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My daughter was telling me about a social experiment. She said they put two children on the street asking for money. One was homeless and the other wanted money for make -up. The girl wanting make-up, received the most money. I think it proves that people are sick of the "poor me" that is going on in the world. I think in time things will get better because the strong will survive. Just like mother nature has intended. Our country is strong but it's clear we have groups trying to destroy it from the inside. They are the ones who talk about other countries like they aren't Americans. or it could mean people who feel they have merit relate to others with enough 'merit' to only be needing make up, as opposed to those who actually may need money to survive and have basics and are therefore perceived as not having merit. |
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I dont believe we can measure strictly in dollars when speaking HISTORICALLY about wealth..msharmony who said we did? as the value of dollars have changed and are worth more or less than the same dollars of another age..msharmony Irreverent , doesn't matter if you're on the gold standard, gold exchange, fiat or silver dollars and gold coins. if you have more assets than liabilities that is how its measured. the millionaires of old, relatively speaking, would still be the 1% relative the the average incomes and wealth of others in the nation. But lets hope the wealthy and powerful dont continue to push down and dehumanize everyone/ de-value everyone else.msharmony give us an example of who is doing this to society? |
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My daughter was telling me about a social experiment. She said they put two children on the street asking for money. One was homeless and the other wanted money for make -up. The girl wanting make-up, received the most money. I think it proves that people are sick of the "poor me" that is going on in the world. I think in time things will get better because the strong will survive. Just like mother nature has intended. Our country is strong but it's clear we have groups trying to destroy it from the inside. They are the ones who talk about other countries like they aren't Americans. or it could mean people who feel they have merit relate to others with enough 'merit' to only be needing make up, as opposed to those who actually may need money to survive and have basics and are therefore perceived as not having merit. I don't think so. I think people are sick of the poor me they hear. I know people here can get money faster if they hold up a sign needing a beer. It not merit, it's tired of being taken advantage of. Plenty of jobs available, cheep housing etc. It's just working instead of receiving for free. I know on Facebook people have used their kids trying to get free a.c. units before spring ever began. By the comments, I can tell you people are sick of it. |
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But lets hope the wealthy and powerful dont continue to push down and dehumanize everyone/ de-value everyone else. Hope? Why hope? If they do, we fight back...the Walton's, some of the richest in America...we made them rich...if you want to make them not rich, quit going to wall Mart...I know you liberals are taught to hide in your safe place and cry till it's over, but that's not a real life option...most people have fight, try their best, give it their all to achieve anything, , but liberals think a participation trophy is better they working hard and achieving their dreams and goals...if the rich people are dehumanizing us, then we fight back, not cower in our safe places drinking whatever those discussing drinks are from Starbucks... |
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The folk who moan about those who are rich are the same people buying all that stuff at Target, Dollar General, Wal Mart, ect, ect ect. All that stuff made in China. The cheap sff
They moan about jobs off shore, moan about Chinese getting rich off our money. Moan about Americans getting rich off it. but they make a point of buying those $1 rolls of paper towel at family dollar stores. They know it all comes from China... but they want to save a buck.. and complain. Best of both worlds. |
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I dont believe we can measure strictly in dollars when speaking HISTORICALLY about wealth..msharmony who said we did? as the value of dollars have changed and are worth more or less than the same dollars of another age..msharmony Irreverent , doesn't matter if you're on the gold standard, gold exchange, fiat or silver dollars and gold coins. if you have more assets than liabilities that is how its measured. the millionaires of old, relatively speaking, would still be the 1% relative the the average incomes and wealth of others in the nation. But lets hope the wealthy and powerful dont continue to push down and dehumanize everyone/ de-value everyone else.msharmony give us an example of who is doing this to society? It is all over the political discussions in in the political rhetoric, one only has to listen closer. in the idea that people on the one end(poverty) should have only scraps to motivate them to produce more but the people on the other end(wealth) should receive bonus after bonus and perk after perk in order to motivate them to produce more in the idea that people's lives are expendable based upon how 'fearful' other people feel of them in a confrontation coupled with how much more likely it is for the system to forgive, overlook or adequately defend the wealthy and their crimes than they are the poor and theirs in the idea that anyone who cannot pay for the IMAGE of perfect morality, should be subject and expendable to the police state the underlying classist system of protections and praise and 'merit' branding for the haves and the simultaneous system of harsh and strict standards for everyone else, and the image that they arent doing or giving ENOUGH, and dont have 'merit' as much as those who have enough or more than enough these things are NEVER framed as the haves and the have nots, but that is how their benefits and obstacles end up breaking down ... |
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My daughter was telling me about a social experiment. She said they put two children on the street asking for money. One was homeless and the other wanted money for make -up. The girl wanting make-up, received the most money. I think it proves that people are sick of the "poor me" that is going on in the world. I think in time things will get better because the strong will survive. Just like mother nature has intended. Our country is strong but it's clear we have groups trying to destroy it from the inside. They are the ones who talk about other countries like they aren't Americans. or it could mean people who feel they have merit relate to others with enough 'merit' to only be needing make up, as opposed to those who actually may need money to survive and have basics and are therefore perceived as not having merit. I don't think so. I think people are sick of the poor me they hear. I know people here can get money faster if they hold up a sign needing a beer. It not merit, it's tired of being taken advantage of. Plenty of jobs available, cheep housing etc. It's just working instead of receiving for free. I know on Facebook people have used their kids trying to get free a.c. units before spring ever began. By the comments, I can tell you people are sick of it. in the example given, neither had any more obvious 'merit' than the other, especially since they were both allegedly CHILDREN, who last I checked are not generally stacked with income or resources of their own they were both 'begging', the latter was just more likely to already have a family with their own means for a non necessity |
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The folk who moan about those who are rich are the same people buying all that stuff at Target, Dollar General, Wal Mart, ect, ect ect. All that stuff made in China. The cheap sff They moan about jobs off shore, moan about Chinese getting rich off our money. Moan about Americans getting rich off it. but they make a point of buying those $1 rolls of paper towel at family dollar stores. They know it all comes from China... but they want to save a buck.. and complain. Best of both worlds. I will be the first to admit I dont micro review every purchase I make. I do have a budget so I search for the best deal. And those shops happen to employ lots of people who also are working and earning money because of my shopping so they can get things at the best price for THEM. that is not very avoidable in the global age at the consumer end, unless people all and only shop at mom and pop corner stores. so the impetus for the most realistic change comes in those who control the pricing and the hiring and the employment locations. |
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The problem is people are dehumanizing themselves. Teacher's are afraid in some schools because they are so violent. The parents of the kids aren't any better. Won't work and layed up on drugs. Nobody should expect others to value them if they don't value themselves.
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The problem is people are dehumanizing themselves. Teacher's are afraid in some schools because they are so violent. The parents of the kids aren't any better. Won't work and layed up on drugs. Nobody should expect others to value them if they don't value themselves. both are problems because its a cycle. People dont live in tunnels with JUST family or JUST parents, they experience and become influenced by the WORLD as they experience it. A world that treat them or shows them they are not valued can eventually condition their mind to believe they have no value and for them to play that out in their life. Likewise those who play out because they dont feel they have value, continue to be treated as if they have none. it is not either/or, but both. Both are problems that decent people need to address. |
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It is all over the political discussions in in the political rhetoric, one only has to listen closer. in the idea that people on the one end(poverty) should have only scraps to motivate them to produce more msharmony they should motivate themselves if they want to get out of poverty, many have. but the people on the other end(wealth) should receive bonus after bonus and perk after perk in order to motivate them to produce moremsharmony it works though. in the idea that people's lives are expendable based upon how 'fearful' other people feel of them in a confrontation coupled with how much more likely it is for the system to forgive, overlook or adequately defend the wealthy and their crimes than they are the poor and theirs msharmony you mean like how the 68 year old woman in Chicago riding the subway who was suckered punch by a thug and has lost her vision you mean how the woman in Dallas Texas stopping in for gas with her two young children in the back seat only to be car jacked, luckily she had a gun, or are these outliers? in the idea that anyone who cannot pay for the IMAGE of perfect morality, should be subject and expendable to the police state the underlying classist system of protections and praise and 'merit' branding for the haves and the simultaneous system of harsh and strict standards for everyone else, and the image that they arent doing or giving ENOUGH, and dont have 'merit' as much as those who have enough or more than enough these things are NEVER framed as the haves and the have nots, but that is how their benefits and obstacles end up breaking down ...msharmony Who said life is fair, such is life.. here is something Msharmony, why dont we tell people to obey the law, it works for all citizens. I had an argument with someone who said to me Eric Garner did not deserve to die, and I agreed, but I added perhaps if Eric wasnt selling bootleg cigarettes you know "breaking the law" he might not have been in that situation. Plus he could have lost some weight perhaps try what Oprah was pushing |
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Edited by
greeneyes148
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Sat 07/21/18 04:52 PM
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The folk who moan about those who are rich are the same people buying all that stuff at Target, Dollar General, Wal Mart, ect, ect ect. All that stuff made in China. The cheap sff They moan about jobs off shore, moan about Chinese getting rich off our money. Moan about Americans getting rich off it. but they make a point of buying those $1 rolls of paper towel at family dollar stores. They know it all comes from China... but they want to save a buck.. and complain. Best of both worlds. I will be the first to admit I dont micro review every purchase I make. I do have a budget so I search for the best deal. And those shops happen to employ lots of people who also are working and earning money because of my shopping so they can get things at the best price for THEM. that is not very avoidable in the global age at the consumer end, unless people all and only shop at mom and pop corner stores. so the impetus for the most realistic change comes in those who control the pricing and the hiring and the employment locations. Supply and demand, MS. As long as there are people like you who buy that cheap stuff made in China then there will be billionaires ( and millionaires) lined up to supply it... period You can try to validate it by saying you help with keeping people employed, maybe that feels good. but be honest... you just want the cheap prices. We made these millionaires by demanding cheap prices.. then cheaper. |
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Edited by
tombraider
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Sat 07/21/18 04:54 PM
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I suppose it all depends on whether we outlast the fukushima radiation continuously being poured into the ocean..into the air onto the grains and food supplies,or we manage to survive the chem trails of barium,strontium and aluminum..now if we make it through all that and the excessive intake of aluminum hasn't made us dumb as shyt or the radiation hasn't killed us.turned us into cannibalistic zombies or managed to evolve us into creatures who could care less about the society in which we live as we search for people to eat..or the GMOs and nanotech in our food hasn't killed us and last but not least the prescription filled water supplies we drink from hasn't made us all nuts..or some frackin' fools don't start another volcano that engulfs the whole planet..I suppose if we make it through all that ..I think I would be more apt to roll up a fattie and be happy I just survived one screwed up ride..because no matter who rules or how they rule ..it will probably be just as screwed up as it's always been..with just another idiot in charge.......you asked..  IMO you want to straighten out the school system gear it more toward a military academy type..uniforms and all..that would help break down the riff raff atmosphere. Incorporate major tech companies during the high school years so that not only would the corporations help to contribute financially to the schools..but the young people getting out of high school have better career skills where they don't have to start at the bottom..not to mention we wouldn't have to outsource a lot of the tech jobs or go into debt for college..time to get serious about the education we provide and one that advances with the times in order to keep up with the times |
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The folk who moan about those who are rich are the same people buying all that stuff at Target, Dollar General, Wal Mart, ect, ect ect. All that stuff made in China. The cheap sff They moan about jobs off shore, moan about Chinese getting rich off our money. Moan about Americans getting rich off it. but they make a point of buying those $1 rolls of paper towel at family dollar stores. They know it all comes from China... but they want to save a buck.. and complain. Best of both worlds. I will be the first to admit I dont micro review every purchase I make. I do have a budget so I search for the best deal. And those shops happen to employ lots of people who also are working and earning money because of my shopping so they can get things at the best price for THEM. that is not very avoidable in the global age at the consumer end, unless people all and only shop at mom and pop corner stores. so the impetus for the most realistic change comes in those who control the pricing and the hiring and the employment locations. Supply and demand, MS. As long as there are people like you who buy that cheap stuff made in China then there will be billionaires ( and millionaires) lined up to supply it... period You can try to validate it by saying you help with keeping people employed, maybe that feels good. but be honest... you just want the cheap prices. I want the best price "available", barring products ONLY produced through exploitative slave or child labor, which in the global market, there is little of. It doesnt keep the manufacturers from scrupulous practices that can provide affordable prices without screwing over those who are struggling to earn a buck to afford those purchases. |
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The problem is people are dehumanizing themselves. Teacher's are afraid in some schools because they are so violent. The parents of the kids aren't any better. Won't work and layed up on drugs. Nobody should expect others to value them if they don't value themselves. both are problems because its a cycle. People dont live in tunnels with JUST family or JUST parents, they experience and become influenced by the WORLD as they experience it. A world that treat them or shows them they are not valued can eventually condition their mind to believe they have no value and for them to play that out in their life. Likewise those who play out because they dont feel they have value, continue to be treated as if they have none. it is not either/or, but both. Both are problems that decent people need to address. They've already tried to change these types of people and it doesn't work. People are tired of the focus being on people who won't help themselves instead of trying to further the education of someone who is striving. It's dumbing down Americans. |
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The problem is people are dehumanizing themselves. Teacher's are afraid in some schools because they are so violent. The parents of the kids aren't any better. Won't work and layed up on drugs. Nobody should expect others to value them if they don't value themselves. both are problems because its a cycle. People dont live in tunnels with JUST family or JUST parents, they experience and become influenced by the WORLD as they experience it. A world that treat them or shows them they are not valued can eventually condition their mind to believe they have no value and for them to play that out in their life. Likewise those who play out because they dont feel they have value, continue to be treated as if they have none. it is not either/or, but both. Both are problems that decent people need to address. They've already tried to change these types of people and it doesn't work. People are tired of the focus being on people who won't help themselves instead of trying to further the education of someone who is striving. It's dumbing down Americans. when and how did they try to change these 'types of people'? |
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Edited by
chairman_z
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Sat 07/21/18 05:15 PM
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Got to love it when the left brings up slave labour and child labour as they buying their products at walmart or wherever one shops for discount stuff.
Child labour while horrible to us in the west is a necessary thing for families to survive in those countries. Child labour is better than the alternative of them starving to death, begging on the street or the unthinkable being used for prostitution ( makes my stomach turn when I hear this) Child labour guarantees they have some money to feed their family and the wages they earn more than makes up for their poverty and some of them actually saves and moves up and even a few caught the entrepreneur bug like Li Ka-shing had to work in a factory after his father died when he was 15 years old. Or Zhou Qunfei started off as a migrant worker ( you know paid like crap) but worked her way up caught the entrepreneur bug and today is one of the richest women in China If one child is saved from a life of begging , prostitution or starving to death, Im all for it. Remember the poor people as you're walking through Walmart sipping your frappuccino |
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In ATL, they have a special task force trying to get kids not to join gangs. I watched an interview of the guy over it. He said parents don't even know their kids have quit school. He said it's ridiculous. They made a movie based on a true story of a guy who tried to change underage gang members who got locked up. At he end of the movie it reported what happened to them when they got out. They ended up dead or in prison. It's who they are. Some people are born lazy, no conscience, and prone to violence.
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Edited by
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Some Countries have been suffering economically for decades. Also sickness and every unimaginable things some don't realize.
US is blessed in many ways. Things are not going to get better, man thinks he is in control but he really isnt. Totally. Men don't know how to all get along. World order is a movement but will not Rule. When the end comes all in the US and all over world will know it. |
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