Darwin and Darwinian theory as I'd get sacked on the spot.
I was like "Wot?!?"
As far as I can remember I've been taught that myself at school, so I didn't get it. Now I understand there's a clash between religion (I take it mostly Christianity) and Darwin.
And I'm wondering if Darwin is considered taboo at schools in other countries as well.
I'm officially Catholic, raised in a Catholic area, and if I remember correctly I have been taught Darwin, so I wonder if it's just other religions who are against this?

raised catholic went to private catholic school was not taught Darwinian theory don't believe in it or mainline religion last church I went in the building moved the ceiling almost fell in

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Fri 07/19/19 09:17 PM
The lovely resurrected thread.

To the OP: I attended public school and was instructed in Darwin's (or Wallace's if you prefer) theory. The instructor gave a 5 minute preamble in an attempt to head off any religious objections to the instruction. I vaguely recall there was some humor and specific mention of USSC case. It's been a while.

I read through four pages until I encountered someone who even hinted at what I consider the heart of the matter: no one should believe in Darwin's theory of evolution. It is not a matter of belief and it requires no faith. It is an idea which serves as a model, a framework to interpret the data we have and predict the data we do not. As soon as empiricists discover any datum in conflict, that datum must be invalidated or the theory must (and typically theorys undergo refinement until a gestalt shift and replacement with a new theory -- often at the death of a big wig in the field -- people being what they are).

Personally I have not the slightest ripple of cognitive dissonance between evolutionary theory and my faith and belief system. YMMV

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Fri 07/19/19 10:44 PM
Well, after giving my attestment,
Has anyone considered that evolution is how God intended life to unfold?

Just for a second consider God set things in motion intending for them to progress how we now see them.

Perhaps, just perhaps the Universe is not all about us?
Perhaps there is more to "The Plan" than what has been revealed to us?

To consider that possibility, things start to make more sense.

Now things start to make more sense.
While we are still special to the Lord, we are not the only factor in the reality in which we exist.

We gain understanding in our ascention of knowledge which the Lord intended.
We were designed to understand creation but that understanding requires experience.

Perhaps we only know what we are able to know?

Disclaimer: I don't actually believe this but it is possible.
I believe we are only able to understand things our minds can grasp, its kinda the same thing.

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Mon 07/22/19 01:14 PM

Well, after giving my attestment,
Has anyone considered that evolution is how God intended life to unfold?

Just for a second consider God set things in motion intending for them to progress how we now see them.

Perhaps, just perhaps the Universe is not all about us?
Perhaps there is more to "The Plan" than what has been revealed to us?

To consider that possibility, things start to make more sense.

Now things start to make more sense.
While we are still special to the Lord, we are not the only factor in the reality in which we exist.

We gain understanding in our ascention of knowledge which the Lord intended.
We were designed to understand creation but that understanding requires experience.

Perhaps we only know what we are able to know?

Disclaimer: I don't actually believe this but it is possible.
I believe we are only able to understand things our minds can grasp, its kinda the same thing.


So is life on earth like the sims, the old PC game where everything we to is controlled by someone and everything in our life's is just a game.

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Wed 07/31/19 07:41 PM
Why? Creationism has no scientific basis. We have a responsibility to children to not screw them up.

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Wed 07/31/19 07:50 PM
So…Darwin was human.
He is still my favourite human.
What is it with brilliant ideas and dull witted people?
Ought not the dull and stupid lament their crushed psyches instead?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 07/31/19 09:30 PM
Science has revealed evolution in genetic coding.
I was not taught Darwinian theory because it did not follow the proclamations of Darwin specifically.
I was taught evolutionary biology.

Its why your children look like you.
Same but slightly different because they have genes from both parents.
In a pristine creationism biological plan, all off spring would mimic the dominate individual. Dominance as established by their strength of faith.
What we see in the REAL world is a genetic evolution of the species.

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Wed 07/31/19 11:31 PM
Madness, provided it comes as the gift of heaven, is the channel by which we receive the greatest blessings... the men of old who gave things their names saw no disgrace or reproach in madness; otherwise they would not have connected it with the name of the noblest of arts, the art of discerning the future, and called it the manic art... So, according to the evidence provided by our ancestors, madness is a nobler thing than sober sense... madness comes from God, whereas sober sense is merely human.
Plato

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Wed 07/31/19 11:37 PM
Other than that I keep an open mind to learning new things google can teach a chimp brain surgery so if anything is possible is that none of us is right nor wrong we keep fighting each other over such said beliefs and all we are is... millions of years old.... yet history and the bible say thousands... something gave us this realization to our genetic being all of us cross bed and are off distant cousins a man in Africa is related to me somehow me being in United states and white... over and over this branch of having any kind of genetics that all of us popped up and mingled is false we simply have over populated the planet some multiple partners some find love all of us is simply misunderstood and wondering our own existence who's to say all of us isn't crazy?