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| Topic: Were you taught Darwinian Theory at school? | |
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I will just say this, If any school teaches "evolution " , then they definitely should teach creationism and let the child think and decide for him/ her self. |
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The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. It absolutely has not been proven a fact whatsoever. It actually is a piss poor theory just like the theory of evolution. No facts , just theories. Fact - animals change..called evolving...we might not know why, but it's a well known fact they do... Fact - the symbiotic relationship between everything from micobs in our bodies to plants, insects, birds, animals and fish...they evolved to help each other out, like ants milking aphids for nector,while others grow gardens of mold for food... Again, we don't know how or why, we just know that they do... All it takes is a slight DNA change to change their genes and an offshoot of that animal, a sub species is born... And for the sub species to flurish, that's where the survival of the fittest comes into play... 1000's of new species are discovered every year, showing evolution is going strong.... |
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New species isn't evidence of evolution or the definition thereof.
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yes, they did but I was out sick that day.
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New species isn't evidence of evolution or the definition thereof. |
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New species isn't evidence of evolution or the definition thereof. That is incorrect. Actually DNA completely declares creation/Creator. DNA is what determines whether you turn out to be a man, a mushroom, a dandelion, or a dinosaur. DNA of one human cell would fill a 1,000 volume set of encyclopedias. If the DNA in all the cells of one human were laid out in s string or line , it would reach from the Earth to the sun and back some 400 times. Wow. Only intelligent design would be plausible. |
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LMAO!!!
"EVOLUTION" is thoroughly proven by science EVERY DAY!!! all you have to do is look at the way virus's adapt,and they have to constantly find new vaccines to treat different strains of influenza every year to prove that things evolve,and adapt! if the influenza viruses werent adapting,and EVOLVING,they wouldnt have to do that,and the same vaccine would work on the virus EVERY YEAR! but,it DOESNT,so.... the proof is in the pudding!  |
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When I went to school evolution was not an issue. There was a separation between science and religion. Creationism was taught in Sunday school and it wasn't a conflict. I was taught that both could exist at the same time. That the natural state of things could have more than one truth and that neither truth had more weight than the other. Each was absolute for its own reasons. So if I may ask, was that in a Catholic setting? I'm just curious to learn if there's a difference in this between Catholics and Christians. Not Catholic but I did have friends that were Catholic and attended the local Catholic schools. Sure there is a difference between Catholic and Christian. However, Catholic is Christian basically. There is also Protestant, Baptist and a few other distinctions within Christianity. When I was attending school, nearly everyone had some type of religious affiliation. Atheism and Agnosticism was virtually unheard of. All my teachers attended their churches on Sunday. Inter-dynamic social structures were religion based and religion played a very high part in social morals and attitudes. Fortunately, In my rural school, there were not many 'gangs' but kids did socialize in groups. While we may have 'hadded' (hate is too strong of a word) some teachers, everyone respected their authority. Our parents and guardians, for the most part, were active in raising us. Since most of us lived on farms, we knew what hard work was about and understood why we had to do it. We also knew about cross pollination and animal breeding so evolution was an easy concept to accept. To most of us, Creationism explained why and Evolution explained how. It was easy to accept both as truth. That last bit I like a lot: one explains why, the other how :) 
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The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. It absolutely has not been proven a fact whatsoever. It actually is a piss poor theory just like the theory of evolution. No facts , just theories. Fact - animals change..called evolving...we might not know why, but it's a well known fact they do... Fact - the symbiotic relationship between everything from micobs in our bodies to plants, insects, birds, animals and fish...they evolved to help each other out, like ants milking aphids for nector,while others grow gardens of mold for food... Again, we don't know how or why, we just know that they do... All it takes is a slight DNA change to change their genes and an offshoot of that animal, a sub species is born... And for the sub species to flurish, that's where the survival of the fittest comes into play... 1000's of new species are discovered every year, showing evolution is going strong.... Amazing thing is that genetic changes also occur between species, so without reproduction. That's why GM is so dangerous, and what they likely didn't think of when they began that. Weeds that grow close to GM crops have now become super weeds. The same things has occurred between other species, genetic changes between species I mean. Reading Bruce Lipton's book "The Biology of Belief", a scientist (biologist) who was considered a heretic in his field for decades because of the leading-edge things he discovered. I cannot relay it as he can of course, lol, but dang, it is interesting!! He also states that this part of "survival of the fittest" by Darwin wasn't correct, and apparently that part of Darwin has been questioned or disputed by the scientific world. I'll have to read that part again to have it sink in, hihi. But love this stuff. Glad to see you in on this too, Moe! You've been gone from the forums for way too long!
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Edited for personal attacks, kindly address the Topic
with less confrontational posts. soufie Site Admin |
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LMAO!!! "EVOLUTION" is thoroughly proven by science EVERY DAY!!! all you have to do is look at the way virus's adapt,and they have to constantly find new vaccines to treat different strains of influenza every year to prove that things evolve,and adapt! if the influenza viruses werent adapting,and EVOLVING,they wouldnt have to do that,and the same vaccine would work on the virus EVERY YEAR! but,it DOESNT,so.... the proof is in the pudding! Evolution is not thoroughly proven by science everyday whatsoever. Adaptation is not evolution. Viruses do not adapt anyway, they mutate. Huge difference. What genuine evidence is there for evolution? Answer: The following is a listing of all of the proofs of evolution. ******* |
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It was never my intention to start a huge discussion, although I knew the chances of that happening were substantial.
From the reactions I guestimate that's it's a bit 50-50 concerning what people hold as their truth. That in itself is quite peculiar if I may say so. I mean, most who replied are born and raised in a first world country, yet approx 50% holds a completely opposing view from the other 50% I wonder, what is quantum physics take on this, as quantum physics usually bridge the gap between science and religion. Also, does anyone know the Quran's explanation? Just interested, and an online search will likely come up with a incomprehensible account. |
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Interesting topic Crystal.
Where I grew up (Oregon, USA), Darwin was taught in public schools systems as that had "Science" and was a way to explain how we came to be. There was and still is mostly seperation of "Church and State" in public school systems there so creationism was not taught as it was viewed as religious and not science but was mentioned as a side note. My knowledge of Creationism was from Sunday school classes based on Christianity (not Catholic) and studies I continue to this day of religious material. |
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I wonder, what is quantum physics take on this, as quantum physics usually bridge the gap between science and religion. First its important to know what Quantum is. In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity (physical property) involved in an interaction. In the physics at the extreme small end of the relativity scale, matter acts differently. Natural laws exist to a point, then all bets are off. The study of quantum physics is the study of the physical interactions of matter at the extremely small. The application of quantum physics is the manipulation of matter at the extremely small that yeilds predictable results at larger scales. I suspect that evolution occurs at quantum levels but it is different than the evolution that occurs at larger scales. One thing I think is sure is that this Universe exists in a state of constant change. That interactions of matter at any scale causes change and in that sense, everything evolves from its pristine state. This evolution in state change can be measured down to the quantum levels. The mechanics of the change is different as to the sample's relative size. Those changes happen at different rates at different size relativity. Creationism postulates that everything, no matter its relative size is pristine and will always remain pristine. Creationism ignores state changes in biology. Creationism ignores cause and effect. In a sense, creationism does exist as long as there is no change in state. For example, a carbon atom will remain a carbon atom until a proton, an electron or a neutron is added or removed. However, once that change happens, the carbon atom 'evolves' into something else. It changes 'from' its pristine state. |
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LMAO!!! "EVOLUTION" is thoroughly proven by science EVERY DAY!!! all you have to do is look at the way virus's adapt,and they have to constantly find new vaccines to treat different strains of influenza every year to prove that things evolve,and adapt! if the influenza viruses werent adapting,and EVOLVING,they wouldnt have to do that,and the same vaccine would work on the virus EVERY YEAR! but,it DOESNT,so.... the proof is in the pudding! or,dont you believe in 'PUDDING' either?? Evolution is not thoroughly proven by science everyday whatsoever. Adaptation is not evolution. Viruses do not adapt anyway, they mutate. Huge difference. What genuine evidence is there for evolution? Answer: The following is a listing of all of the proofs of evolution. *******  
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The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. It absolutely has not been proven a fact whatsoever. It actually is a piss poor theory just like the theory of evolution. No facts , just theories. Fact - animals change..called evolving...we might not know why, but it's a well known fact they do... Fact - the symbiotic relationship between everything from micobs in our bodies to plants, insects, birds, animals and fish...they evolved to help each other out, like ants milking aphids for nector,while others grow gardens of mold for food... Again, we don't know how or why, we just know that they do... All it takes is a slight DNA change to change their genes and an offshoot of that animal, a sub species is born... And for the sub species to flurish, that's where the survival of the fittest comes into play... 1000's of new species are discovered every year, showing evolution is going strong.... Amazing thing is that genetic changes also occur between species, so without reproduction. That's why GM is so dangerous, and what they likely didn't think of when they began that. Weeds that grow close to GM crops have now become super weeds. The same things has occurred between other species, genetic changes between species I mean. Reading Bruce Lipton's book "The Biology of Belief", a scientist (biologist) who was considered a heretic in his field for decades because of the leading-edge things he discovered. I cannot relay it as he can of course, lol, but dang, it is interesting!! He also states that this part of "survival of the fittest" by Darwin wasn't correct, and apparently that part of Darwin has been questioned or disputed by the scientific world. I'll have to read that part again to have it sink in, hihi. But love this stuff. Glad to see you in on this too, Moe! You've been gone from the forums for way too long! |
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The theory of evolution, of ape to man,
is frequently and WRONGLY attributed to Darwin. That particular theory came about, after Darwin's passing, and was somehow lumped in with Darwin's works, in an effort to lend the theory credibility. |
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The theory of evolution, of ape to man, is frequently and WRONGLY attributed to Darwin. That particular theory came about, after Darwin's passing, and was somehow lumped in with Darwin's works, in an effort to lend the theory credibility. |
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The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. It absolutely has not been proven a fact whatsoever. It actually is a piss poor theory just like the theory of evolution. No facts , just theories. Fact - animals change..called evolving...we might not know why, but it's a well known fact they do... Fact - the symbiotic relationship between everything from micobs in our bodies to plants, insects, birds, animals and fish...they evolved to help each other out, like ants milking aphids for nector,while others grow gardens of mold for food... Again, we don't know how or why, we just know that they do... All it takes is a slight DNA change to change their genes and an offshoot of that animal, a sub species is born... And for the sub species to flurish, that's where the survival of the fittest comes into play... 1000's of new species are discovered every year, showing evolution is going strong.... Before I say what I'm going to say, it takes A LOT of faith to believe in the theory of evolution. MEGA amounts of faith. It takes more faith to believe a lie then the truth. Methods are now available which can tell us with mathematical precision the exact genetic differences between all forms of life. 1. Supposedly, simple single cell life forms eventually evolved into invertebrate sea life , then to fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds, mammals, and then man. 2. To prove this conclusion, biochemists measured the precise number of differences in the DNA , expecting forms thought to be closely related in the evolutionary process to be similar genetically and forms distantly related to be distant genetically. What did they discover? The answer that shocked the evolutionary world was that all forms of life were basically equally distant from all other forms of life genetically. The amazing discovery was that man is no more closely related to kangaroos than to birds and no closer to birds than to reptiles, frogs, fish,or even fungi! Please note, had the opposite evidence been discovered , it would have been hailed as irrefutable proof that evolution has occurred. Why then are not these discoveries hailed by scientists as irrefutable proof that evolution has NOT occurred? Could it be... " My mind is made up . Don't bother me with the evidence!" |
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What I posted is quite interesting and fact.
It was in response to your quoted post. I even made it very concise without losing the essence of the point I was making. |
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