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We have been told by several people here that there are contradictions in the Bible. And yet, not one of them have given any examples of this phenomenon. If you think there are contradictions in the Scriptures, prove it. Until then you are only spouting hot air. I have said many times that there are no contradictions in the Scriptures, only faulty translations. I have shown some of the many faults of the KJV. But these faults do not exist in the Ancient text. It is true that we do not have the original NT scrolls. So we must work with what we have. The oldest and most complete Ancient Koine Greek manuscripts are... Codex Vaticanus (a & b) Codex Alexandrinus Codex Sinaiticus These are used to correct every English version. Every one. All other Ancient Greek manuscripts are incomplete. Most of the manuscripts of the NT are Modern Greek. Most have been copied around 1500 AD. There are over 15,000 Modern Greek manuscripts. Most of our English versions are based on these manuscripts. In about 1000 years the Greek language had a chance to mature and pick up many of the same bad habits that the Latin languages have. In Ancient Koine Greek, there is usually one definition for each word. Rarely two. In Modern Greek, there might be several definitions for each word. It is because of this that so many interpret the Scriptures much like a Smorgasborg. In this way, we can get the Bible to say pretty much whatever we like. No wonder it can seem confusing to so many. So when asked which is the right Bible, I will post the Ancient Greek text every time. There are only two English versions that I would consider to be accurate. Youngs Literal Translation and the Concordant Literal Version. All else are based on Modern Greek texts. All, that is, except the KJV. Although it says it was based on Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, it is strangely similar to Tyndale's Bible of 1535. Over 80% of the KJV matches the Tyndale Bible exactly. Coincidence? I think not. If you still think there are contradictions in the Bible, please post them here. And try not to just copy and paste them from another website. And let's try to limit them to 5 each post. Give me a chance to catch up. |
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If you still think there are contradictions in the Bible, please post them here. A lot of it certainly contradicts common sense. |
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The word of God according to man...  makes ya kind of wonder..don't it?.. .. maybe it's just me
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Not a contradiction... but.. the 10 commandments....is one Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.” How many mere morals failed on this one alone... billions. You are not supposed to check out the ladies in your neighborhood?.. They look.. what are we supposed to not look back?.. tough to do. |
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for me, not wanting to go into specific instances and bicker
over them...the treatment of sinners is the one that strikes a chord with me... old test = sinners, put them outside of the city gates, have nothing to do with them, an eye for an eye justice and they are an abomination stone them to death... new test = Jesus speaks of forgiveness of sinners and to hate the sin itself but maintain love for the sinner as his sin is no greater than your own..."no one is left to cast the first stone woman...neither then will I..you are forgiven, go and sin no more" i'm just one person and it's only my opinion... |
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if god is so omnipotent and omniscient, why was he not able that his original words could be kept as they are forever? and why could he not think about the evolution of languages and arrange things in such a way that the original wording would still be accessible today?
there is not even a need for contradictions...just only the section "Job's trial" clearly proves (no matter whatever wording is used) that there can't be a god... |
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There are no contradictions in The Word of God.
His Word is preserved . |
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There is a contradiction about whether or not to drink alcohol. In one part it says drink is for the weary at heart. Then another man was struck dead because he didn't repent after drinking alcohol.
Thou shalt not commit adultery but all those guys have concubines. |
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No contradictions whatsoever, only misunderstood context .
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How is a marry man with concubines on the side, misunderstood context? It's a contradiction. That why I don't believe it's God's word. It's whatever a man wanted it to be at the time. When he wanted to cheat, it's fine. When he saw his wife look at another man, adultery was a sin. You can tell it's not God's thinking, it's man's thinking.
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There are two topics to avoid discussing when in someone else's house: Religion and Politics.
But then, we're not in a house. We're on a dating site.   
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No contradictions whatsoever, only misunderstood context . |
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How is a marry man with concubines on the side, misunderstood context? It's a contradiction. That why I don't believe it's God's word. It's whatever a man wanted it to be at the time. When he wanted to cheat, it's fine. When he saw his wife look at another man, adultery was a sin. You can tell it's not God's thinking, it's man's thinking. |
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How is a marry man with concubines on the side, misunderstood context? It's a contradiction. That why I don't believe it's God's word. It's whatever a man wanted it to be at the time. When he wanted to cheat, it's fine. When he saw his wife look at another man, adultery was a sin. You can tell it's not God's thinking, it's man's thinking. I will definitely address this post later when I have time. I will bring some clarity to some of the misconceptions regarding this topic. At this present time my morning is filled. |
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Strong's H6370 piylegesh pee-leh'-ghesh or pilegesh {pee-leh'-ghesh}; of uncertain derivation; a concubine; also (masculine) a paramour. Evidently, not all concubines were female. |
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I have said many times that there are no contradictions in the Scriptures, only faulty translations. I'm not sure if there are contradictions in the scriptures within the scripture. I don't think that is what people mean when they say religion (the Bible) contradicts itself? I think it has more to do with how the practice of religions contradict the scriptures. Many of devout faith will spout off scripture and say or act just the opposite. Like a cop that will arrest you for speeding yet will cruise around at 20 mph over the speed limit. How many times have you seen a cop breaking the speed limit without using their emergency lights and siren? I've met people of devout faith that follow their religion exactly. They don't use scripture as a weapon. Their lives are lead in a way that practices what they preach. Those people are getting harder and harder to find as time passes. Spend some time in the parking lot before church and watch the people in their cars. Pay attention to them on a Wednesday or Friday night. The contradictions are mind boggling. Some churches are populated by 'broken' people. Sunday is the day of the week they try to rectify their actions from the prior six days. They are a contradiction to their own faith. Then you have the contradictions of scripture to sound reasoning. The scripture that contradicts normal life experiences. Love thy neighbor but protest a funeral and that kind of thing. Hatred and intolerance run rampant in religious believers. You can have free will as long as you believe as they tell you or you will be punished. A contradiction. Scripture is like our laws. If one were to follow scripture or our laws exactly as written life would be very different than it is. Law abiding citizens are not complete law abiding in every letter (intent) of the law. Devout religious faith is not complete devout religious faith in every letter (intent) of the scriptures. There are contradictions between the letter and the practice. I have met people that claim they are "God's Warriors". These people are wonderful if you believe what they believe but hateful and spiting to "the heathens". They do not love their fellow man. A contradiction to the principals of the teachings of Christ. Many people see these contradictions of actions as invalidating religion. It becomes "Do as I say, not as I do" and people value sound reasoning. Very few devout believers lead by example. Contradictions are in the practical application. |
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How is a marry man with concubines on the side, misunderstood context? It's a contradiction. That why I don't believe it's God's word. It's whatever a man wanted it to be at the time. When he wanted to cheat, it's fine. When he saw his wife look at another man, adultery was a sin. You can tell it's not God's thinking, it's man's thinking. Can you please explain what contradictions exist within Scripture? Ones behaviour recorded in Scripture isn't a contradiction within Scripture. |
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I have said many times that there are no contradictions in the Scriptures, only faulty translations. I'm not sure if there are contradictions in the scriptures within the scripture. I don't think that is what people mean when they say religion (the Bible) contradicts itself? I think it has more to do with how the practice of religions contradict the scriptures. Many of devout faith will spout off scripture and say or act just the opposite. Like a cop that will arrest you for speeding yet will cruise around at 20 mph over the speed limit. How many times have you seen a cop breaking the speed limit without using their emergency lights and siren? I've met people of devout faith that follow their religion exactly. They don't use scripture as a weapon. Their lives are lead in a way that practices what they preach. Those people are getting harder and harder to find as time passes. Spend some time in the parking lot before church and watch the people in their cars. Pay attention to them on a Wednesday or Friday night. The contradictions are mind boggling. Some churches are populated by 'broken' people. Sunday is the day of the week they try to rectify their actions from the prior six days. They are a contradiction to their own faith. Then you have the contradictions of scripture to sound reasoning. The scripture that contradicts normal life experiences. Love thy neighbor but protest a funeral and that kind of thing. Hatred and intolerance run rampant in religious believers. You can have free will as long as you believe as they tell you or you will be punished. A contradiction. Scripture is like our laws. If one were to follow scripture or our laws exactly as written life would be very different than it is. Law abiding citizens are not complete law abiding in every letter (intent) of the law. Devout religious faith is not complete devout religious faith in every letter (intent) of the scriptures. There are contradictions between the letter and the practice. I have met people that claim they are "God's Warriors". These people are wonderful if you believe what they believe but hateful and spiting to "the heathens". They do not love their fellow man. A contradiction to the principals of the teachings of Christ. Many people see these contradictions of actions as invalidating religion. It becomes "Do as I say, not as I do" and people value sound reasoning. Very few devout believers lead by example. Contradictions are in the practical application. I understand what you are saying Tom and with that peoples behaviours may go against Scripture , but the Scriptures do not contradict against Scripture. |
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Good points from Tom4Uhere, as usual.
Something I want to point out, is that a fair amount of the turbulence and ire of such arguments, is due to the fact that people are fiercely talking about completely different things, without realizing it. Our thread hosts opening post itself shows this. He admits that there are seeming contradictions in various TEXTS, while insisting that they are invalid as complaints against his FAITH. His logic is correct, as far as he goes with it. From within ANY faith, the challenge to followers and believers is not to explain to non-believers, why the texts don't make sense to those non-believers. It is to find guidance within their texts which they can follow consistently themselves. The point of view of both non-believers who are not hostile to the religion, and of believers who approach the texts from a purely scholarly, historical side, can lead to understanding of why the texts DO say what they do, the way that they do, in the context of the times they were written down BY PEOPLE. There are differences as well, amongst the people who are pointing out textual inconsistencies, as to why they are doing so. In the case of pure historians, for example, the goal isn't to make complaints against the writings, or against the authors or scribes of the various texts, it is instead to UNDERSTAND those people more thoroughly. Their investigation doesn't care whether the texts show contradictions as such, rather they seek to know how the times they were written in, are more accurately revealed by the seeming contradictions. |
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Ones behaviour recorded in Scripture isn't a contradiction within Scripture. Sure it is. Your statement is a contradiction. Words are used to construct sentences to convey meaning or content. Often the words written do not convey the same meaning for everyone that reads the sentence. Commonality in reasonable understanding provides validity. |
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