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Topic: Democrats Aren't All Bad (Really!)
msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/18 09:12 AM


wow. so sad. okay.

I wont hold my breath on anyone actually KNOWING any thing about the actual DNC platform chiming in on which bits are harmful.



I know what their platform is even though when confronted, democrats won't be specific. For example ... Democrats want unlimited abortion policy. Yes or no?
Democrats unanimously voted against tax cuts. Yes or no.
Democrats don't want to build a wall, leaving our border unprotected in some spots. Yes or no?
Democrats want to abolish Ice. Yes or no?
Democrats have yet to push back against anti free speech on our college campus's. Yes or no?
I find these things harmful. If I mid-stated anything please correct. But this is what I see dem. polititions saying.



unlimited abortions? It depends on what you call 'unlimited' . they are for SAFE access to SAFE abortions (the representatives who vote, not the democrats who vote for them who obviously dont all feel the same) and not every type of abortion is so safe, especially later term.


Unanimous against tax cuts? No. Tax cut votes are never JUST tax cut votes they have alot of 'give mes' thrown in to try to appease both sides. They (and republicans) vote against tax bills because they wont compromise on the additional 'give mes' in the bill.


No wall? correct. Just like social programs Republicans dont want, they both frame it as wasteful spending.


Democrats want to abolish ICE? No. Nowhere in the DNC platform is there mention of it, although you can find SOME democrats (and probably SOME republicans) who express that opinion.

Democrats dont push back against anti free speech? No. They dont push back against students having a say in their own environment when they are expected at some point to be footing the bills for it.

with the exception of abortion, I find it very helpful not to be blackmailed by taxes into other harmful compromises. I find it very helpful to counter a constant attack on needed social programs that are considered 'wasteful' by combating even more waste. I find it very helpful to allow college students participation in the condition of their campus and the speakers they collectively help pay to bring in.

I split only somewhat on the issue of abortion, I feel it is wrong, but I feel also that more emphasis should be placed on the CONDITIONS that make abortion the answer for many women, which the DNC is also supportive of.

Workin4it's photo
Mon 08/13/18 09:28 AM



wow. so sad. okay.

I wont hold my breath on anyone actually KNOWING any thing about the actual DNC platform chiming in on which bits are harmful.



I know what their platform is even though when confronted, democrats won't be specific. For example ... Democrats want unlimited abortion policy. Yes or no?
Democrats unanimously voted against tax cuts. Yes or no.
Democrats don't want to build a wall, leaving our border unprotected in some spots. Yes or no?
Democrats want to abolish Ice. Yes or no?
Democrats have yet to push back against anti free speech on our college campus's. Yes or no?
I find these things harmful. If I mid-stated anything please correct. But this is what I see dem. polititions saying.



unlimited abortions? It depends on what you call 'unlimited' . they are for SAFE access to SAFE abortions (the representatives who vote, not the democrats who vote for them who obviously dont all feel the same) and not every type of abortion is so safe, especially later term.


Unanimous against tax cuts? No. Tax cut votes are never JUST tax cut votes they have alot of 'give mes' thrown in to try to appease both sides. They (and republicans) vote against tax bills because they wont compromise on the additional 'give mes' in the bill.


No wall? correct. Just like social programs Republicans dont want, they both frame it as wasteful spending.


Democrats want to abolish ICE? No. Nowhere in the DNC platform is there mention of it, although you can find SOME democrats (and probably SOME republicans) who express that opinion.

Democrats dont push back against anti free speech? No. They dont push back against students having a say in their own environment when they are expected at some point to be footing the bills for it.

with the exception of abortion, I find it very helpful not to be blackmailed by taxes into other harmful compromises. I find it very helpful to counter a constant attack on needed social programs that are considered 'wasteful' by combating even more waste. I find it very helpful to allow college students participation in the condition of their campus and the speakers they collectively help pay to bring in.

I split only somewhat on the issue of abortion, I feel it is wrong, but I feel also that more emphasis should be placed on the CONDITIONS that make abortion the answer for many women, which the DNC is also supportive of.

I don't care what your beliefs are personally I'm talking the political agenda. Didn't Elizabeth. Warren say she wants to abolish ice. And she a front runner for dem. candidate for POTUS? She didn't vote for the tax cut either. No matter how you spin it this is what voters will see.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/18 12:03 PM




wow. so sad. okay.

I wont hold my breath on anyone actually KNOWING any thing about the actual DNC platform chiming in on which bits are harmful.



I know what their platform is even though when confronted, democrats won't be specific. For example ... Democrats want unlimited abortion policy. Yes or no?
Democrats unanimously voted against tax cuts. Yes or no.
Democrats don't want to build a wall, leaving our border unprotected in some spots. Yes or no?
Democrats want to abolish Ice. Yes or no?
Democrats have yet to push back against anti free speech on our college campus's. Yes or no?
I find these things harmful. If I mid-stated anything please correct. But this is what I see dem. polititions saying.



unlimited abortions? It depends on what you call 'unlimited' . they are for SAFE access to SAFE abortions (the representatives who vote, not the democrats who vote for them who obviously dont all feel the same) and not every type of abortion is so safe, especially later term.


Unanimous against tax cuts? No. Tax cut votes are never JUST tax cut votes they have alot of 'give mes' thrown in to try to appease both sides. They (and republicans) vote against tax bills because they wont compromise on the additional 'give mes' in the bill.


No wall? correct. Just like social programs Republicans dont want, they both frame it as wasteful spending.


Democrats want to abolish ICE? No. Nowhere in the DNC platform is there mention of it, although you can find SOME democrats (and probably SOME republicans) who express that opinion.

Democrats dont push back against anti free speech? No. They dont push back against students having a say in their own environment when they are expected at some point to be footing the bills for it.

with the exception of abortion, I find it very helpful not to be blackmailed by taxes into other harmful compromises. I find it very helpful to counter a constant attack on needed social programs that are considered 'wasteful' by combating even more waste. I find it very helpful to allow college students participation in the condition of their campus and the speakers they collectively help pay to bring in.

I split only somewhat on the issue of abortion, I feel it is wrong, but I feel also that more emphasis should be placed on the CONDITIONS that make abortion the answer for many women, which the DNC is also supportive of.

I don't care what your beliefs are personally I'm talking the political agenda. Didn't Elizabeth. Warren say she wants to abolish ice. And she a front runner for dem. candidate for POTUS? She didn't vote for the tax cut either. No matter how you spin it this is what voters will see.


I was referring to the dnc platform. not any one democrat in any position and how they individually feel.

And it is unfortunate that many voters who dont understand congressional voting will see it that way.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 08/13/18 12:48 PM
This topic has become entertaining.



Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 08/13/18 01:42 PM
The platform of the Democratic party is not in the Best interest for the US.


msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/18 03:17 PM
Raising wages, restoring economic security, fighting against inequality, uniting americans, protecting voting rights, supporting clean energy, providing quality affordable education and healthcare, supporting troops and veterans, ...

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform


all sound VERY GOOD for the country IMHO

Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 08/13/18 03:54 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Mon 08/13/18 03:58 PM
Yes, raising debt level they are good for! IMO


msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/18 04:00 PM

Yes, raising debt level they are good for! IMO




which party has NOT raised the debt level?

Lpdon's photo
Tue 08/14/18 01:58 AM

My blog post for 08/05/18

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Democrats Aren't All Bad (Really!)



Democrats aren't all bad. Granted, that should go without saying, but some Republicans have trouble believing it.

It is a mistake for Republicans to pretend that they are holier-than or more-righteous-than Democrats because the former aren't.

No, one doesn't have to be a liberal or a Democrat to offer a defense of Democrats. This blogger has never been a Democrat and has never wanted a Democrat to occupy the Oval Office. Yet, this blogger will defend Democrats when they deserve defending.

Sure, Democrats are mistaken about plenty of things even when they won't admit to being mistaken.

Still, Democrats are just as human as Republicans, and Republicans are just as fallible as Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans alike embrace beliefs that are emotionally pleasing even if those beliefs are factually false.

Yes, one can find reason and sanity among Democrats. However, the reasonable and sane Democrats aren't often mentioned in national news because media members don't consider such Democrats to be newsworthy.

It is the crazy Democrats who get the most exposure by the media because controversy sells newspapers.

If America's liberal media are the publishing arm of the Democratic Party, then it is because America's liberal media are focused on their primary objective, which is to earn a profit.

Greater profit is earned from the crazy than from the sane.

Yes, the crazies are running the Democratic Party.

Sure, the same can be said about the Republican Party. After all, look who is the POTUS.

By the way, if Republicans and Conservatives believe that Democrats are bad now, then the former should consider the history depicted in the following image:



The modern-day Democratic Party is nothing like the Democratic Party that the Republican Party was formed to oppose.

Then again, the modern-day Republican Party isn't the party of Lincoln, either.

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Posted @ The Moderate Voice

By the way . . .






I was supporting a Democrat who was running in our last Presidential Race until Trump entered the race. Jim Webb, former US Senator and a highly decorated war Hero with the Navy Cross and a ton of other awards.

Democrats need to start looking into him as a candidate!

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/14/18 08:51 AM
I have voted for republicans in the past in non potus races. I just havent seen the potus selections as the best man in my lifetime yet. I dont rule out it ever happening however.

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 08/14/18 09:11 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Tue 08/14/18 09:13 AM
Raising wages,

Being done under the Trump presidency

restoring economic security,

Being done under the Trump presidency

fighting against inequality,

What kind of inequality?


uniting americans,

Socialist Americans perhaps


protecting voting rights,

I suppose that dead voters have rights, too


supporting clean energy,

Republicans do that, too

providing quality affordable education and healthcare,

Done at the state level

supporting troops and veterans, ...

Republicans do that, too

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Tue 08/14/18 09:14 AM

Hum? I keep reading and hearing all this crap about media bias/fake news and all this other crap. As far as the "public" Trump goes, he is always opening his mouth and inserting his foot. He's constantly making a fool of himself on the world stage.

Most of the time he does it right out in front so everyone can see it. When you are in the public eye like Trump is, and you are constantly "tweeting" and saying things for millions of people to read every day, the media picks up on it and reports it.

How could that bias when they are reporting exactly what he said on "twitter" or right in front of a room full of reporters with cameras running How can all be faults/fake news when most of it is right out of his own mouth? How could it be lies when he either "tweeted" it or said something in front of a camera?

I'm neither a Dem or Rep. I'm somewhere in the middle. But, I know a dirty man when I see one. And this guy has proved it out of his own mouth. To me, simply because of the "persona" he puts forward for the world to see, that in its self is enough to turn me off with him.

When you add on what comes out of his mouth for everyone to read and hear, that "is" enough for me. What a man speaks can either give life or death. I hear a lot of death coming out of this man's mouth. A lot of lying to try to cover up other lies. A lot of back peddling and deflecting.

If it wasn't for all this dirt that he shovels onto himself, I might be OK with him. If he held the office of president with dignity and pride, I might think a little different. But he doesn't. He gets on the world stage and makes a mockery of it with what comes out of his mouth.

One last thing. Trump is a rich man's president. He's already proven that too. Tariff this, tariff that. gas and food prices climbing. Wages are stagnant. A rich man's president that could care less about you or me.

It has nothing to do with Dem or Rep. It's the "man" and what he stands for. He certainly doesn't stand for you or me. If you believe he does, you will believe anything.

You should actually read the news to know what is going on. trump did a lot of good things, it is the dem hits him even if he does anything. fact Obama gave a whole pile of money back to Iran, he kept the economy down. fact Iran day after said death to Israel and death to united states, oboma never did anything. Oh yeah and frist time Russia has a base now in syrria thanks to oboma. Also iran has a base in syrria now too, bombing the heck out of isreal. and when isreal comes back people people are against it.
Well I know oboma was the worst president of the united states, he was useless.

Rep. Maxine Waters claimed the favor of the Almighty during a speech at a Capitol Hill "Keep Families Together" rally on Saturday. She said cabinet members and highly visible Trump enablers should expect harassment at restaurants, gas stations, shopping places, and even their homes until they change their immigration policy. Several have already been confronted at public places.

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Tue 08/14/18 09:18 AM
Rep. Maxine Waters claimed the favor of the Almighty during a speech at a Capitol Hill "Keep Families Together" rally on Saturday. She said cabinet members and highly visible Trump enablers should expect harassment at restaurants, gas stations, shopping places, and even their homes until they change their immigration policy. Several have already been confronted at public places.

if this is how the rep is they should never get in power. also who was in power for 20 years, they had the time to change things, they never did.

now trump been in power, the dem tried everything in the book at him.

I hope the dem never get in ever again, until they start caring for the people, right now they hate them.

hilary called the people we all know

and rest never stops.


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