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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. |
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Edited for off-topic. Kindly refrain from browbeating
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Tom4Uhere
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publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". Trump made the admission What part is hard to understand? I'm not saying Clinton should be made president, I'm saying the whole election was illegal and should be redone...NOW and Trump should go to jail. I'm curious how long we citizens have to endure this stuff from the people we elect to represent us? Where the hell do we draw the line? |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!!  Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies biggest sack of 'head up a load of shite' that has ever been posted online evah! 
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A more believable reason Mueller is completing the investigation, to me, would be that he's building a case for impeachment, but that would take congress agreeing to impeach him, and that is unlikely. November is coming. I've had this feeling for a while. Investigations like this take a lot of time anyway. But come November, I think it's possible that once the Dems are voted in, he will have enough Dem support to go after him for impeachment. I think Mueller knows better than to really go after Trump right now. I think it's possible he knows more right now than he is willing to let out to the public. I remember seeing a guy once try to throw sand in another man's face. Just as he let go of his hand full of sand, the wind picked up and blew the sand back into his face. He blinded himself. Trump paid for dirt on Clinton. It's quite possible that dirt, except more of it, is coming back on him. |
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opposition research is fine if its not DIRECTLY from a foreign national as opposed to a RESEARCH agency based in the USA. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 Let's not forget the p***gate dossier originated from Christopher Steele, an MI6 agent. |
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opposition research is fine if its not DIRECTLY from a foreign national as opposed to a RESEARCH agency based in the USA. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 Let's not forget the p***gate dossier originated from Christopher Steele, an MI6 agent. the difference between what happened at the 'trump tower' meeting,and the 'steele dossier' is that the steele dossier was handed over to AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES,by the BRITISH INTELLIGENCE AGENCY,about what they had discovered in their investigation into trump and his suspicious business deals with Russian oligarchs,and the OFFICIAL investigation by OUR GOVERNMENT INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES proceeded from there...,it wasn't a clandestine meeting between somebody who WASNT part of any government intelligence agency running for an elected office,and an agent of a foreign government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier |
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After MONTHS of Donald Trump publically swearing that "there was no collusion",both in person,and in his twitter rants,Trump has changed his denials and publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Trump made the admission in a tweet on Sunday where he wrote that the purpose of the meeting between the Russians and his son,Don Jr,,his son in law,Jared Cushner,who is one of his senior advisors,and his then campaign chairmen Paul Manafort was "to get dirt on a political opponent",not "to talk about Russian adoptions",like the press release that Trump Sr. dictated for his son to give to the media from aboard air force one originally claimed. Trump also claims that even though there WAS collusion,it is not against the law,even though Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". "Hard to see how there is not a serious case here of solicitation. Trump Jr. appears to have knowledge of the foreign source and is asking to see it," Rick Hasen, a campaign finance law expert, wrote. "Such information can be considered a 'thing of value' for purposes of the campaign finance law." Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to see the Mueller investigation into russian meddling in our elections shut down. On Wednesday, he tweeted that Attorney General Jeff Sessions — who recused himself last year from all matters related to the Justice Department investigation — should "stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further." It's unclear whether Trump's latest admission will affect Mueller's probe in any way. But, as NPR's Brian Naylor reports, if Mueller could prove Trump was aware of the meeting in advance, "or cast doubt on denials by Trump and Trump Jr., it would be a dramatic addition to Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential race and collusion with them by the Trump campaign." You have to wonder,though,since the main purpose of the Mueller investigation is to determine whether or not the Russians interfered in our elections,how they did it,and if there were any americans involved in it,why is trump so desperate and publically determined to try to get the investigation shut down if he is indeed innocent,like he keeps claiming that he is? It seems like the desperation of his constant public denials in his tweets,and press statements,his determination to shut down Mueller's investigation at all costs,and his displeasure with attorney general Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the case and putting deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in charge of it is a public admission of his apparent guilt. if shooting someone in central park won't cause his followers to bat an eye, and that was HIS assessment of them, which may be on the short list of things he is honest about ,,, what's a little back office negotiations with Russia gonna mean? nada. Many of those who are supporting him are dogged determined to support him NO MATTER WHAT. Politics, its the WHO, and not the WHAT. that is an ironically HILARIOUS thing for someone to claim,considering that trump has lied more in his FIRST MONTH in office than Obama did in 8 years,or any democrat EVER has!! Obama - 1500+ verified lies Trump - 0 verified lies biggest sack of 'head up a load of shite' that has ever been posted online evah! |
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publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". Trump made the admission What part is hard to understand? I'm not saying Clinton should be made president, I'm saying the whole election was illegal and should be redone...NOW and Trump should go to jail. I'm curious how long we citizens have to endure this stuff from the people we elect to represent us? Where the hell do we draw the line? |
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shovelheaddave
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publically admitted that there WAS collusion between his presidential election campaign and the Russian government during the June 2016 meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Federal campaign finance law clearly states "it is illegal for a foreign national to "directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value to a campaign.",and it is ALSO illegal "to accept help from a foreign government,or a foreign national to influenece an election". Trump made the admission What part is hard to understand? I'm not saying Clinton should be made president, I'm saying the whole election was illegal and should be redone...NOW and Trump should go to jail. I'm curious how long we citizens have to endure this stuff from the people we elect to represent us? Where the hell do we draw the line? if you are still asking those questions at this point,i don't believe that you really want to know the answer,so trying to explain it to you would be an exercise of futility,and I am not going to waste any of my time playing childish games that people use when they cant rationally defend their opinions. all I can do is tell you that google is your friend,and you should learn how to do a little bit of research if you want anyone to consider your opinions are valid,because when you ask questions like THOSE,then all you are doing is inviting ridicule to both YOU,and your opinions! |
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